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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 03, 2024, 06:30:03 PM »
An Hai blooms opening up







Dongkui blooms





Pollen from male blooms before the rains





Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 03, 2024, 06:08:05 PM »
Hey pinkturtle, nice blooms on your tree. I’m surprised it bloomed with so little leaves on the tree. I see lots of new vegetative growth as well so hopefully it will grow out a lot this year.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 30, 2024, 10:24:29 PM »
I determined the sex of my seedling Yangmei trees by sending leaf samples to Marta Matvienko for testing. I’m not sure if she is still doing it and there is a minimum number of samples required. I forgot if it was 5 or 10. Seedling plants may or may not produce good quality fruit and commercial orchards use grafted trees to ensure quality of fruit and good production.

Simon

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I have a manualmjuicer I want to sell if you want to buy one cheap.  I bought a motorized one and dont use the manualmone anymore.

Hey Brad, which unit did you end up getting and would you recommend it? I also have the manual press but I installed a motor on it. I sometimes juice 5-10 gallons at a time and manually pressing it is tedious. The manual press is great in an emergency situation where there is no power.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 30, 2024, 12:31:09 AM »
Thanks everyone! Nate, your Biqi is looking great. I foresee Yangmei fruits at a future fruit tasting. I hope Weee will have more Yangmei fruit for sale this year. I’m so addicted to Yangmei and can’t wait for the day when we can pick fruit off our own trees.

Someone should jump on Nate’s scions. It’s good for practicing your grafting skills and you can get a male/female from it.

Simon

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Anytime Nate, sugarcane juice is always a hit at the fruit tasting parties! Now I’m crazy a nice cold glass myself. I guess I’ll have to chop some canes soon and get the juicer out. Sugarcane juice is absolutely incredible, especially on a hot Sumner day after working on the yard.

Simon

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San Diego Yellow is my favorite for pressing. I’ve experimented with about 10 different varieties and the SD Yellow grows well, is very sweet and doesn’t fall apart when pressed like the softer purple and black varieties. The canes that have bulges aren’t ideal for pressing. Brad has a stripped cane that he says is super good but I have not tried that variety yet.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 24, 2024, 05:37:26 PM »
Here is an update of my Early hermaphrodite. I didn’t realize how beautiful the bright reddish pink blooms looked against the dark green foliage.









Some pictures of the new foliage. The lighter color of the new leaves looks reminiscent of a flower.




Here’s a more zoomed in picture of the female blooms/pistils on my Big Black Carbon.



When I saw the female pistils open on my Big Black Carbon, I immediately moved the pot next to my blooming hermaphrodite.


Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 18, 2024, 08:40:35 PM »
First female blooms to open is the Big Black Carbon grafted onto Cerifera rootstock. You can see the pinkish red stigmas at the base of the buds.



Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 18, 2024, 09:06:02 AM »
Kankan,

Grafting some of your rootstock shoots onto those other rootstocks is a good idea. You could end up with a male or you could get lucky and get a seedling that produces good quality fruit.

I don’t know what they use in the commercial orchards in China but I assume it’s just random seeds. From doing research on other fruit crops however, I know that the rootstocks can affect growth rate, production and quality of the fruit. This doesn’t mean that it does the same for Yangmei but there is the possibility.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 17, 2024, 10:29:44 PM »
I would let one branch of the rootstock grow out in the hopes it is a male.There is a good chance your Dongkui will eventually fruit without a male but that can be many years down the road so you can potentially lose many years of fruit production without a male.

When you let the rootstock grow, be very careful that it doesn’t take over the tree. The rootstock sprouts seem to grow vigorously at the expense of the grafted portion of the tree.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 16, 2024, 03:17:15 PM »
Thanks RevivalROOts,

I killed many Yangmei plants before I finally got it dialed in. How are your trees doing? I’m sure there’s other members with trees that are getting big now. Once you get them onto healthy rootstocks, they grow like weeds.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Store bought Mexican mango seedling
« on: January 13, 2024, 07:45:33 PM »
I’m assuming you mean the greenish to reddish Mexican mangos, if so, those are Monoembryonic and the fruit will likely be different than the original fruit that you ate. They still make great rootstock and the fruit can still be similar to the parent because the farms typically grow the same varieties next to each other so the pollinating parent is probably the same variety so it would be what is termed “selfed” or pollinated by itself. Even if it was selfed, there will be a rearrangement of the genes so if the genetics was diverse, it will likely be different from the parent but if the genetics of the parents is not diverse, the fruit could be somewhat similar to the parent fruit.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 12, 2024, 08:50:41 PM »
An Hai buds



White Honey



Big Black Carbon from Bills order



Wandao


Dongkui


Early Hard Hermaphrodite male blooms opening up






Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 06, 2024, 03:43:52 PM »
I officially have tons of male blooms and pollen from my hermaphrodite tree. I shook the branches and can see a ton of pollen flying off the plant. My females a a bit behind but with my hermaphrodite plant being so big, there are a bunch of branches with buds that are in much earlier stages of maturity that should sync up with my female varieties.





Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 06, 2024, 02:47:57 PM »
Hey Seng, that’s great info. From the previous group buys, the price goes down significantly if you purchase more trees. For bare root trees, I would recommend reading the through the previous group buy threads for information on how best to revive the trees and what to watch out for in regards to the potential of root knot nematodes.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 05, 2024, 10:53:38 PM »
Nick C and K-Rimes, looking good on those seedlings! Once the seedlings get to about 5-6 inches tall, they start to grow very fast.

I have not tried ordering from chinaglobalmall but if they’re legit, it’s a bit of a hassle to get the permits and schedule the USDA inspections. Also, the bare root trees can be difficult to revive. Bill would probably be the most knowledgeable about legally importing trees from China and the price goes down when you order more trees.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 03, 2024, 12:25:48 AM »
Welcome to the forum junglerv. Nate from wildlandplants.com should have some male scions soon. Perhaps he will have some female scions as well so you should inquire.

Check out his website at  https://www.wildlandsplants.com/

This forum occasionally has group buys to bring over trees from China. These trees are bare root, required by law, and are difficult to establish but is a much safer route than the illegally imported trees that come with soil and roots. There is a good chance that the plants with soil and roots are harboring nasty insects/ pests/ organisms that could potentially be devastating to your garden so please don’t consider these trees. If these trees are brought over, you could get a visit from the authorities.

Best thing to do is to purchase trees that are grafted onto rootstocks grown in the USA. These trees will be more expensive but the survival rate will be an order of magnitude higher than the legally imported bare root trees. I know people that purchased 20-30 of the bare root trees and every one of them died.

I know there are people that started grafting Yangmei onto USA grown rootstocks so hopefully the trees will show up for sale in the near future. For now, it would be a good idea to plant some rootstocks such as M Rubra, Cerifera, Californica and Pennsylvanica.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 01, 2024, 09:15:55 AM »
Hey Seng, my grafted Dongkui bloomed last year but did not produce any male flowers, only female flowers. It is blooming again this year so I’ll check for male blooms once the buds open up. I probably will get fruit from some of my varieties but only because I have male blooms on my early hermaphrodite plant.


I believe Shane has a Biqi seedling that produced a few fruit (without a male plant/graft) after approximately 7-10 years, I don’t remember exactly but it’s a huge tree.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: December 31, 2023, 03:09:59 PM »
Hey Seng, those varieties will eventually produce some male pollen and you will get some fruit eventually but if you want fruit sooner and you want more fruit, it’s best to have a plant that produces pollen wether it’s a male or hermaphrodite plant.

Fang from the CRFG has a Dongkui from the very first group buy and his Dongkui did not produce fruit for many years. If I remember correctly, his tree did not start producing until he grafted a male onto it.

The grafted trees can start producing blooms when they are very small so you can be losing many years of production if you don’t have a dedicated pollen producer.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: December 29, 2023, 05:42:22 PM »
I also just found this bloom that looks very similar to my male Cerifera blooms. I’m guessing this is a male bloom because it definitely looks different than my female blooms from last year which had pistils.



Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: December 29, 2023, 04:46:52 PM »
Here’s an update on my early Hermaphrodite blooms. They are just starting to open up the blooms and the blooms are opening from the bottom to the top. It’s still early but it appears these first buds that opened are “male” because I don’t see any stigma/pistils. My other female varieties are also blooming heavily.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harvest this week in San Diego County....
« on: December 26, 2023, 08:35:34 PM »
HoneyHart also tends to have a slight yellowish tinge in the flesh color.

Selma is another variety that looks different because it can have a pinkish red tinge to the flesh color near the skin.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harvest this week in San Diego County....
« on: December 25, 2023, 08:30:02 PM »
Nice looking fruit, I’m guessing it’s not Dr White because the protuberances are a little too elongated but Cherimoya phenotypes can be affected by the pollen if I remember correctly. Dr white is also usually much larger by this time of year but the smaller fruit next to the larger one is siphoning off some of the nutrients.

Simon

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I would recommend that you plant your trees and just take care of them the best you can making sure you don’t over water. Parts of LA can have a lot more heat units than at my location and your Florida Turpentine rootstock trees can grow fine. Mango trees prefer good draining soil.

Your seedling trees should grow well until they naturally bloom. All your grafted trees will likely bloom in the first Winter and this can cause your grafted trees to become droopy. To prevent this you can remove the majority of each panicle to take some weight off. I would recommend removing fruit from your trees until they reach a good size. Good size means different things to each gardener but in general terms, you want to remove fruit until your tree is established and has nice strong scaffold branches capable of holding the weight of full sized mangos.

Simon

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