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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade => Topic started by: D-Grower on January 03, 2020, 07:16:49 AM
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Hello all!
I like wierd exotic stuff that is out of the ordinary. After doing lots of research I've stumbled upon many odd ball species but it seems you can always find more with enough diligence. I'm here to ask the community of knowledgeable fruit people what wierd zone 8 hardy fruits have you come to know? Trying to gather a list of all things that may grow well here in the Florida panhandle where some years may hit 15°F. Want stuff that can handle here without winter help or very limited help. Open to anything really from perennial herbs, veggies, useful non fruit baring edible/medicinal trees/bushes, to fruit baring species. Obviously I'm a fruit guy too so that's the main interest but all is welcome here if it's useful and will grow well. In other relevant info the soil I have is thick and clay like. Not great drainage but manageable. Willing to adjust planting sites for species that need good drainage though. I do have areas of my land that can remain soggy and hold water for days at the least too so any plants that can handle flooding on occasion but then drying out potentially for periods too are much needed. Let me please hear your wealth of suggestions!
Thanks! DG
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Pindo palm (Jelly Palm)... supposedly can handle down to 5 degrees. Edible palm fruit!!!
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Hello all!
I like wierd exotic stuff that is out of the ordinary. After doing lots of research I've stumbled upon many odd ball species but it seems you can always find more with enough diligence. I'm here to ask the community of knowledgeable fruit people what wierd zone 8 hardy fruits have you come to know? Trying to gather a list of all things that may grow well here in the Florida panhandle where some years may hit 15°F. Want stuff that can handle here without winter help or very limited help. Open to anything really from perennial herbs, veggies, useful non fruit baring edible/medicinal trees/bushes, to fruit baring species. Obviously I'm a fruit guy too so that's the main interest but all is welcome here if it's useful and will grow well. In other relevant info the soil I have is thick and clay like. Not great drainage but manageable. Willing to adjust planting sites for species that need good drainage though. I do have areas of my land that can remain soggy and hold water for days at the least too so any plants that can handle flooding on occasion but then drying out potentially for periods too are much needed. Let me please hear your wealth of suggestions!
Thanks! DG
Please give us the list you have amassed so far!
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Already got a few pindo palms going. It's a long process from seeds but the project is underway.
Here's a list of things I'm looking for:
Gooseberry (had a nice one doing well then all of a sudden died...)
Dead man's fingers
Chilean wine palm
Chilean guava(found source but awaiting funds to buy)
Chocolate vine
Perennial nine star broccoli
Perennial kales
Pink lemonade blueberry
Oca tubers
Tuberous nasturshum
Any type of edible true yams
Ramsons
Yellow flowering canna edulis
Green calyx or other than red Roselle
Kiwi vine
Peach or nectarine for this area
Any old deep south heirloom apple or pear
Joy apple
Golden Dorsett apple
Pineapple pear
Kiefer pear(pears and apples I'm willing to attempt grafting onto my existing types)
White mulberry
Arbequina olive
Autumn olive
Spice bush
Wild form fire bush
Water celery
Kang Kong
Tindora
Jicama
Chayote
Other than oleifera edible moringa types
Hardy sugar canes
Cold hardy avocado (fantastic, Joey, Lila, etc have Stewart and a bacon hybrid type)
Good edible quince
Currents
Filbert
Black walnut
Japanese heartnut
Kingnut hickory or any large inside kernel types
Mandarin melon berry
Japanese raisin tree
Pomegranate types
Rose of Sharon
Marsh mallow
Many more I've run across but that's just a bit off my head
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It looks like you are familiar with Just Fruits and Exotics?
They have a great selection for your area.
The one fruit I have heard the most people rave about is
the Paw Paw which should grow in your area.
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Yes I'm familiar with them. I do love that place! I'm certain I'll be back there at some point but it is an over 2 hour drive or so from me. Last time I stopped in there I bought two "Select Seedling" pawpaw trees. Super curious to try them in a few years. Already put them in ground a bit raised up because my soil is thick and can be wet sometimes. They are dormant now but I expect decent growth next season. I've bought a grafted nagami(spelling?) Kumquat, a "brown select" satsuma, two pineapple guava, and a fuyu persimmon from them also. All plants are of good quality and seem to be doing good so far. There is much more I want to get from them eventually. Perhaps they might trade me for some stuff as I do have lots of things I didn't see them carrying. Mostly perennial veggies. Think they have a presence here too don't they? Maybe they'll see that. However I need to get grafting and such and if I could source bud wood of some varieties like Joy Apple like they have it'd be much cheaper on me with my budget. It'd be more of an accomplishment too I'd figure.
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Forget about the black walnut and choose carpathian walnut if you want to eat the nuts.If you want to plant a native to USA walnut type,then plant the butternut instead of the black walnut.
The butter nut ( juglans cinerea) fruits a lot faster than the black walnut,its threatened with extinction unlike the black walnut and its the tastyest walnut wirh second being the carpathian and the black walnuts are at the bottom of the list.
Loquat is a nice fruit tree.
Ugni( chilean guava) its fast growing and you can breed it easy .
Mini kivis are also nice .
Kaki and american persimmons plus the texas persimmon are well suited for your climate.
Pawpaw was allready mentioned.
You can also grow almonds,cherryes,plums,apricots,peaches.
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A really odd one would be Kadsura.
And another really odd and rare tree would be the walnuts that makes giant nuts.I made a blog abou them here.http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31686.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31686.0)
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Carpathian is another name for the English walnut right? Want to be sure but seems so. Definitely would be interested in butternut too especially if they mature quickly and are of better edibility. The big walnut is totally awesome and I'd surly love to get my hands on that! If anyone can ID pay something pretty decent for some seeds. Either way would buy seeds or seedlings of the Carpathian or butternut too if anyone has them that sees this.
Kaki persimmons would be cool. Totally would buy some seeds of that. Already have a handful of native American persimmons going and had got seeds of Texas persimmons a bit ago that are currently stratifying in my refrigerator now.
Got loquat covered already here. Ate many as a child from neighborhood trees so definitely had to grow it. My largest tree is mature and has smallish fruits but decent flavor. Gonna attempt grafting Big Jim on a few branches right before spring from a member here when the time comes. Wouldn't mind putting Christmas on there too.
Chilean guava is on the radar for sure. Had gotten seeds from a member on here from Germany last year and had several sprouts but the darned chickens ruined that... Another member here has plants and I'll buy one or two here soon for sure as well as some other awesome stuff he has. Wanderlust nursery is his company. If you see this great selection man!
Got plums and cherries covered. Wild forms but will graft on later some good types. Don't mind wild stuff at all though. My palate is not picky and I want production at all above quality in my view of things.
Definitely want almonds, peaches, apricot, etc too. Had many nice seedling peaches going but deer grazed them so much they eventually died due to the reoccurring damage. I'll protect better next time.
Thanks for your reply!
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I also live in the Florida panhandle, and have had great success with Turks cap hibiscus (edible flowers + leaves), goumi, improved autumn olive, Chinese water chestnuts, cassava, ground nuts (Apios Americana), old fashioned edible daylily, native beauty berry (delicious jelly), coral vine (Antigonon leptopus...invasive potential, but entirely edible), arrow root (Maranta arundinaceae), ginger, turmeric, malanga, pecan, elderberries, Passion fruit, raja puri banana.
Unusual plants I’ve had my eye on:
. Fish mint. (Houttuynia cordata)
. American hazel nut.
. Ginkgo.
. Bunya pine.
. Strawberry guava.
. Taro root.
. Dunstan chestnut.
. Topi tambo (Calathea allouia)
. Suran root (Amorphophallus paeoniifolius).
. Water caltrop.
. Mayhaw trees. (Should handle poor drainage)
. Improved honey locust varieties. (Hershey, millwood, etc.)
. Dioscorea species.
. Latex vine. (Araujia odorata).
. Peruvian apple cactus.(Cereus Peruvianus)
. Improved prickly pear cactus.
. Sochan. (Rudbeckia laciniata)
. Chaya.
. Edible bamboo.
. Magnolia vine. (Schisandra chinensis)
. Lagos spinach. (Celosia argentea)
. Reverend Morgan apple tree.
. Improved Chickasaw plums.
. Good tasting hosta varieties. (Hosta fortunei)
. Ipomoea macrorhiza.
. Star anise. (Illicium verum)
. Florida native pawpaws. Asimina sp.
. Gopher apples.
. Madeira vine. (Anredera cordifolia.)
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Very nice list! Yes many of those I've been eyeing too if I don't already have it. I do have some of those and can help you with that if you like.
As for the stuff you mentioned having there's a few things I'd love to trade you for. The autumn olive, your cassava variety, day lily, coral vine, and whatever passionfruit you have.
Stuff I have you are looking into:
Taro
Dioscorea alata
Improved prickly pear
Chaya
Chickasaw plum (a wild form but has good quality fair sized fruit)
Gopher Apple
Strawberry guava(I don't know if cuttings will root well)
Some are available now but others will have to wait a season or two to share. Chaya, gopher apple, and Dioscorea alata are available now.
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The Amorphophallus paeoniifolius plant is very cool! I think I may have seen someone locally growing that. There's a person that grows tons of turmeric and gingers, yams, and other stuff I know to be edible in old bath tubs on my way into town from where I live. I saw the tall umbrella looking part of this plant the past season and wondered what the heck that was. Figured everything they are growing is edible that it was a likelihood it could be an edible too I am unfamiliar with. Now I know for sure. Darn near 100% sure that it must have been this plant. I already wanted to stop in and introduce myself as a fellow food plant grower and drop some new stuff on them. Now I definitely want to stop there! They have a fenced yard though is the major issue and I've never seen them outside. If I catch them outside they are getting a friendly introduction!
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Yeah, it’s interesting for sure. From my understanding, there are improved varieties of A. paeoniifolius that have been selected for eating quality (less acrid), so I have been trying to source them from ethnic markets to ensure edibility. No luck so far.
I would be happy to trade! Unfortunately, the goats have killed my passion fruit vine, however, I do have some smallish cassava cuttings that may work for you, autumn olive too. The coral vine is supposed to be easy to propagate from tubers, but I’ve not had any luck with it. ...still, I could send you one or two if you’d like to give it a go. The daylilies aren’t dormant yet.
I’m definitely interested in the chaya and gopher apple...and maybe d. alata too, depending on variety. I’m also always on the hunt for fruit tree scion wood, should you have any available. I’ve had some scale on a few of my trees this year, so I don’t think I’d be comfortable sending out any of my own. Figs and autumn olives have not been exposed.
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Whenever you think your ready to trade just let me know via PM.
The D. alata is a good type. Isn't a particular cultivar or whatever but does produce good large tubers in 2-3 seasons with ample aerial bulbils to start new plants. These are a white type. I too grow the purple type but they don't produce bulbils well and the main tuber is more rot prone. Perhaps in another season or two I'll be able to share the edible D. bulbifera variety that I have. Only got a few bulbils this year though. Also have D. polystachys but didn't get any bulbils this season and only a few the previous season. However member Caesar has the goods on the yam varieties.
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That amorphalus is amazing
Grows faster then bamboo from huge edible tubers
If your lucky enough and it flowers its truly amazing
Mine flowers almost 2 feet accross
Smells like rotting flesh-but worth it
(https://i.postimg.cc/DJ3LFZsz/Amorphalus.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJ3LFZsz)
The seed stalk looks like a stop light-green on bottom-yellow then red on top
makes them easy to spot in the wild
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I also live in the Florida panhandle, and have had great success with Turks cap hibiscus (edible flowers + leaves), goumi, improved autumn olive, Chinese water chestnuts, cassava, ground nuts (Apios Americana), old fashioned edible daylily, native beauty berry (delicious jelly), coral vine (Antigonon leptopus...invasive potential, but entirely edible), arrow root (Maranta arundinaceae), ginger, turmeric, malanga, pecan, elderberries, Passion fruit, raja puri banana.
Unusual plants I’ve had my eye on:
. Fish mint. (Houttuynia cordata)
. American hazel nut.
. Ginkgo.
. Bunya pine.
. Strawberry guava.
. Taro root.
. Dunstan chestnut.
. Topi tambo (Calathea allouia)
. Suran root (Amorphophallus paeoniifolius).
. Water caltrop.
. Mayhaw trees. (Should handle poor drainage)
. Improved honey locust varieties. (Hershey, millwood, etc.)
. Dioscorea species.
. Latex vine. (Araujia odorata).
. Peruvian apple cactus.(Cereus Peruvianus)
. Improved prickly pear cactus.
. Sochan. (Rudbeckia laciniata)
. Chaya.
. Edible bamboo.
. Magnolia vine. (Schisandra chinensis)
. Lagos spinach. (Celosia argentea)
. Reverend Morgan apple tree.
. Improved Chickasaw plums.
. Good tasting hosta varieties. (Hosta fortunei)
. Ipomoea macrorhiza.
. Star anise. (Illicium verum)
. Florida native pawpaws. Asimina sp.
. Gopher apples.
. Madeira vine. (Anredera cordifolia.)
Does Star Anise (Illicium verum) grow outside in your garden? Where did you get the plant/seed?
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@ Botanicus. No, it doesn’t, but I suspect star anise may be cold hardy enough to pull through a zone 8 winter. I have yet to find a source for the plant...so the search continues.
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Just realized I may know you on another forum Botanicus. If so thank you for your contributing species to my gardens. Soap berry trees etc. You may know me as MP(abbreviated) on STS if your the same guy.
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Another plant I want to get is witch hazel if anyone has any.
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this thread doesnt belong in "Sell & Trade"
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It is intended to find the above mentioned species in an effort to buy or trade for them.
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Pringle's Sapote (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=35270) is the only one I know that hasn't been listed yet.
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Thanks for the shoutout D-Grower! If anyone's curious about the nursery, the website is www.wanderlustnursery.com (http://www.wanderlustnursery.com). We'll be adding all sorts of few new offerings in March, so check us out. In addition to what I've seen posted here so far, here are some other fun plants we grow in zone 8b:
Figs
- Ficus carica (Common Fig, many varieties)
- Ficus johannis ssp. Afghanistanica (Afghan Fig)
- Ficus palmata (Punjab Fig)
Wineberries
- Aristotelia chilensis (Chilean Wineberry, Maqui)
- Aristotelia serrata (Mountain Wineberry)
Palms
- Allagoptera arenaria (Seashore Palm)
- Parajubaea torralyi (Bolivian Mountain Coconut)
Myrtaceae
- Luma apiculata (Luma, Arrayan)
- Luma chequen
- Myrceugenia ovata var. nanophylla
- Myrceugenia exsucca (Petra)
- Amomyrtus luma
- Amomyrtus meli
- Myrteola nummularia (Cranberry Myrtle)
- Myrtus communis (True Myrtle)
- Hexachlamys edulis (Ubajay)
- Myrcianthes pungens (Guabiju)
- Myrcianthes fragrans (Simpson's Stopper, Twinberry)
- Psidium longipetiolatum
Blueberry Relatives
- Vaccinium padifolium (Madeiran Blueberry)
- Agapetes serpens
- Agapetes hosseana
Other
- Leycesteria formosa (Himalayan Honeysuckle)
- Lonicera caerulea (Honeyberry, Haskap)
- Camellia sinensis (Tea)
- Tasmannia lanceolata (Tasmanian Mountain Pepper)
- Billardiera longiflora (Tasmanian Apple Berry)
- Maihuenia poeppigii (really cool cactus)
- Ullucus tuberosus (Ulluco)
- Smallanthus sonchifolius (Yacón)
- Dahlia imperialis (Tree Dahlia)
- Lardizabala biternata (Zabala)
- Lapageria rosea (Chilean Bellflower)
- Elaeagnus latifolia (Indian Olive, Bastar Oleander)
- Zanthoxylum simulans (Sichuan Pepper)
- Zanthoxylum piperitum (Sansho Pepper)
- Zingiber mioga (Japanese Ginger, Myoga)
- Rubus calycinoides (Creeping Raspberry, Emerald Carpet)
- Ilex paraguariensis (Yerba Mate)
Carpathian is another name for the English walnut right? Want to be sure but seems so. Definitely would be interested in butternut too especially if they mature quickly and are of better edibility. The big walnut is totally awesome and I'd surly love to get my hands on that! If anyone can ID pay something pretty decent for some seeds. Either way would buy seeds or seedlings of the Carpathian or butternut too if anyone has them that sees this.
Kaki persimmons would be cool. Totally would buy some seeds of that. Already have a handful of native American persimmons going and had got seeds of Texas persimmons a bit ago that are currently stratifying in my refrigerator now.
Got loquat covered already here. Ate many as a child from neighborhood trees so definitely had to grow it. My largest tree is mature and has smallish fruits but decent flavor. Gonna attempt grafting Big Jim on a few branches right before spring from a member here when the time comes. Wouldn't mind putting Christmas on there too.
Chilean guava is on the radar for sure. Had gotten seeds from a member on here from Germany last year and had several sprouts but the darned chickens ruined that... Another member here has plants and I'll buy one or two here soon for sure as well as some other awesome stuff he has. Wanderlust nursery is his company. If you see this great selection man!
Got plums and cherries covered. Wild forms but will graft on later some good types. Don't mind wild stuff at all though. My palate is not picky and I want production at all above quality in my view of things.
Definitely want almonds, peaches, apricot, etc too. Had many nice seedling peaches going but deer grazed them so much they eventually died due to the reoccurring damage. I'll protect better next time.
Thanks for your reply!
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Yes! These are the kinda plants I'm trying to find. Great suggestions people! Please by all means keep it up!
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Just realized I may know you on another forum Botanicus. If so thank you for your contributing species to my gardens. Soap berry trees etc. You may know me as MP(abbreviated) on STS if your the same guy.
;) yea thats me - Cheers!
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How about Araucaria angustifolia? I have some spares if your interested.
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That's a very cool looking tree for sure. Have you ever tried the seeds as a nut? Wondering if they are as good as commercial pine nuts.
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That's a very cool looking tree for sure. Have you ever tried the seeds as a nut? Wondering if they are as good as commercial pine nuts.
They take 50 years to produce first nuts .
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That's a real investment in the future lol.
Anyone grow vine peach? Is it worth growing taste and production wise?
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Anything else anyone can think of? Seems no matter how hard you search and think you've seen it all that when you least expect it something pops up that is super cool that you can't figure out how you hadn't seen it yet.
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That's a very cool looking tree for sure. Have you ever tried the seeds as a nut? Wondering if they are as good as commercial pine nuts.
They take 50 years to produce first nuts .
I think 50 years is an exaggeration, in reality trees can start producing at around 12-15 years old. The seeds are quite popular in parts of Brazil.
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I have lots of spare land to plant some stuff that may take long to produce. Got three acres total but aren't growing yet on most of it. Right side is mostly fruiting trees and bushes. Middle mostly veggies and herbs closer to house. Front is fruits and other useful trees. Far left is mostly uncleared scrubland and nothing yet intentional.
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That's a very cool looking tree for sure. Have you ever tried the seeds as a nut? Wondering if they are as good as commercial pine nuts.
They take 50 years to produce first nuts .
I think 50 years is an exaggeration, in reality trees can start producing at around 12-15 years old. The seeds are quite popular in parts of Brazil.
Good to know it doesnt take 50 years to produce the cones.
50 years its what people that grow Araucaria Arucana here say but in a cold place like Romania.
Its verry popular among collectors here as an ornamental.
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Botanicus I'd plant a few of those Araucaria angustifolia on my land if you have a few to spare. Are the nuts like the size of store pine nuts? Planning to eventually find bunya bunya and monkey puzzle trees too. Whether or not I ever get to eat any is beside the point. Cool rare trees in need of preservation nonetheless. Hopefully if I only plant 2-3 of each I can get both a male and female to produce when they finally flower.
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Did anyone mention ashitaba? I planted one in a bed with peanuts and it has become huge. Can't eat it quickly enough.
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Did anyone mention ashitaba? I planted one in a bed with peanuts and it has become huge. Can't eat it quickly enough.
I’ve always assumed ashitaba required a mild climate. I’ll definitely be searching out this plant if it can handle the south’s heat and humidity.
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jujube and citrus are some of my favs that take cold.
my kumquat just fruited, and man, its a lot more flavorful and sweet than i thought it would be.
i could eat 100 of them.
also, mulberry feijoa, loquat,
my Cherry of the Rio Grand took 20F 2 years ago
and didnt lose a leaf.
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Hi Anolis, Ashitaba does well here. I haven't tried to control it and it's taken over my peanut patch and is now threatening my asparagus. It roots easily from cuttings. D
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Definitely interested in the ashitaba plant. Looks pretty awesome for sure. I like invasive stuff that's edible. Can't complain about over abundance of food!
I'll have to look into cherry of the Rio grand. Is that also called grumuchama(SP?)?
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Definitely looking to add good edible cultivars of Dahlia and hostas if anyone can help out with that. Of coarse trade or pay. Also finally got the tawny orange day lily that's edible but would like any other confirmed edible types like the yellow ones from Asia. Also any good edibility forms of tiger lily would be awesome too! Definitely want quality edible types that taste at least decent or good. Anyone out there with this stuff?
Would definitely love to try oca tubers and tuberous nasturtium too!
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Artichokes and cardoons should do well.
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Tried artichokes last year. Grew well at first but declined and died over time. Gonna try again though. Cardoon would be cool too. Tried rhubarb last year and it did fairly well but a freak rain event flooded the area they were in for days and rotted them out. Usually that area would not flood too it was just so much rain so fast.
The asparagus I planted did well and is still going fortunately though kinda dormant right now. They flooded too but it didn't effect them much at all. Hopefully in spring I'll actually get spears. This would be their second season.
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I don't think rhubarb would do well this far South. If you are successful it would be great!
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I can send you Oca, Costas and Ashitaba. Pm
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Has anybody thought of anything else to add to my hunt it down list? I'm ready to grow!
On another note does anyone have any of the edible fruit viburnum species? Or the ones that the leaves are used for teas?
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Some more edible perennials I'd like to find:
Good King Henry
Ostrich fern
Sea kale
Ramps
Scarlet runner beans
Sorrel varieties
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Another interesting species to obtain.
Acer saccarum var. floridanum aka A. barbatum
Acer saccarum "Caddo" might work here too
In a side note apparently these trees can be tapped for sap used in making syrups:
Birches
Hickory
Silver maple
Black walnut
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Hoja Santa? I've had it growing in a pot several years and it freezes down to the soil in really bad years but regrows in Spring.
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I do have hoja Santo. Does pretty good here. Did freeze back when we got 25°F not long ago. It'll return no doubt.
I know there's still tons of stuff not yet mentioned in this thread. Every time I think I've seen it all something pops up and you wonder how you missed that. Sometimes even a bunch of stuff on one site you haven't heard of before.
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I'm really enjoying this thread. Thank you for starting it! D.
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A few more plants to add to my find list:
Sweet Cicely aka Myrrhis odorata
Turkish Rocket
Fuki aka Petasites Japonicus
Glycyrrhiza Lepidota aka wild licorice
Glycyrrhiza glabra aka true licorice
Senna alexandria
Edible/nitrogen fixing locust trees(honey, black, etc)
Hops aka Humulus lupus
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A few more plants to add to my find list:
Sweet Cicely aka Myrrhis odorata
Turkish Rocket
Fuki aka Petasites Japonicus
Glycyrrhiza Lepidota aka wild licorice
Glycyrrhiza glabra aka true licorice
Senna alexandria
Edible/nitrogen fixing locust trees(honey, black, etc)
Hops aka Humulus lupus
I have 2 hectares of black locust trees on top of a hill.Its basically a wild forest there.
They make a ton of honey per hectare in 2-3 weeks when they are in bloom.
The honey of the black locust its clear almost like water and smells like black locust flowers.It is also expensive,costs double than regular honey.
Its not a tree native to europe( its american tree) but we are famous for the vlack locust honey here.
For warmer places there is also the mexican black locust with pink flowers instead of white.
The honey locust its not that good for bees as the black locust.
Ive ate the pods of honey locust and they are sweet sour but also bitter.Nobody eats them here thogh my grandfather told me he ate them in 1945 when it was famine.
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That's good to know thanks for the info!
A couple more plants I'm looking for:
Wormwood(tried seeds many times without any success does anyone have a live plant available)
True lavender (have started from seed before but seedlings end up dying at a few inches tall. Anyone have a fairly established plant?)
Rhodiola (again seeds without luck several times. Once got a live dug up wild one from out west but it sadly died. Would like another go at one!)
Cat's Claw
Devil's claw
Real Damiana T. diffusa(should grow wild out west)
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Some of the nurseries here sell wormwood plants. I planted one and it got huge! Took over the bed. D
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Does it sucker off small plants at its base or anything?
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Mine did. Check out the Oikos nursery site. I didn't know there were so many varieties of Jerusalem Artichoke! I hate spell correction!
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More to add to the find it list:
Murnong
Passiflora caerula
Sweet potato varieties
Different colored oca(just fit a reddish colored one from a member. Very excited to grow it!) Would like blue and green etc if anyone has any
Easy flowering carrots for the deep south
Queen Anne's lace
Tuberous pea
Chufa
Duckweed
Parsnip
Skirret
Kales
The blue and green and white turmeric
Blue and green ginger types
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I think queen Ann's lace crosses with carrots and lowers their quality. D
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I believe I read they readily cross too.
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More species for the find list:
Salad burnet
Fenugreek
Oyster leaf
Burdock
Yarrow
Feverfew
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Anyone got sherbet berry growing that's available?
On a side note local silver thorn bushes are in heavy fruit. They really aren't bad at all. Mild sweet with otherwise pleasant flavor. More seed than fruit but they do have a fair amount of meat to them. Anyone wants some let me know. Probably a good graft stock for autumn olive and goumi etc.
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Agaritas are a native bush in S. Tx that make tasty but very seedy berries. They would grow for you. D
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Thanks for the recommendation! Sounds like an interesting species. Always down to try anything. Not worried about seediness at all. I prefer things that reliably produce over absolute quality. It's nice to fund plants of both quality and production but isn't a big deal here.
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Thanks for the shoutout D-Grower! If anyone's curious about the nursery, the website is www.wanderlustnursery.com (http://www.wanderlustnursery.com). We'll be adding all sorts of few new offerings in March, so check us out. In addition to what I've seen posted here so far, here are some other fun plants we grow in zone 8b:
Figs
- Ficus carica (Common Fig, many varieties)
- Ficus johannis ssp. Afghanistanica (Afghan Fig)
- Ficus palmata (Punjab Fig)
Wineberries
- Aristotelia chilensis (Chilean Wineberry, Maqui)
- Aristotelia serrata (Mountain Wineberry)
Palms
- Allagoptera arenaria (Seashore Palm)
- Parajubaea torralyi (Bolivian Mountain Coconut)
Myrtaceae
- Luma apiculata (Luma, Arrayan)
- Luma chequen
- Myrceugenia ovata var. nanophylla
- Myrceugenia exsucca (Petra)
- Amomyrtus luma
- Amomyrtus meli
- Myrteola nummularia (Cranberry Myrtle)
- Myrtus communis (True Myrtle)
- Hexachlamys edulis (Ubajay)
- Myrcianthes pungens (Guabiju)
- Myrcianthes fragrans (Simpson's Stopper, Twinberry)
- Psidium longipetiolatum
Blueberry Relatives
- Vaccinium padifolium (Madeiran Blueberry)
- Agapetes serpens
- Agapetes hosseana
Other
- Leycesteria formosa (Himalayan Honeysuckle)
- Lonicera caerulea (Honeyberry, Haskap)
- Camellia sinensis (Tea)
- Tasmannia lanceolata (Tasmanian Mountain Pepper)
- Billardiera longiflora (Tasmanian Apple Berry)
- Maihuenia poeppigii (really cool cactus)
- Ullucus tuberosus (Ulluco)
- Smallanthus sonchifolius (Yacón)
- Dahlia imperialis (Tree Dahlia)
- Lardizabala biternata (Zabala)
- Lapageria rosea (Chilean Bellflower)
- Elaeagnus latifolia (Indian Olive, Bastar Oleander)
- Zanthoxylum simulans (Sichuan Pepper)
- Zanthoxylum piperitum (Sansho Pepper)
- Zingiber mioga (Japanese Ginger, Myoga)
- Rubus calycinoides (Creeping Raspberry, Emerald Carpet)
- Ilex paraguariensis (Yerba Mate)
Carpathian is another name for the English walnut right? Want to be sure but seems so. Definitely would be interested in butternut too especially if they mature quickly and are of better edibility. The big walnut is totally awesome and I'd surly love to get my hands on that! If anyone can ID pay something pretty decent for some seeds. Either way would buy seeds or seedlings of the Carpathian or butternut too if anyone has them that sees this.
Kaki persimmons would be cool. Totally would buy some seeds of that. Already have a handful of native American persimmons going and had got seeds of Texas persimmons a bit ago that are currently stratifying in my refrigerator now.
Got loquat covered already here. Ate many as a child from neighborhood trees so definitely had to grow it. My largest tree is mature and has smallish fruits but decent flavor. Gonna attempt grafting Big Jim on a few branches right before spring from a member here when the time comes. Wouldn't mind putting Christmas on there too.
Chilean guava is on the radar for sure. Had gotten seeds from a member on here from Germany last year and had several sprouts but the darned chickens ruined that... Another member here has plants and I'll buy one or two here soon for sure as well as some other awesome stuff he has. Wanderlust nursery is his company. If you see this great selection man!
Got plums and cherries covered. Wild forms but will graft on later some good types. Don't mind wild stuff at all though. My palate is not picky and I want production at all above quality in my view of things.
Definitely want almonds, peaches, apricot, etc too. Had many nice seedling peaches going but deer grazed them so much they eventually died due to the reoccurring damage. I'll protect better next time.
Thanks for your reply!
Nice Nursery
I didn't see the Lapageria rosea ( Chilean bellflower or copihue) on the Nursery site
Is it true you can eat the seeds cooked as well or is it just fruits not having much luck online.
D grower You said hops you can make a bitter tea with them as well
(with layers of different flavors in each glass boiling water with the same hops over, & over again)
I have to say Humulus lupulus var. Neomexicanus
It is by the western states more , but your more humid I think
(your not to far from Louisiana As I remember)
I think these might not be as bad in the heat though just guessing ,(see below)
Soraschi Ace hop
is a "PART "Japanese breed hop that prevents Powdery Mildew downy mildew
although beware pure Japanese hops are not recommended
(if they are male with female as they can become invasive)
(copied from here )
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=200006377 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=200006377)
(https://i.postimg.cc/S2D5xd97/humulus-lupulus-var-Neomexicanus.gif) (https://postimg.cc/S2D5xd97)
I really wasn't going to post until later as I have so many more Just kept getting drawn to this post today.
Look into the natives as well In the Tea family Stewartia ovata (NC) S. malacodendron
Gordonia lasianthus &(we have Franklinia )
You may not even drink tea , but the flowers are nice looking
https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/x-gordlinia-grandiflora/ (https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/x-gordlinia-grandiflora/)
How much land you got Some tiny may apples may look nice (Podophyllum) to protect from animals
you also have a native type , but I looked it doesn't look edible like ours is
Spotty Dotty is a Chinese Hybrid with spotted leaves these do well under a forest , and taste lemon like.
(I may have seeds)
In another post I brought up hullless Pumpkin seeds to roast no hard outer coating (I do not mind that actually)
Vitis Shuttleworthii is a native grape in florida
with these acidic Grapes you can dilute with water, and make juice with sugar added.
speaking of which
I saw rhubarb growing in New orleans in a raised garden bed
maybe it could grow there or refrigerate the rhizome .
I may have some seeds of some stuff do you grow Ginkgo (I have a few seeds)
mortum arboretum has a grey leaf looking cultivar
(I like those cultivars that grow all knobby
Dwarf Japanese Maple (mikawa yatsubusa)
that can be trained to look weird as well
Tulip tree is okay in zone 4 to 9 Liriodendron tulipifera
My computers not working right now very good , but I know of some weird cutivars
Varigated Ginkgo is pretty nice just get a normal one they grow so slow ,
and the tea helps blood flow to the brain (, and helps with men's health I'm sure as well with woman)
be advised may not be good to take if you take aspirine everyday as some people do after stroke I've read..
As I forgot almost The hop people I brought up
invasive species brewery fort lauderdale is trying to grow hops
(or see Urban Farming Institute in Oakland Park)
I know that is a lot , but to grow hops in florida you may have to try some of these people
or that japanese breed type Soraschi Ace as I am sure powdery mildew might be bad down that way
you may have to strip the vines of the leaves like they do to grapes to make go dorment (or use Urea large scale)
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Thanks Francis_Eric, I appreciate that! I've gone ahead and added Chilean Bellflower to our website, they're now available in 4 inch pots. I wouldn't recommend eating the seeds in my experience, but I'm sure they're not toxic. The fruit is supposedly quite good, although I haven't tried it myself.
Thanks for the shoutout D-Grower! If anyone's curious about the nursery, the website is www.wanderlustnursery.com (http://www.wanderlustnursery.com). We'll be adding all sorts of few new offerings in March, so check us out. In addition to what I've seen posted here so far, here are some other fun plants we grow in zone 8b:
Figs
- Ficus carica (Common Fig, many varieties)
- Ficus johannis ssp. Afghanistanica (Afghan Fig)
- Ficus palmata (Punjab Fig)
Wineberries
- Aristotelia chilensis (Chilean Wineberry, Maqui)
- Aristotelia serrata (Mountain Wineberry)
Palms
- Allagoptera arenaria (Seashore Palm)
- Parajubaea torralyi (Bolivian Mountain Coconut)
Myrtaceae
- Luma apiculata (Luma, Arrayan)
- Luma chequen
- Myrceugenia ovata var. nanophylla
- Myrceugenia exsucca (Petra)
- Amomyrtus luma
- Amomyrtus meli
- Myrteola nummularia (Cranberry Myrtle)
- Myrtus communis (True Myrtle)
- Hexachlamys edulis (Ubajay)
- Myrcianthes pungens (Guabiju)
- Myrcianthes fragrans (Simpson's Stopper, Twinberry)
- Psidium longipetiolatum
Blueberry Relatives
- Vaccinium padifolium (Madeiran Blueberry)
- Agapetes serpens
- Agapetes hosseana
Other
- Leycesteria formosa (Himalayan Honeysuckle)
- Lonicera caerulea (Honeyberry, Haskap)
- Camellia sinensis (Tea)
- Tasmannia lanceolata (Tasmanian Mountain Pepper)
- Billardiera longiflora (Tasmanian Apple Berry)
- Maihuenia poeppigii (really cool cactus)
- Ullucus tuberosus (Ulluco)
- Smallanthus sonchifolius (Yacón)
- Dahlia imperialis (Tree Dahlia)
- Lardizabala biternata (Zabala)
- Lapageria rosea (Chilean Bellflower)
- Elaeagnus latifolia (Indian Olive, Bastar Oleander)
- Zanthoxylum simulans (Sichuan Pepper)
- Zanthoxylum piperitum (Sansho Pepper)
- Zingiber mioga (Japanese Ginger, Myoga)
- Rubus calycinoides (Creeping Raspberry, Emerald Carpet)
- Ilex paraguariensis (Yerba Mate)
Carpathian is another name for the English walnut right? Want to be sure but seems so. Definitely would be interested in butternut too especially if they mature quickly and are of better edibility. The big walnut is totally awesome and I'd surly love to get my hands on that! If anyone can ID pay something pretty decent for some seeds. Either way would buy seeds or seedlings of the Carpathian or butternut too if anyone has them that sees this.
Kaki persimmons would be cool. Totally would buy some seeds of that. Already have a handful of native American persimmons going and had got seeds of Texas persimmons a bit ago that are currently stratifying in my refrigerator now.
Got loquat covered already here. Ate many as a child from neighborhood trees so definitely had to grow it. My largest tree is mature and has smallish fruits but decent flavor. Gonna attempt grafting Big Jim on a few branches right before spring from a member here when the time comes. Wouldn't mind putting Christmas on there too.
Chilean guava is on the radar for sure. Had gotten seeds from a member on here from Germany last year and had several sprouts but the darned chickens ruined that... Another member here has plants and I'll buy one or two here soon for sure as well as some other awesome stuff he has. Wanderlust nursery is his company. If you see this great selection man!
Got plums and cherries covered. Wild forms but will graft on later some good types. Don't mind wild stuff at all though. My palate is not picky and I want production at all above quality in my view of things.
Definitely want almonds, peaches, apricot, etc too. Had many nice seedling peaches going but deer grazed them so much they eventually died due to the reoccurring damage. I'll protect better next time.
Thanks for your reply!
Nice Nursery
I didn't see the Lapageria rosea ( Chilean bellflower or copihue) on the Nursery site
Is it true you can eat the seeds cooked as well or is it just fruits not having much luck online.
D grower You said hops you can make a bitter tea with them as well
(with layers of different flavors in each glass boiling water with the same hops over, & over again)
I have to say Humulus lupulus var. Neomexicanus
It is by the western states more , but your more humid I think
(your not to far from Louisiana As I remember)
I think these might not be as bad in the heat though just guessing ,(see below)
Soraschi Ace hop
is a "PART "Japanese breed hop that prevents Powdery Mildew downy mildew
although beware pure Japanese hops are not recommended
(if they are male with female as they can become invasive)
(copied from here )
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=200006377 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=200006377)
(https://i.postimg.cc/S2D5xd97/humulus-lupulus-var-Neomexicanus.gif) (https://postimg.cc/S2D5xd97)
I really wasn't going to post until later as I have so many more Just kept getting drawn to this post today.
Look into the natives as well In the Tea family Stewartia ovata (NC) S. malacodendron
Gordonia lasianthus &(we have Franklinia )
You may not even drink tea , but the flowers are nice looking
https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/x-gordlinia-grandiflora/ (https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/x-gordlinia-grandiflora/)
How much land you got Some tiny may apples may look nice (Podophyllum) to protect from animals
you also have a native type , but I looked it doesn't look edible like ours is
Spotty Dotty is a Chinese Hybrid with spotted leaves these do well under a forest , and taste lemon like.
(I may have seeds)
In another post I brought up hullless Pumpkin seeds to roast no hard outer coating (I do not mind that actually)
Vitis Shuttleworthii is a native grape in florida
with these acidic Grapes you can dilute with water, and make juice with sugar added.
speaking of which
I saw rhubarb growing in New orleans in a raised garden bed
maybe it could grow there or refrigerate the rhizome .
I may have some seeds of some stuff do you grow Ginkgo (I have a few seeds)
mortum arboretum has a grey leaf looking cultivar
(I like those cultivars that grow all knobby
Dwarf Japanese Maple (mikawa yatsubusa)
that can be trained to look weird as well
Tulip tree is okay in zone 4 to 9 Liriodendron tulipifera
My computers not working right now very good , but I know of some weird cutivars
Varigated Ginkgo is pretty nice just get a normal one they grow so slow ,
and the tea helps blood flow to the brain (, and helps with men's health I'm sure as well with woman)
be advised may not be good to take if you take aspirine everyday as some people do after stroke I've read..
As I forgot almost The hop people I brought up
invasive species brewery fort lauderdale is trying to grow hops
(or see Urban Farming Institute in Oakland Park)
I know that is a lot , but to grow hops in florida you may have to try some of these people
or that japanese breed type Soraschi Ace as I am sure powdery mildew might be bad down that way
you may have to strip the vines of the leaves like they do to grapes to make go dorment (or use Urea large scale)
-
this would be a great thread if places selling and sending all these were shown. Majority of the names of plants quoted here are unknown to me. Thanks for the ASHITABA anyway, i had never heard of it and seems to be worth to search for a place to buy it.
By the way, have a look to https://jurassicplants.co.uk/pages/our-story