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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / ISO grape rootstock varieties
« on: April 15, 2024, 07:21:12 PM »
Seems hard to find. Only available online overseas. Anyone have grape vine rootstock scions?
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I have seen tomatoes grown very successfully in pots here in Florida (where nematodes can be a limiting factor for in-ground plants). I have also grown cherry, grape, and Campari tomatoes in shade (in the ground). I don't see any signs of a leaf disease like septoria, or early/late blight. I would be looking at a soil borne disease like fusarium or verticulum. If the plant dies, cut into the stem and look for brown dead streaks in the stem. I would also think that one of those is more likely if you have been growing the plant in the same medium as a diseased plant from before. Fresh plants in fresh soil would likely help for next year (we've passed the time to plant here in Florida now).
100% solved confirmed case closed. We have russet mites!! Again!! These guys are the worst pests I’ve ever dealt with. I wonder how many folks have tossed their tomatoes because of a “virus” which is really a mite they can’t see. It might be hard to distinguish in photos whether those are mites or random debris but it’s very obvious once you see them moving around
Did they burn because you sprayed the whole plant with water while then sun was out?That’s a common myth. If things worked that way then we’d be getting hotter instead of cooler when we sweat. Evaporation cools. Water isn’t a magnifying glass. Also once it goes over 100 in the summer humidity most everything that isn’t a cactus suffers. Instead of misting constantly or just plain giving up I put up a 30% shadecloth. There’s a reason tomatoes and strawberries are a winter crop in Florida, especially south Florida.First, the only way tomatoes look stringy like that is if you are growing them in too much shade.
Second, you're growing them in pots.
Try planting them in full direct sun in the soil and don't water any of the foliage.
I used to have a 99% shade cloth I have since gotten rid of. It’s under 30% shade cloth now and my Everglades has been producing like crazy and sprawled everywhere. The last time I tried full sun all my plants got fried as soon as it got hot. They’re in 5 gallon pots for now and have been doing super well. I have nowhere to put them in the ground unfortunately. I’m thinking either virus or tomato russet mite. The soil I used this year is completely fresh and new. Maybe I reused a pot..
First, the only way tomatoes look stringy like that is if you are growing them in too much shade.
Second, you're growing them in pots.
Try planting them in full direct sun in the soil and don't water any of the foliage.
I used to have a 99% shade cloth I have since gotten rid of. It’s under 30% shade cloth now and my Everglades has been producing like crazy and sprawled everywhere. The last time I tried full sun all my plants got fried as soon as it got hot. They’re in 5 gallon pots for now and have been doing super well. I have nowhere to put them in the ground unfortunately. I’m thinking either virus or tomato russet mite. The soil I used this year is completely fresh and new. Maybe I reused a pot..
SanDiegoCherimoya, that is an old and large tree. I just went to the CSUF arboretum again yesterday to see their large white sapote trees. Their trees are over 45years old and it is not that big. I estimate their trunk size to be 24-28" in diameter (next time I will take a tape measure).
Can you take a photo of the old tree and fruit photo if it has any now? I took some more photos of the CSUF white sapote tree so I can post it later here. It had some fruits on the McDill tree (one of the oldest tree in SoCal) but it was high on the tree. The roots seemed to go deep, but not wide from shape of the trunk to me. They have two very old trees at the arboretum. My seedling trees are from this McDill tree fruits and now I have my first flowers forming on my tree now. They also have the Wooly Leaf (yellow) sapote next to the McDill and my other seedlings are from that fruit which already fruited for me and tastes excellent.
Agreed, the fruits are not easy to pick from a tall tree but that said many doesnt get tall at al unless you count six meters as tall?
I've seen rollinias here that get 50 feet tall (16 meters) in good soil. Mine on lava rock is over 30 feet tall. I get plenty, and more than plenty fruits, from lower branches, so don't bother with pruning...let the birds eat the ones at the top. Ofcourse for commercial production everything needs to be kept at easily pickable height.
Oscar
Ready to resurrect this post.
What is the verdict on pruning Rolinia?
So I regrafted everything with different tape. Bagged them, and put the potts in the sun 🌞 to wake these mfers up. Will keep you updated.
I think the bags is the reason of your graft failure. It cook the scion. What I would do is using the cherimoya leaf and partially wrap around the scion and tie the leaf to the scion to provide the shade and heat. The idea is to prevent direct sun light, but still have the heat and brightness. Leave the plant in the sun to keep the rootstock active.