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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Yuzu as a rootstock
« on: January 27, 2024, 04:22:17 PM »
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Please keep in mind that fast growing induced by a lot fertilizer limits the cold hardiness of citrus plants and plants in general.

There is probably some truth to that, but my understanding is that the danger is that the tree puts out new growth too late in the season and it doesn't have the chance to properly harden off before the cold comes. That has certainly been my experience with Keraji. With Yuzu however even late growth spurts are able to make it through the cold just fine. I find Yuzu to be a bit strange like that for me.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Switching from juvenile to adult
« on: January 27, 2024, 02:56:41 AM »
Yeah, I thought that too when I read their method. I went about it a little bit different than them. Since I had read so much about the associations between node count and flowering, I figured I should try to get the plant to grow as tall as possible as quickly as possible. At the same time I had read that yuzu can sometimes flower on the lower branches at the beginning. Therefore, I didn't cut the side branches off but instead trained them to the horizontal like is done in intensive apple orchards in order to maintain the apical dominance of the central leader. In my mind that had the extra advantage that the lower branches would contribute with their photosynthesis to the total growth of the tree. The growth was truly impressive in that often a new growth spurt began before the old one had completely hardened off. I also ask myself if the use of horn meal as a nitrogen source also played a role in that it provided a gradual slow release of nutrients. I am always careful with horn meal though after having given the plants ammonia poisoning with it. That wasn't pretty.
The tree ended up bending over on its own and I believe it was due to two factors. For one it had simply gotten so tall it hit the ceiling of my apartment. That caused it to bend over. Then, when I took it outside the new growth was so green that it was able to support it's own weight and ended up bending over because my plant stake wasn't able to reach up to the very top of the plant.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Switching from juvenile to adult
« on: January 26, 2024, 04:24:18 PM »
Did your yuzu flower yet? My seed grown yuzu flowered last spring at six years after sowing. It basically maxed out it's height in three seasons, branched out at the top in the following two (it looked like a ridiculous broom for a time) and finally flowered at the top from those side branches in the last season. From six flowers, two yielded mature fruits. I am excited to see how many flower buds it produces this year.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Yuzu as a rootstock
« on: January 26, 2024, 03:45:03 PM »
A yuzu tree grown from seed has proven to be reliably hardy for me unprotected on a roof terrace in an urban setting. I have found that the decisive factors for me for winter hardiness are next to the genetic predisposition of the plant the size of the stem and the pot size. The pot has to deep enough to minimize the perched water table and prevent it from completely freezing through when the Arctic temperatures hit. Aside from its hardiness, yuzu is attractive to me for be very fast growing when given the right conditions, namely warm days and nights and plenty of moisture and fertilizer. My loft apartment provides plenty of heat in the summer and I was able to get a meter and a half of growth on a tree in one summer. That was impressive. These factors make me consider using it as a rootstock for getting plants up to size before I try to overwinter them on the balcony. I recall reading that the Japanese used yuzu for a time as a rootstock for satsumas and it pops up as a rootstock every now and then in scientific papers but perhaps someone on this forum has experience with it as a rootstock already and can report of their findings. I presume it would be a good match for plants which are considered to be related to yuzu, like sudachi or kabosu. I plant to graft my yuzu on it this season if the seedlings that I germinated last month grow fast enough.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: F2 citrange winter hardiness trial
« on: December 13, 2023, 07:47:30 AM »
It's just a guess, but my first association would be "horticultural research station". (Although I live in Germany, I am originally from the USA.)

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Hello everyone,
I am looking for cuttings of seedless Kishu mandarine (citrus kinokuni mukakukishu). I live in Germany so I am looking for a source in Europe. I have found it at a nursery in France, but it tends to be perpetually sold out. I am willing to buy or trade for the cuttings. Regarding the size of the cuttings, I am pretty flexible.
Thanks in advance!

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« on: November 09, 2023, 04:11:47 PM »
Thanks for the reply.
I didn't know that only two had flowered at this point. That isn't many. That is quite a long juvenile period that they have.
Those sound like some good crosses that you made, thanks for sharing!

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« on: November 09, 2023, 10:02:45 AM »
How does the cold hardiness of your selection 5starxkeraji compare to that of keraji?
What are your plans for increasing the size of the fruits?
Are there any siblings from the original cross that could be used as breeding partners?
5starXkeraji really fascinates me.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Giardini Hanbury Italy
« on: January 30, 2020, 07:30:00 AM »
And what a great time of year to visit the Botanical Garden of Hanbury!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Giardini Hanbury Italy
« on: January 30, 2020, 07:28:17 AM »
All I have found is the following plant list: http://www.giardinihanbury.com/giardino/hortus-mortolensis
That's probably the same as what you found. That's a fascinating find you have there.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Giardini Hanbury Italy
« on: January 30, 2020, 07:09:19 AM »
Since it is the Botanical Garden of the University of Genoa I would assume that there has to be a database somewhere. I'll see what I can find.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« on: January 24, 2020, 12:59:46 AM »
Aha, Thanks.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: N1triVoss
« on: January 23, 2020, 08:22:05 AM »
Recently I received seeds of N1tri from Ilya. Here are some seedlings
N1tri F2 by michaelbasso, on Flickr
N1tri F2 c by michaelbasso, on FlickrN1tri F2 b by michaelbasso, on Flickr

leaves are different from palnt to plant, mostly monofoliate but some are more or less trifoliate. Some are bi or trilobed like e.g. Passiflora leaves.
Do you know the pollen source or were they open pollinated?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« on: January 23, 2020, 08:14:43 AM »
and, has the fruit ripened yet?

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