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Title: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 01, 2013, 07:03:40 PM
I love mulberries.

what are you're favorite cultivars??  I'm looking for something different than Pakistan, which pretty much has the reputation as being the king...help me find some new varieties!

thanks!
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on April 01, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
The king is the green/white mulberry.  BLOWS AWAY any of the purple/black varieties...and guess where you can get it  ;) :)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 01, 2013, 08:05:34 PM
The king is the green/white mulberry.  BLOWS AWAY any of the purple/black varieties...and guess where you can get it  ;) :)

is green white like Pakistan, but shorter?  can be eaten early?

thanks Rob
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: TREESNMORE on April 01, 2013, 08:07:54 PM
TreesN More  two types  white plus oak leaf and a 4 inch long pakistan  and a small white fruit
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: nullzero on April 01, 2013, 08:32:46 PM
Look into these, they may interest you... especially for container culture.

Shangri la
Geraldi dwarf
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: TREESNMORE on April 01, 2013, 08:55:43 PM
Shangri la is a pakistan that is what Zills calls theres have it .Adam I have a nice colliction see what I have on saturday.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: jc on April 01, 2013, 08:59:24 PM
I picked up one of those green/white mulberry 3 gal from Excalibur. They are super sweet. Fruit is shaped like a caterpillar. Does anyone know what the type is actually called.

(http://s10.postimg.cc/ut35bvt1h/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ut35bvt1h/)
 
After a little Google action I came up with this. Perhaps it's a Shahtoot?  Awesome name!
http://blog.daleysfruit.com.au/2006/06/shahtoot-king-white-mulberry.html?m=1 (http://blog.daleysfruit.com.au/2006/06/shahtoot-king-white-mulberry.html?m=1)


I think I also tasted the East Coast there also. They are awesome too. Red/purple/black fruit very sweet with the tart/tannin that's typical of red berries. Excalibur was out of 3 gal otherwise I would have bought both.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: TREESNMORE on April 01, 2013, 09:34:39 PM
JC I am in palm city I have Excalibaur green / white I have TreeHouse Green/white I have zills Paskistan I have Pine Island Paskistan I have hopinkins Gaint paskistan I have oak leaf I have Isons 4 inch long paskistan and I have a white  mulberry and a dwarf mulberry. come see me
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: jc on April 01, 2013, 09:52:26 PM
Cool, which ones are fruiting?  I want to taste as many as possible and maybe buy a red variety.  Maybe one that fruits well in a pot. Are you open on Sunday?  If not I have to wait till next Saturday at the earliest?

JC I am in palm city I have Excalibaur green / white I have TreeHouse Green/white I have zills Paskistan I have Pine Island Paskistan I have hopinkins Gaint paskistan I have oak leaf I have Isons 4 inch long paskistan and I have a white  mulberry and a dwarf mulberry. come see me
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: TREESNMORE on April 01, 2013, 10:09:30 PM
Three Pakistan fruiting all the time now. Big trees. Others you can see fruit on call me Mike 772-781-9570. I will tell you what you can taste.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: mangomandan on April 02, 2013, 04:54:16 AM
I've planted and enjoyed Peggy's Black  and  Wacissa, both from a Florida nursery I believe.

They are just basic nice mulberries, good combination of sweet and tart usually.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: pajoojo on April 02, 2013, 07:33:40 AM
We have lot of Blueberryhere in Greece, but I don't have any idea about varieties. I just know there are some black-violet and other white. But the white are not really tasty...only for caterpillar ;-)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Jsvand5 on April 02, 2013, 09:54:12 AM
I can send you a bunch of cuttings from my shangri la and silk hope. My shangri la is definitely not the same as the Pakistan. Can't tell you much about the taste. I won't eat them because the berries are always loaded with bugs.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 02, 2013, 01:23:16 PM
Has anyone ever tasted a paper mulberry fruit?

(http://s17.postimg.cc/iu058w1rf/paperm.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/iu058w1rf/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: BMc on April 02, 2013, 09:02:11 PM
We obviously have different names for the fruits than you, but the Red Dwarf Shahtoot is a winner for me. I find the King White Shahtoot to be insipid - without any real flavour, just a watery honey taste. I also love the big old standard English Mulberry with more complexity - many newer selections are just sweet.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Joshua_TX on April 02, 2013, 10:30:54 PM
Adam, I am trying to root some cuttings of a variety of Morus nigra right now.  The person I got them from said the fruit was truly fantastic and the tree is different than the usual black/Persian mulberries, it has a semi-weeping habit where it grows down and then back up.  If they take I have one with your name on it.  I also am growing Illinois Everbearing and Pakistan.  The Illinois Everbearing is fruiting itself senseless right now, the fruit are smaller but tasty.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 02, 2013, 11:07:50 PM
Adam, I am trying to root some cuttings of a variety of Morus nigra right now.  The person I got them from said the fruit was truly fantastic and the tree is different than the usual black/Persian mulberries, it has a semi-weeping habit where it grows down and then back up.  If they take I have one with your name on it.  I also am growing Illinois Everbearing and Pakistan.  The Illinois Everbearing is fruiting itself senseless right now, the fruit are smaller but tasty.

Thanks Joshua!!  Sounds interesting!

I recently saw a dwarf Mulberry from Logee's called "Issai"...my buddy said he's really pleased with the tree, and the fruits are delicious.

here is a link

http://www.logees.com/Mulberry-Issai-Morus-alba/productinfo/R2179-4/ (http://www.logees.com/Mulberry-Issai-Morus-alba/productinfo/R2179-4/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: behlgarden on April 03, 2013, 07:47:07 PM
I love mulberries.

what are you're favorite cultivars??  I'm looking for something different than Pakistan, which pretty much has the reputation as being the king...help me find some new varieties!

thanks!
(http://s18.postimg.cc/rp8ahr26t/Mulberries.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/rp8ahr26t/)

Try Persian Mullbery! I grafted them on my pakistani mullberry and it took. I have tasted it in one of the nursery and its absolutely juicy and delicious!
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: fruitlovers on April 04, 2013, 02:50:00 AM
Persian mulberries are indeed delicious, but unfortunately don't do well in tropical areas. There are only a few mulberries that do well in warm climates. So this is something to keep in mind when choosing your mulberry.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 04, 2013, 02:14:01 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taiwan-Long-Mulberry-baby-tree-GROW-YOUR-OWN-PLANT-/181022642609?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a25ca51b1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taiwan-Long-Mulberry-baby-tree-GROW-YOUR-OWN-PLANT-/181022642609?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a25ca51b1)

is this just a different pakistan?  or is this normal size for pakistan?  Ive never seen them this size.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ScottR on April 04, 2013, 11:04:51 PM
Adam, that last
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taiwan-Long-Mulberry-baby-tree-GROW-YOUR-OWN-PLANT-/181022642609?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a25ca51b1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taiwan-Long-Mulberry-baby-tree-GROW-YOUR-OWN-PLANT-/181022642609?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a25ca51b1)

is this just a different pakistan?  or is this normal size for pakistan?  Ive never seen them this size.
I've never seen one that big the biggest that I have seen were about 6"long and 1/2-5/8" in dia.another good one I have is Beautiful Day a white fruited mulberry, sweet lilac,Oscar are some to check out.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Jacob13 on April 04, 2013, 11:40:37 PM
Hey Adam,

I am rooting some "Shangri La" cuttings that should be ready in a couple of weeks.  Let me know if you are interested and I will send one to you.  They are a great tasting mulberry and super prolific.  I will take a picture of a small tree I have that is absolutely loaded just to give you an idea.

Jacob
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 05, 2013, 12:05:26 AM
Hey Adam,

I am rooting some "Shangri La" cuttings that should be ready in a couple of weeks.  Let me know if you are interested and I will send one to you.  They are a great tasting mulberry and super prolific.  I will take a picture of a small tree I have that is absolutely loaded just to give you an idea.

Jacob

yes!  I trust you and nullzy!

this sounds like a must have!!!

thanks!!!
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: nullzero on April 05, 2013, 12:39:57 AM
Hey Adam,

I am rooting some "Shangri La" cuttings that should be ready in a couple of weeks.  Let me know if you are interested and I will send one to you.  They are a great tasting mulberry and super prolific.  I will take a picture of a small tree I have that is absolutely loaded just to give you an idea.

Jacob

yes!  I trust you and nullzy!

this sounds like a must have!!!

thanks!!!


Adam,

I have had mine rooted for 1 year and its starting to push fruits out. Its a very precocious tree. So far I have not tasted it yet, but I have heard its one of the better ones out there.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h0iCGX096qg/UTV_UwprqvI/AAAAAAAAEtE/VfycPBjtS5o/s640/P1060321.JPG)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Jacob13 on April 05, 2013, 01:04:14 AM
Yes, it is very Precocious!
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on May 23, 2013, 05:02:40 PM
Finally got some paper mulberries ripening.  The pulp on the first crop seems scant, but I like the way it tastes...maybe they'll start to fill out more, like I've seen in other pics.  Oh well, I'm happy to have finally tasted some.  :)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/suz6ssawt/5_23_2013_001.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/suz6ssawt/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: murraystevena2 on May 23, 2013, 06:28:38 PM
I have tried paper mulberries in a few different places in the world and tried my first ones in paraguey when I didnt know what they were and again in vietnam. There isnt much flesh on them, but the flesh they do have taste alot like a fig if you turned it inside out, with the flesh being very soft. There also seems to be some variability between trees with some trees producing more than others. I collected seeds in Vietnam, but found out from literature they they can be very invasive, so I didnt bring them in. On my family's farm we have many old male trees and they sucker up all over the place but look really cool. The trees are over 80 years old and are covered in knoppy growths. Birds can spread them very easily too. I did like them a bit and as said I have male suckers all over the place and in the future wouldn't mind a scion to grow, I'll just to graft it onto a sucker and keep it in greenhouse so that none of the seeds could get outside. Males produce a lot of pollen and can cause seasonal allergies. Also there are many many varieties of mulberries here in china and I am sure that most of them are only here in china. I read a paper a while back and it talked about 10 or so species of mulberries being native including several morus macroura being huge. There was a species with even longer fruits that were loose and looked very similar to catkins and not a blackberry.
BTW does anyone grow Morus rubra? Are there any improved varieties? I have several different M negra, M alba, and M macroura but have never seen or tried the only one that is native to the states. There are also many other species of mulberries out there too like M texanas and lots of other asian sp.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: kgknight on May 23, 2013, 08:43:18 PM
Rob, is the green different than the white variety? I had a white mulberry planted at my fathers house and it was average flavor.  I don't know the actual botanical name, but I am wondering if the green you guys have is different/better than the one I am referring to?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Doglips on May 24, 2013, 11:53:20 AM
What varieties do they feed to the silkworms?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Central Floridave on May 24, 2013, 01:31:16 PM
Although its common and offered at plant sales I don't see it listed in this thread....so, i can recommend the Tice variety as a good one.   Fruit is good.  Tree gets large quick though.  Large leaf and is a pretty tree.  Production has been sparse for me, but that could be that I don't care for the tree that much, if at all.  I just stuck a cutting in the ground and forgot about it and now is around ten feet.

I've also had the Thai Everbearing one but it had to be removed as it got too big and dropped too much fruit on pavement.  Its one of the most ornamental ones with a weeping habit.  The fruit is small, prolific, and tasty.    More of a novelty than anything else though, and very common.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Central Floridave on April 25, 2014, 08:25:08 PM
one year old thread, but just want to say my TICE mulberry is extremely loaded with ripe fruit right now.    Wife said she will make mulberry pie tomorrow!  Woot!   

Tice is a good one. 
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: gunnar429 on April 25, 2014, 11:22:44 PM
the himalayan mulberries at fruit and spice park are incredible...best i have ever had.  They are juicy and sweet, even when unripe.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: puzzle5112 on April 26, 2014, 03:16:31 PM
Has anyone ever tasted a paper mulberry fruit?

(http://s17.postimg.cc/iu058w1rf/paperm.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/iu058w1rf/)

Hi Adam

I tried paper mulberry several times but I think its insipid. ::)


Leo
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on January 04, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
back at it again...I'm on a mulberry mission...

just planted a pair of white mulberries today....

i've noticed that this variety (i know there are several white mulberry varieties) has the most beautiful shape when the tree grows.  It is very well behaved, and not as shrubby as some of the common types I've seen...I wish I had a pic of the mother tree....it was the prettiest mulberry tree I've seen.

does anyone have any exciting info about mulberries?

I'm ready to expand my collection...so this is a subject of interest to me now.  I finally have space to plant!

on a side note, there is another mulberry tree that grows along a canal in the Winter Park FL area....it must be 50 yrs old the trunk is like an oak tree....but I remember the fruit being excellent...much better than the other trees I've tasted locally.  Fruits were not very large, and you could eat them slightly early without being too acidic.  I will have to get cuttings again while the tree is dormant.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on January 04, 2015, 05:22:42 PM
I dont know if its a specific variety or not but the white mulberry is considered a superfood.

Excalibur has a white mulberry,  in addition to their green mulberry,  however i have not tasted the fruit yet so i can't comment on it.  So far, their green mulberry is the best tasting mulberry i have tasted, hands down.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on January 04, 2015, 05:30:45 PM
I dont know if its a specific variety or not but the white mulberry is considered a superfood.

Excalibur has a white mulberry,  in addition to their green mulberry,  however i have not tasted the fruit yet so i can't comment on it.  So far, their green mulberry is the best tasting mulberry i have tasted, hands down.

are they grafting those? or rooting them?

these white mulberries I got are not the easiest to root...only about 50% seem to take...unlike the common mulberries which are 80% successful or more.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on January 04, 2015, 05:34:08 PM
I believe they are grafted.   Will check and let you know.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: savemejebus on January 04, 2015, 06:16:42 PM
My kids love mulberries to the point that I rarely get to eat any. We have two mulberry trees which was a mistake as they get huge. We also have a dwarf mulberry bush that is pretty much everbearing (black fruit). Are there any other dwarfing varieties that do well in containers? The one we have is kept at just 2 - 3 feet tall and is always loaded with mulberries.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: gunnar429 on January 04, 2015, 08:22:52 PM
back at it again...I'm on a mulberry mission...

just planted a pair of white mulberries today....

i've noticed that this variety (i know there are several white mulberry varieties) has the most beautiful shape when the tree grows.  It is very well behaved, and not as shrubby as some of the common types I've seen...I wish I had a pic of the mother tree....it was the prettiest mulberry tree I've seen.

does anyone have any exciting info about mulberries?

I'm ready to expand my collection...so this is a subject of interest to me now.  I finally have space to plant!

on a side note, there is another mulberry tree that grows along a canal in the Winter Park FL area....it must be 50 yrs old the trunk is like an oak tree....but I remember the fruit being excellent...much better than the other trees I've tasted locally.  Fruits were not very large, and you could eat them slightly early without being too acidic.  I will have to get cuttings again while the tree is dormant.

Not sure if it was mentioned on this thread yet, but do yourself a favor next time you go to F&S park, and get cuttings of the tree labeled:  Himalayan mulberry.  Chris was unsure of the label when I asked him, but nevertheless, it is the best I have eaten besides the green mulberry.  It can be eaten while still whitish pink, and has mostly sweet flavor.  It is also fairly long like the pakistani type(s).  It is in the middle of the mulberry thicket, just to the right of the pakistani tree if your back is to the waterfall.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ben mango on January 04, 2015, 08:29:35 PM
 white mulberries are superior to other mulberries i have tasted. they are so nutritious that you can survive off them as a staple food for months at a time - read this in the world was my garden by david fairchild
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Sleepdoc on January 04, 2015, 08:35:54 PM
I believe they are grafted.   Will check and let you know.

I picked one up from Excalibur last year and it was grafted.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ben mango on January 04, 2015, 08:49:44 PM
Frankie's nursery on Oahu does air layers on his white mulberry
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on January 16, 2015, 06:35:05 PM
Planted 3 "giant mulberry" plants today, they were about 5-6 ft tall, with fruit all over them...I thought they can handle wet feet so I planted one in an area that forms a big puddle....

Like a fool, I decided to research mulberry flood tolerance after I planted the trees...and I found some information that suggested they wouldn't tolerate such conditions (with the exception of the red mulberry perhaps)....

I assume the giant mulberry being Morus nigra, would appreciate soil that drains well....so I dug up the plant....which was like pulling a sack of potatoes out of wet concrete..I'm lucky the rootball didn't rip off entirely.

now i have it replanted in a drier spot..ready to plant more mulberries ASAP!

I think i might try to plant the native Red types in the wet spots...I really want to plant something to suck up the water, and to take advantage of an area that's too wet for most crops.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: nullzero on January 16, 2015, 06:37:30 PM
Planted 3 "giant mulberry" plants today, they were about 5-6 ft tall, with fruit all over them...I thought they can handle wet feet so I planted one in an area that forms a big puddle....

Like a fool, I decided to research mulberry flood tolerance after I planted the trees...and I found some information that suggested they wouldn't tolerate such conditions (with the exception of the red mulberry perhaps)....

I assume the giant mulberry being Morus nigra, would appreciate soil that drains well....so I dug up the plant....which was like pulling a sack of potatoes out of wet concrete..I'm lucky the rootball didn't rip off entirely.

now i have it replanted in a drier spot..ready to plant more mulberries ASAP!

I think i might try to plant the native Red types in the wet spots...I really want to plant something to suck up the water, and to take advantage of an area that's too wet for most crops.

Adam,

How about Pawpaws in the wet spot? (They don't like completely waterlogged soil, according to online resources). Maybe try a grafted experimental grafts of Annona on A. globiflora?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on January 16, 2015, 06:39:47 PM
Planted 3 "giant mulberry" plants today, they were about 5-6 ft tall, with fruit all over them...I thought they can handle wet feet so I planted one in an area that forms a big puddle....

Like a fool, I decided to research mulberry flood tolerance after I planted the trees...and I found some information that suggested they wouldn't tolerate such conditions (with the exception of the red mulberry perhaps)....

I assume the giant mulberry being Morus nigra, would appreciate soil that drains well....so I dug up the plant....which was like pulling a sack of potatoes out of wet concrete..I'm lucky the rootball didn't rip off entirely.

now i have it replanted in a drier spot..ready to plant more mulberries ASAP!

I think i might try to plant the native Red types in the wet spots...I really want to plant something to suck up the water, and to take advantage of an area that's too wet for most crops.

Adam,

How about Pawpaws in the wet spot?

yes for sure!  but i'd be limited to  parviflora...which is not the best tasting fruit..oh well will plant some this year any how...I'm still looking for more flood tolerant crops, that are cold hearty...but that is a different thread....lol.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: nullzero on January 16, 2015, 06:44:07 PM
Planted 3 "giant mulberry" plants today, they were about 5-6 ft tall, with fruit all over them...I thought they can handle wet feet so I planted one in an area that forms a big puddle....

Like a fool, I decided to research mulberry flood tolerance after I planted the trees...and I found some information that suggested they wouldn't tolerate such conditions (with the exception of the red mulberry perhaps)....

I assume the giant mulberry being Morus nigra, would appreciate soil that drains well....so I dug up the plant....which was like pulling a sack of potatoes out of wet concrete..I'm lucky the rootball didn't rip off entirely.

now i have it replanted in a drier spot..ready to plant more mulberries ASAP!

I think i might try to plant the native Red types in the wet spots...I really want to plant something to suck up the water, and to take advantage of an area that's too wet for most crops.

Adam,

How about Pawpaws in the wet spot?

yes for sure!  but i'd be limited to  parviflora...which is not the best tasting fruit..oh well will plant some this year any how...I'm still looking for more flood tolerant crops, that are cold hearty...but that is a different thread....lol.

Might be a good location for a Taro patch? Found an article that said Diospyros virginiana had good flood tolerance. I know there was some D. virginiana selections that were reported to be good, no idea how much chill hours would be needed to set fruit.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on January 16, 2015, 06:52:06 PM
thanks nullz!

check the discussion for the topic about plants that can take wet feet!
I'm ready to rehash this subject for 2015

Planted 3 "giant mulberry" plants today, they were about 5-6 ft tall, with fruit all over them...I thought they can handle wet feet so I planted one in an area that forms a big puddle....

Like a fool, I decided to research mulberry flood tolerance after I planted the trees...and I found some information that suggested they wouldn't tolerate such conditions (with the exception of the red mulberry perhaps)....

I assume the giant mulberry being Morus nigra, would appreciate soil that drains well....so I dug up the plant....which was like pulling a sack of potatoes out of wet concrete..I'm lucky the rootball didn't rip off entirely.

now i have it replanted in a drier spot..ready to plant more mulberries ASAP!

I think i might try to plant the native Red types in the wet spots...I really want to plant something to suck up the water, and to take advantage of an area that's too wet for most crops.

Adam,

How about Pawpaws in the wet spot?

yes for sure!  but i'd be limited to  parviflora...which is not the best tasting fruit..oh well will plant some this year any how...I'm still looking for more flood tolerant crops, that are cold hearty...but that is a different thread....lol.

Might be a good location for a Taro patch? Found an article that said Diospyros virginiana had good flood tolerance. I know there was some D. virginiana selections that were reported to be good, no idea how much chill hours would be needed to set fruit.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Zafra on January 16, 2015, 07:10:00 PM
Persian mulberries are indeed delicious, but unfortunately don't do well in tropical areas. There are only a few mulberries that do well in warm climates. So this is something to keep in mind when choosing your mulberry.
Which are the cultivars that do well in warm climates?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: SocalKoop on January 16, 2015, 07:13:55 PM
IMO You can’t beat an honest Morus Nigra (Persian) for its bright sweet/tart flavor.  I make pies out of them when slightly underripe that would rival cane berries easily for taste (if a little toooo juicy).     Mine only get ripe fruit 2-3 weeks  out of the year... but it produces so much at that time the tree is basically a berry sculpture. :)  Stains everything.. especially your hands. :)

The "long" berry types always seem to be a version of Alba, which just don't taste as good to myself, although still pleasant (by which I mean "mild").
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: TnTrobbie on February 02, 2015, 12:19:59 PM
I have a Everbearing and I love it. While it appears to be low on the Mulberry totem poll, can anyone who tasted "Tice" and Giant Mulberry (not sure if it's "FL Giant" or just "Giant", or they are one in the same) have any tart component when fully ripe? I'm not a fan of tart. Some feedback will be apprecieated :). Also, are either suitable for container life (25-45 gal w/ pruning).
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on February 02, 2015, 02:08:14 PM
I have a Everbearing and I love it. While it appears to be low on the Mulberry totem poll, can anyone who tasted "Tice" and Giant Mulberry (not sure if it's "FL Giant" or just "Giant", or they are one in the same) have any tart component when fully ripe? I'm not a fan of tart. Some feedback will be apprecieated :). Also, are either suitable for container life (25-45 gal w/ pruning).

I have eaten many Tice.  They are pretty much on the sweet side when fully deep purple black ripe.

In my opinion, you cannot beat the green mulberry in terms of sweetness with absolutely zero tart component.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on February 02, 2015, 02:42:23 PM
I have a Everbearing and I love it. While it appears to be low on the Mulberry totem poll, can anyone who tasted "Tice" and Giant Mulberry (not sure if it's "FL Giant" or just "Giant", or they are one in the same) have any tart component when fully ripe? I'm not a fan of tart. Some feedback will be apprecieated :). Also, are either suitable for container life (25-45 gal w/ pruning).

I have eaten many Tice.  They are pretty much on the sweet side when fully deep purple black ripe.

In my opinion, you cannot beat the green mulberry in terms of sweetness with absolutely zero tart component.

Agreed, the white var. is quite sweet...melon type flavor. White varieties have a good advantage...as them birds don't know when they are ripe, compared with the black varieties, which they wipe out quick as they ripen.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on February 02, 2015, 02:48:24 PM
mulberries fruit on new wood, so it's ok to prune them yearly, and you can prune heavily!

the biggest challenge growing in a pot will be keeping the roots from growing out of the container...and from growing into the ground....or becoming root bound.

You will most likely have to prune the roots every few years, once you get up to a 15 or 25 gal pot...this will help you keep the tree at small size, and in a pot for a longer duration.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on February 03, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
Picked up some new mulberries...i think the plants came from Excalibur indirectly, one called peruvian,and one called australian...

any info on these types?

thanks!
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on February 03, 2015, 05:46:43 PM
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12985.msg165123#msg165123 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12985.msg165123#msg165123)

ok found a little info about Australian...now any info on peruvian?

thanks a bunch in advance to any who contribute.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on February 03, 2015, 06:15:35 PM
If they came from Excalibur,  someone else gave them those names.  Excalibur does not have any varieties wifh eigher of those names.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on February 03, 2015, 06:32:47 PM
If they came from Excalibur,  someone else gave them those names.  Excalibur does not have any varieties wifh eigher of those names.

thanks for the info!  my only guess is PIN.

is this the same variety that excalibur sells, but with a different name?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on February 03, 2015, 10:28:24 PM
If they came from PIN, the origin is most likely F&S Park.

I will see what info I can find on Excalibur's green mulberry.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: greenman62 on February 04, 2015, 05:47:12 PM
i LOVE mulberries

a few years ago, i had a tree volunteer itself in my yard
i had no idea what it was, but, i needed something to shade the house from the sun there...
i let it grow and found it was a mulberry.
the fruit was pretty poor, but, i figured i hadnt paid any attention to it,
so, i pruned it, and fed it
the next year, it produced wonderful fruit.
pretty sure its a RED, they are the supposed wild ones here.

Now, i want something to graft to it.
i have someone sending me  PAK cuttings

they are also sending (i hope) cuttings from the "native" mulberry
which they say is everbearing ???
(They are in Fla)

i would like to root 2 of the cuttings
and graft the rest to my tree.

is this possible ? to root cuttings from a Pakistan rtee ?

also...
if anyone has a tasty black i can get some cuttings from
i can pay shipping. (or trade -  i have other stuff too)

My Red is 20ft tall, i can graft a lot to it.

the PIC is of a cutting i rooted from my RED
its in a greenhouse and is flowering / fruiting now
its about 1 ft tall!

cheers
Brad




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Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ScottR on February 04, 2015, 08:38:53 PM
Yes, Pakistan can be rooted easily. Black Persian is the one I haven't been able to start from cuttings. ;)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on February 04, 2015, 09:02:32 PM
Yes, Pakistan can be rooted easily. Black Persian is the one I haven't been able to start from cuttings. ;)

try airlayering your black persian!  i think it might work better than cuttings.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ScottR on February 05, 2015, 10:30:17 PM
There's an idea I've never thought about thanks Adam, great suggestion I'll have to give that a try in late Spring. I glad you mention it because I'm about to prune that dude and now I'll leave some limps to try air layering on! The Blk. Persian doesn't put on leaves until mid spring very late to come out. ;) 8)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Central Floridave on February 06, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
For a TICE update, my mulberry came out of winter dormancy last week (early Feb/2015) .  I severely hacked it back while it was dormant to try to keep the size of it to around ten feet.   It was just a ugly stick tree for a couple months and dropped all its leaf.  Now it has flushed out with new growth and flowers!   
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: starling1 on February 06, 2015, 06:14:45 PM
We obviously have different names for the fruits than you, but the Red Dwarf Shahtoot is a winner for me. I find the King White Shahtoot to be insipid - without any real flavour, just a watery honey taste. I also love the big old standard English Mulberry with more complexity - many newer selections are just sweet.

Agreed. Red dwarf shahtoot is pretty much the perfect mulberry, I find mine more slow growing than the dwarf black however.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: funlul on February 24, 2015, 06:43:24 PM
Dear all, I never thought about planting a mulberry tree until reading about them here! So tempted. What variety do you recommend for SoCal zone 10b San Gabriel Valley, dwarf and non-staining? Many thanks!!!
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: TheDom on February 24, 2015, 08:13:24 PM
Somehow I stumbled upon the tag for that black mulberry I'd posted before from ECHO. They had it labeled as "Everbearing".
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: funlul on February 24, 2015, 10:40:47 PM
Persian mulberries are indeed delicious, but unfortunately don't do well in tropical areas. There are only a few mulberries that do well in warm climates. So this is something to keep in mind when choosing your mulberry.
zone 10 recommendations... please? I believe I mostly see dark red and black varieties, not sure if they stain. I'll have to plant it close to driveway so staining is big no...
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on February 24, 2015, 10:46:54 PM
Persian mulberries are indeed delicious, but unfortunately don't do well in tropical areas. There are only a few mulberries that do well in warm climates. So this is something to keep in mind when choosing your mulberry.
zone 10 recommendations... please? I believe I mostly see dark red and black varieties, not sure if they stain. I'll have to plant it close to driveway so staining is big no...

Your best choice is the green mulberry. ..not only will it not stain but the flavor is top quality.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: mangomaniac2 on February 24, 2015, 10:48:25 PM
We obviously have different names for the fruits than you, but the Red Dwarf Shahtoot is a winner for me. I find the King White Shahtoot to be insipid - without any real flavour, just a watery honey taste. I also love the big old standard English Mulberry with more complexity - many newer selections are just sweet.

Agreed. Red dwarf shahtoot is pretty much the perfect mulberry, I find mine more slow growing than the dwarf black however.
Do these taste any different than a Pakistan mulberry? I had one of those but lost it early on while the pakistan remains.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: funlul on February 24, 2015, 11:08:48 PM
Persian mulberries are indeed delicious, but unfortunately don't do well in tropical areas. There are only a few mulberries that do well in warm climates. So this is something to keep in mind when choosing your mulberry.
zone 10 recommendations... please? I believe I mostly see dark red and black varieties, not sure if they stain. I'll have to plant it close to driveway so staining is big no...

Your best choice is the green mulberry. ..not only will it not stain but the flavor is top quality.

Thank you very much! Under what names is green mulberry available?
I had my eyes on white mulberry (morus alba)... Is zone 10 too warm for it to fruit well?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on February 26, 2015, 12:03:13 AM
Yes, what is this "green" Variety called?  I want to get one.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: starling1 on February 26, 2015, 01:33:24 AM
We obviously have different names for the fruits than you, but the Red Dwarf Shahtoot is a winner for me. I find the King White Shahtoot to be insipid - without any real flavour, just a watery honey taste. I also love the big old standard English Mulberry with more complexity - many newer selections are just sweet.

Agreed. Red dwarf shahtoot is pretty much the perfect mulberry, I find mine more slow growing than the dwarf black however.
Do these taste any different than a Pakistan mulberry? I had one of those but lost it early on while the pakistan remains.


I couldn't say having never tried that Pakistan mulberry. I guess they would be different as shahtoot are thai I believe.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: TnTrobbie on March 10, 2015, 02:33:08 PM
The past couple of days, I've been picking 7-8 mullberries a day off my Everbearing tree. I'm tempted to get another one considering the price I paid for it. Instant gratification and when picked properly, the fruits are sweet. Saw a lone Peruvian specimen today at a local nursery. A lone stalk that was long and whippy. The leaves were smaller than Tice but 2-2.5x the size of Everbearing. I wish there was more info avaliable on it.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: franciscu on March 10, 2015, 06:29:59 PM
I recently bought a green mulberry 3 gallon size tree. It had three immature green mulberries on it. I bought it taste-unseen because of the high praise I read about here. The three little mulberries finally matured and I got to taste it. I guess I prefer more intense, complicated flavors because these left me totally uninspired. Very mild, no sharpness or complexity, some kind of greeny undertaste - sort of like sweet lettuce or something. Since it is so small I'll give it a year to prove to me that it's worth keeping.

Sorry, just my 2 cents....
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on March 10, 2015, 07:08:18 PM
I did some reaearch.

The variety of green mulberry that is "all the rage" in flavor is the "Australian."

It is green/white, tastes like honey dew melon, very large/long berries, and very rare and hard to find.

Of course, I found one and it is in order.  ;)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: funlul on March 10, 2015, 07:20:30 PM
... very rare and hard to find. Of course, I found one and it is in order.  ;)

Cough cough cough
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on March 11, 2015, 01:47:20 AM
 ;D

It was an earned find.  Haha
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 11, 2015, 01:55:02 AM
where did u get the tree??

I recently bought a green mulberry 3 gallon size tree. It had three immature green mulberries on it. I bought it taste-unseen because of the high praise I read about here. The three little mulberries finally matured and I got to taste it. I guess I prefer more intense, complicated flavors because these left me totally uninspired. Very mild, no sharpness or complexity, some kind of greeny undertaste - sort of like sweet lettuce or something. Since it is so small I'll give it a year to prove to me that it's worth keeping.

Sorry, just my 2 cents....
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on March 11, 2015, 02:06:50 AM
I will pm you.  There are only a couple left.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: franciscu on March 11, 2015, 09:59:48 AM
where did u get the tree??

I recently bought a green mulberry 3 gallon size tree. It had three immature green mulberries on it. I bought it taste-unseen because of the high praise I read about here. The three little mulberries finally matured and I got to taste it. I guess I prefer more intense, complicated flavors because these left me totally uninspired. Very mild, no sharpness or complexity, some kind of greeny undertaste - sort of like sweet lettuce or something. Since it is so small I'll give it a year to prove to me that it's worth keeping.

Sorry, just my 2 cents....

From Excalibur. I love that place. It's just that this green mulberry cultivar and my particular taste processor don't seem to jive.

In general, I believe that individuals simply sense things differently. What one person may sense as fabulous (whether it be taste, sound, feel, smell, or sight) might come across as insipid to another. It's partially due to genetics, I think. That's why it's so hard to ever arrive at consensus.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: fisherking73 on March 11, 2015, 10:15:50 AM


From Excalibur. I love that place. It's just that this green mulberry cultivar and my particular taste processor don't seem to jive.

In general, I believe that individuals simply sense things differently. What one person may sense as fabulous (whether it be taste, sound, feel, smell, or sight) might come across as insipid to another. It's partially due to genetics, I think. That's why it's so hard to ever arrive at consensus.
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AGREE! I was recently there, must have eaten close to 50 mulberries trying to find the one I liked. Tried em due to same, hearing so much about them. First one was very bland and thought "thats it?"  Kept plucking down the row, and then wham got kicked in the mouth, and found the one for me. Tice, Trice or thrice, forgot the exact name. But then of course, it was hard to find one in smaller container as this was from one of the big trees.  AND now its in my backyard, but not doing so hot. Not sure what went wrong with it. I did transplant to a bigger pot as the pot it was in was an aero pot thing and it was a mess.  So if it lives I will be happy, if it dies, worse $65 I have spent and will be the first plant I have not been able to keep alive.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on March 11, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
When you purchased the green mulberry did you not know what the flavor profile was?  It has been discussed on this forum a number of times.  It is not supposed to have any acidity or sharp contrasting flavors.   While i dont know if what you ate off the little tree you purchaed was truly ready to be picked (when properly ripened they do not have a taste as you described ).  They should be a dirty off white color when ready, no green coloration at all. When properly ripened. They have the taste similar to a honeydew melon.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on March 11, 2015, 11:41:55 AM
Rob hit the nail on the head.  You likely ate one that wasn't ready--especially if solid green.

Fisherking, Mulberrys are finicky in pots if rootbound and after transplanting.  Best care involves stumping them at a few inches and then selecting 2 to 3 primary and evenly spread new growths a few months later.  Then stump those a foot or two off the ground like you would a rose bush preseason.

Now, you'll have a balanced and healthy mulberry bush.  You can tree them on a single as well, but will take them much longer to establish.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Sam on March 11, 2015, 12:39:24 PM
All this great conversation about mulberries!!

How do they do in a truly tropical environment?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: franciscu on March 11, 2015, 01:58:16 PM
When you purchased the green mulberry did you not know what the flavor profile was?  It has been discussed on this forum a number of times.  It is not supposed to have any acidity or sharp contrasting flavors.   While i dont know if what you ate off the little tree you purchaed was truly ready to be picked (when properly ripened they do not have a taste as you described ).  They should be a dirty off white color when ready, no green coloration at all. When properly ripened. They have the taste similar to a honeydew melon.

The first one I tried did have the dirty kinda off-white color. The berry was slightly plump too, so I do believe it was ripe. It was very underwhelming, I hate to say. I was disappointed for sure. On subsequent days I went with less ripe berries - experimenting to find out whether there was any 'tang' to be had earlier in the ripening curve. No go...

I'm sure that this is one of those personal taste things - some folks like Zinfandel, others prefer Chianti. Also, the tree is so small and I want to keep it for at least a year so as to give it a fair chance. But I expect I'll be wanting to replace it with a mulberry which has the most pizazz.

BTW, on the same day I also brought home a Tice from Excalibur. Much better.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 11, 2015, 02:03:23 PM
if you ever are in the area and want to trade for your tree, I'll take it.

I already have this one I think, but could use another.

I just love mulberries...all of them.

When you purchased the green mulberry did you not know what the flavor profile was?  It has been discussed on this forum a number of times.  It is not supposed to have any acidity or sharp contrasting flavors.   While i dont know if what you ate off the little tree you purchaed was truly ready to be picked (when properly ripened they do not have a taste as you described ).  They should be a dirty off white color when ready, no green coloration at all. When properly ripened. They have the taste similar to a honeydew melon.

The first one I tried did have the dirty kinda off-white color. The berry was slightly plump too, so I do believe it was ripe. It was very underwhelming, I hate to say. I was disappointed for sure. On subsequent days I went with less ripe berries - experimenting to find out whether there was any 'tang' to be had earlier in the ripening curve. No go...

I'm sure that this is one of those personal taste things - some folks like Zinfandel, others prefer Chianti. Also, the tree is so small and I want to keep it for at least a year so as to give it a fair chance. But I expect I'll be wanting to replace it with a mulberry which has the most pizazz.

BTW, on the same day I also brought home a Tice from Excalibur. Much better.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: jackedfruit on March 11, 2015, 02:08:40 PM
What are your thoughts on 'Illinois Everbearing', I've got a few cuttings and was thinking about grafting them to M.rubra rootstock.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 11, 2015, 03:07:34 PM
its a good one!

why not just root them?

grafting would be fun though!
What are your thoughts on 'Illinois Everbearing', I've got a few cuttings and was thinking about grafting them to M.rubra rootstock.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: jackedfruit on March 11, 2015, 03:19:01 PM
its a good one!

why not just root them?

grafting would be fun though!

Maybe I will root some but I have a few potted rubras I don't know what to do with so I figured some grafting practice would be nice.

Do you have any experience using M.alba as rootstock? Have a few of those too, maybe I'll do a side by side test ruba/alba.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on March 11, 2015, 04:15:49 PM
When you purchased the green mulberry did you not know what the flavor profile was?  It has been discussed on this forum a number of times.  It is not supposed to have any acidity or sharp contrasting flavors.   While i dont know if what you ate off the little tree you purchaed was truly ready to be picked (when properly ripened they do not have a taste as you described ).  They should be a dirty off white color when ready, no green coloration at all. When properly ripened. They have the taste similar to a honeydew melon.

The first one I tried did have the dirty kinda off-white color. The berry was slightly plump too, so I do believe it was ripe. It was very underwhelming, I hate to say. I was disappointed for sure. On subsequent days I went with less ripe berries - experimenting to find out whether there was any 'tang' to be had earlier in the ripening curve. No go...

I'm sure that this is one of those personal taste things - some folks like Zinfandel, others prefer Chianti. Also, the tree is so small and I want to keep it for at least a year so as to give it a fair chance. But I expect I'll be wanting to replace it with a mulberry which has the most pizazz.

BTW, on the same day I also brought home a Tice from Excalibur. Much better.

Could very well be a personal thing.  Many love the green however there are some I have helped that did not like it and wanted one f the purple varieties.

Can you please post a picture of the leaves and trunk/branches of the Tice.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on March 11, 2015, 05:15:10 PM
Did you happen to check the variety?

It is possible you tried a white or a pakistani--neither of which have the tartness expected from a berry.  They are just lightly sweet.  The Australian is very notable in flavor.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: franciscu on March 11, 2015, 07:17:48 PM
Thanks, I will keep your offer in mind. You are up in Central Florida I see.


if you ever are in the area and want to trade for your tree, I'll take it.

I already have this one I think, but could use another.

I just love mulberries...all of them.

When you purchased the green mulberry did you not know what the flavor profile was?  It has been discussed on this forum a number of times.  It is not supposed to have any acidity or sharp contrasting flavors.   While i dont know if what you ate off the little tree you purchaed was truly ready to be picked (when properly ripened they do not have a taste as you described ).  They should be a dirty off white color when ready, no green coloration at all. When properly ripened. They have the taste similar to a honeydew melon.

The first one I tried did have the dirty kinda off-white color. The berry was slightly plump too, so I do believe it was ripe. It was very underwhelming, I hate to say. I was disappointed for sure. On subsequent days I went with less ripe berries - experimenting to find out whether there was any 'tang' to be had earlier in the ripening curve. No go...

I'm sure that this is one of those personal taste things - some folks like Zinfandel, others prefer Chianti. Also, the tree is so small and I want to keep it for at least a year so as to give it a fair chance. But I expect I'll be wanting to replace it with a mulberry which has the most pizazz.

BTW, on the same day I also brought home a Tice from Excalibur. Much better.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: franciscu on March 11, 2015, 07:20:58 PM
The tags are still on the trees, I think. I'll see if I can post a photo tomorrow.

Did you happen to check the variety?

It is possible you tried a white or a pakistani--neither of which have the tartness expected from a berry.  They are just lightly sweet.  The Australian is very notable in flavor.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Central Floridave on March 12, 2015, 08:20:40 AM
My very tasty TICE are ripe now!
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Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: franciscu on March 13, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
The tags are still on the trees, I think. I'll see if I can post a photo tomorrow.

The 'green mulberry' has the tag. The one without a tag is the Tice.

Did you happen to check the variety?

It is possible you tried a white or a pakistani--neither of which have the tartness expected from a berry.  They are just lightly sweet.  The Australian is very notable in flavor.
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Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on March 13, 2015, 02:42:45 PM
There's your problem.

The tag just says green mulberry, but those are the leaves of a green pakistani.  Almost no flavor at all.  They will also turn color if left on the tree long enough.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on March 13, 2015, 02:50:48 PM
There's your problem.

The tag just says green mulberry, but those are the leaves of a green pakistani.  Almost no flavor at all.  They will also turn color if left on the tree long enough.

No it is not...trust me.  They do not turn any color past off white, other than rotting and falling off.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on March 13, 2015, 03:01:54 PM
There's your problem.

The tag just says green mulberry, but those are the leaves of a green pakistani.  Almost no flavor at all.  They will also turn color if left on the tree long enough.

No it is not...trust me.  They do not turn any color past off white, other than rotting and falling off.

It is a small photo for my phone, but looks like a pakistani to me, and they will turn reddish white before dropping.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: bsbullie on March 13, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
There's your problem.

The tag just says green mulberry, but those are the leaves of a green pakistani.  Almost no flavor at all.  They will also turn color if left on the tree long enough.

No it is not...trust me.  They do not turn any color past off white, other than rotting and falling off.

It is a small photo for my phone, but looks like a pakistani to me, and they will turn reddish white before dropping.

It is not the Pakistani and they will not turn red.  How do I know, I have been eating them for years and I work there.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on March 13, 2015, 03:36:03 PM
There's your problem.

The tag just says green mulberry, but those are the leaves of a green pakistani.  Almost no flavor at all.  They will also turn color if left on the tree long enough.

No it is not...trust me.  They do not turn any color past off white, other than rotting and falling off.

It is a small photo for my phone, but looks like a pakistani to me, and they will turn reddish white before dropping.

It is not the Pakistani and they will not turn red.  How do I know, I have been eating them for years and I work there.

Ah, so you actually work where he bought the green mulberry?  If that is the case, then they'd have to be aussies based on the description and flavor you mentioned.  That would mean he either got a dud fruit off the big tree, or just tried one that wasn't ready.  That'll be good news for him when the little tree matures and he gets to enjoy the delicious melon taste.  Thanks for clarifying Rob.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ClayMango on April 15, 2015, 02:56:33 PM
I did some reaearch.

The variety of green mulberry that is "all the rage" in flavor is the "Australian."

It is green/white, tastes like honey dew melon, very large/long berries, and very rare and hard to find.

Of course, I found one and it is in order.  ;)

I believe this is also known as the "White Pakistan" or "King Shatoot" from other reports....seems like there is a ton of mislabeling and renaming in the Mulberry varieties especially from different regions... From the reports I've read, The red Pakistan or "Himalayan", especially LE Cookes Select Pakistan is much better than the Green/White Pakistan...

I'm hunting for the Cookes Pakistan but have only found large size trees locally... Number one on my list is Morus Nigras which are held by many of the Mulberry Gurus as the most explosive in Flavor with incredible sweetness plus acidity to match... Noir De Spain from Whitmans Nursery (I love Lucille) is going to be mine!!!
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: michsu on April 15, 2015, 03:00:55 PM
Is this what you are looking for, ClayMango?

http://www.logees.com/dwarf-mulberry-dwarf-everbearing-morus-nigra.html (http://www.logees.com/dwarf-mulberry-dwarf-everbearing-morus-nigra.html)

http://www.treesofantiquity.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=277 (http://www.treesofantiquity.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=277)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ClayMango on April 15, 2015, 03:14:36 PM
Is this what you are looking for, ClayMango?

http://www.logees.com/dwarf-mulberry-dwarf-everbearing-morus-nigra.html (http://www.logees.com/dwarf-mulberry-dwarf-everbearing-morus-nigra.html)

http://www.treesofantiquity.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=277 (http://www.treesofantiquity.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=277)


Morus Nigra...terrible labeling that seems to also cause tremendous confusion....In most cases "I think" Morus Nigra classifies Mulberries into the dark colored Mulberry category such as the Black Persian, Black beauty, and Noir De Spain...all Morus Nigras. The ones you linked dont really fall under the others as they are not dwarfs... Black Persian and Noir De Spain reach up 30-40ft, Black Beauty is the most Dwarfish coming in at 15-20 ft.... but again I believe Morus Nigra is just classifying them as dark Berries....same as Morus Alba's being white.

A link to some of the varietites out there. 
http://www.whitmanfarms.com/category/allplants/edible-plants/mulberries/ (http://www.whitmanfarms.com/category/allplants/edible-plants/mulberries/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on April 15, 2015, 08:40:55 PM
Green Pak isn't the same as Green Aussie.

I already had the Pak and when my Aussie arrived they look very different.  Will hopefully get to see the fruit differences within a year from my home grown.  Although I've eaten them from other sources and they both taste very different.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ClayMango on April 15, 2015, 09:06:27 PM
Green Pak isn't the same as Green Aussie.

I already had the Pak and when my Aussie arrived they look very different.  Will hopefully get to see the fruit differences within a year from my home grown.  Although I've eaten them from other sources and they both taste very different.


Which one tastes better?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on April 15, 2015, 09:18:29 PM
Aussie is better to me, but timing seems to help as tastes were variable.

Rob said they have some at Excal you can try.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: jabotica on April 15, 2015, 10:38:01 PM
I want to try more variaties,but I just made a mulberry pie from a potted mulberry
label Thai from excaliber. A fast growing tree. It was as good as any I had when I was
a kid in Palm Beach in the 1940s
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ClayMango on April 15, 2015, 10:54:00 PM
I want to try more variaties,but I just made a mulberry pie from a potted mulberry
label Thai from excaliber. A fast growing tree. It was as good as any I had when I was
a kid in Palm Beach in the 1940s

I'm the same way! I have only had the dark colored Pakistan, which had an incredible ultrasweet Rasberry Flavor without the horrible Rasberry seeds... Will definitely be buying an Improved Cookes selection Pakistan from LE Cookes... But I'm stoked about the Noir De Spain I just ordered more than anything... According to some people, they consider the Morus Albas bland or just sweet tasting to some of the Nigras such as Black Persian...well I fell in love with the Morus Alba Pakistan...I can only imagine what Persian or Noir De Spain taste like which is supposedly packed with sweetness and acidity which all the Albas lack.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: greenman62 on April 16, 2015, 06:59:22 AM
are there named varieties of Morus Rubra ?

I have one that showed up in my yard, i thought it was a "trash tree",
 i was going to keep it for shading that side of the house, only to find out
it is a mulberry. I started taking care of it and the fruit started tasting better.

I went to Wall Mart yesterday to see 3 of them in the parking lot
all 3 had ripe fruit. It seems about 1/2 taste  insipid, watery/bland,
but the others seem pretty good, not great, but OK

So now i am not %100 sure mine is the wild local red
as mine havent started to ripen,, and they taste better.
or, not as many insipid berries.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Viking Guy on April 16, 2015, 09:56:15 AM
Fruit grown in pots without the right supplements rarely ever tastes as good as when they're in the ground.

Pretty awesome planting a bird did for you there.  :D
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: lyubomir16 on April 16, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
We have those in Bulgaria too, I hope you can find someone with this type of mulberries.

Bulgarian mulberries.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 16, 2015, 10:57:04 AM
We have those in Bulgaria too, I hope you can find someone with this type of mulberries.

Bulgarian mulberries.

lol nice avatar

(http://s8.postimg.cc/43cjyuk1d/Freddie_Mercury_HQ_freddie_mercury_31872953_1200.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/43cjyuk1d/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: lyubomir16 on April 17, 2015, 04:20:55 AM
I am not such a big fan of Freddie, but I really like the mustache :D
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Waiting on April 17, 2015, 04:38:55 PM
Where in Bulgaria are you? I once spent a week in Varna. The climate seemed very similar to California. It happened to be cherry season when I was there.

gary
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on May 19, 2015, 03:35:19 PM
I recently got a few mulberries from Excalibur, one of them was named "Thai Dwarf" I believe...

I'm very impressed by the tree so far, fruits are large like Tice, but slightly firmer with a nice tart zing, and a delicious sweetness

I'm wondering if this is the right name?

And is the tree everbearing? Or does it make multiple crops?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on November 22, 2015, 03:13:33 PM
getting a nice fall crop on my mulbz...the green mulberry, and tice (and giant, which seems to be same as tice) are all starting to fruit...and now the Himalayan Red is throwing out a few fruit...I hope they fruit again this spring.

maybe this is the way to stimulate them to fruit several times per year...pruning them at the end of summer, or early fall, seems to be the trick.


(http://s12.postimg.cc/ycgu6til5/IMG_3313.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ycgu6til5/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: greenman62 on November 23, 2015, 09:40:14 AM
getting a nice fall crop on my mulbz...the green mulberry, and tice (and giant, which seems to be same as tice) are all starting to fruit...and now the Himalayan Red is throwing out a few fruit...I hope they fruit again this spring.

maybe this is the way to stimulate them to fruit several times per year...pruning them at the end of summer, or early fall, seems to be the trick.


(http://s12.postimg.cc/ycgu6til5/IMG_3313.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ycgu6til5/)

ive got one fruiting now.
i got the cuttings from someone here i think.
there are at least a dozen fruit on it.
the fruit are smal and black, a bit sweet and tart,
not nearly as complex as a  very ripe fruit from my red.

but, i am guessing since its only 6ft tall
and just started from a cutting in spring, this is not the final size or taste of the fruit.

(http://s14.postimg.cc/as8obflvx/mulb_frui_undev.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/as8obflvx/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: funlul on November 23, 2015, 06:05:18 PM
but, i am guessing since its only 6ft tall
and just started from a cutting in spring, this is not the final size or taste of the fruit.

Crazy growth for just over half a year!
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: raimeiken on November 24, 2015, 10:31:44 PM
Can these trees be kept small over the years? I've seen quite a few old ones in the valley here (non-fruiting type) that are monstrous and have lifted block walls and sidewalks. I'm planning on get a couple to plant in ground but I'm worried they'll do some damage in the future.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: gunnar429 on November 25, 2015, 07:53:10 AM
Can these trees be kept small over the years? I've seen quite a few old ones in the valley here (non-fruiting type) that are monstrous and have lifted block walls and sidewalks. I'm planning on get a couple to plant in ground but I'm worried they'll do some damage in the future.

I seem to have had good luck controlling size by whacking them back hard each year. 
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: fyliu on November 25, 2015, 05:10:17 PM
Can these trees be kept small over the years? I've seen quite a few old ones in the valley here (non-fruiting type) that are monstrous and have lifted block walls and sidewalks. I'm planning on get a couple to plant in ground but I'm worried they'll do some damage in the future.

I seem to have had good luck controlling size by whacking them back hard each year.
Or 4 or more times a year down to 3 ft. :)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: raimeiken on November 25, 2015, 05:11:32 PM
Can these trees be kept small over the years? I've seen quite a few old ones in the valley here (non-fruiting type) that are monstrous and have lifted block walls and sidewalks. I'm planning on get a couple to plant in ground but I'm worried they'll do some damage in the future.

I seem to have had good luck controlling size by whacking them back hard each year.

does that keep their main trunk from getting any girth over the years?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: gunnar429 on November 25, 2015, 08:47:46 PM
yeah, and they seem to fruit on new wood.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on January 16, 2016, 09:35:53 PM
it's mid Jan, and I'm still picking Australian (or Green) Mulberries!

also a few on the tice tree.

I didn't realize you can get more than one crop per year.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Grapebush on January 23, 2016, 07:58:43 PM
The other day, someone gave me some cuttings of an evergreen and everbearing variety, wich produces masses of berries of good size and taste, but I have no idea on the species, and/or variety. I think it's not Morus nigra, as from what I know, they're not evergreen.
Does anyone knows this?
They're very sweet in summer and in winter when there's less sun/heat available, they're a bit less good, but still ok, and great for making jam.
As you can see, the cuttings I'm rooting, are already setting fruit, even the small one (4th pic), that is about 5cm.


(http://s10.postimg.cc/ukh9ucnt1/WP_20160123_008.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ukh9ucnt1/)

(http://s10.postimg.cc/vba004q6d/WP_20160123_009.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/vba004q6d/)

(http://s10.postimg.cc/njta1km11/WP_20160123_011.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/njta1km11/)

(http://s10.postimg.cc/qf6d8fq11/WP_20160123_014.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/qf6d8fq11/)

(http://s10.postimg.cc/4u1akttad/WP_20160123_015.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/4u1akttad/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Sam on January 23, 2016, 08:58:30 PM
Are there any varieties which can fruit well in a truly tropical environment?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: gozp on January 24, 2016, 12:49:25 AM
Are there any varieties which can fruit well in a truly tropical environment?

My friend has a Morus Nigra in the Philippines & it fruits pretty well.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: TheDom on January 24, 2016, 11:06:08 PM
I've got an Australian and a Himalayan mulberry, and for some reason both were grafted. Does anyone know if these varieties don't do well on their own roots?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Waiting on January 24, 2016, 11:34:50 PM
Grafting insures your scion is female.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: TheDom on January 24, 2016, 11:47:37 PM
Grafting insures your scion is female.

I meant grafting as opposed to just taking a cutting from a known fruiting variety and just rooting it as is.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Waiting on January 25, 2016, 12:30:01 AM
Dave Wilson Nursery and L E Cooke both graft their mulberries, though they root figs. Maybe it's quicker (to get a saleable size tree) and more reliable. From California Rare Fruit Growers - "Softwood cuttings of white mulberries root easily when taken in midsummer and treated with rooting hormone. Red mulberries are less easily rooted. Black mulberries are also somewhat difficult to propagate since they tend to bleed a lot."
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: DimplesLee on January 25, 2016, 05:43:49 AM
Are there any varieties which can fruit well in a truly tropical environment?

Persian white mulberry is also becoming popular in the Phils - as a living fence/windbreak/drought forage crop in Farms. Don't know if it's a heavy bearer or not tho.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: raimeiken on April 02, 2016, 11:22:17 PM
anyone have cuttings/scions available of that green australian variety? would love to try and graft it onto my tree.  :)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: gunnar429 on April 03, 2016, 12:15:38 AM
anyone have cuttings/scions available of that green australian variety? would love to try and graft it onto my tree.  :)
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I could get you a few scions. May be a couple weeks before i get my a$$ in gear though.  :o
Pm me if interested
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 04, 2016, 12:16:33 AM
so far Thai Dwarf is one of the most impressive mulberries.

it seems to stay nice and compact.

fruit production is insane...the branches are being weighed down, and fruits are touching the ground.

the flavor is just what you'd expect from a nice black mulberry...and fruits are decent sized, like Tice....not bad when you eat them early too...they have nice tart zing, but sweet too.

(http://s18.postimg.cc/nc8cve47p/IMG_0180.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/nc8cve47p/)

(http://s18.postimg.cc/lj5g72j11/IMG_0181.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/lj5g72j11/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Waiting on April 04, 2016, 01:52:32 AM
^^^ How old is that tree?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: funlul on April 04, 2016, 06:48:17 PM
All three scions from February took, and the "white" black (not sure what it is) almost grows more vigorously than the rootstock (pakistani), and several fruits are hanging already.

I am hoping the other two scions, Noir de Spain and white pakistani, will pick up the momentum and not get overshadowed.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: raimeiken on April 04, 2016, 07:50:37 PM
Adam, that's an insane amount of berries on that thai variety!

Has anyone tried rooting cuttings? how easy is it? can green wood be rooted or only woody cuttings?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: greenman62 on April 05, 2016, 07:58:41 AM
Adam, that's an insane amount of berries on that thai variety!

Has anyone tried rooting cuttings? how easy is it? can green wood be rooted or only woody cuttings?
i have a few green ones that are putting out growth.
i dug 1 out,and didnt see roots yet though.

my reds generally do this first also.
they root easy as hell.
i had pruned the tree (large morus rubra) a few months ago,,
and was using some of the branches as supports for muscadines
and also as a short fence to keep my small dog out the garden.
at least 1/2 of them are sprouting new growth.
ive done this before and ended up with lots of little trees i had to dig up.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: funlul on April 05, 2016, 10:09:18 AM
ive done this before and ended up with lots of little trees i had to dig up.

OMG this is hilarious!


Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: DesertDreamer on April 06, 2016, 12:14:08 AM
Rooting percentage of cuttings varies dramatically by species (rubra>Alba>Nigra).  I have tried many times to get cuttings rooted, but I think we heat up too quickly here in AZ....dormant cuttings push growth before roots have begun to proliferate.  I get fooled into thinking I have 'finally done it', only to have growth wither and die and only small or no root growth once I investigate.  Seems rubra and hybrids have a much higher'take' rate, or so it seems based on what little data that I can find.  Seems most authors neglect to mention, or know/care, what species they are working with.
Would welcome any input people have on increasing rooting percentage with Nigra.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: Grapebush on April 18, 2016, 03:54:23 PM
Today I've found some mulberry trees for sale, but they were from a variety I've never seen before. It had some bizarre leaves compared to other varieties I know.
Does anyone knows this one? What species and variety is this?

(http://s3.postimg.cc/t1a1ova2n/WP_20160418_18_14_53_Pro.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/t1a1ova2n/)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: gozp on April 18, 2016, 04:23:52 PM
Any picturess of a Morus Nigra by dave wilson grown here (in the US)?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: raimeiken on March 18, 2017, 10:42:00 PM
Big thanks to gunnar429 for the scion he gave me last year. Here's a little progress video on how a small chip bud graft do in 7 months.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BOS2LmVgLu0/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BOS2LmVgLu0/)


and here it is today full of fruit!

(http://i.imgur.com/QoI6xdPh.jpg)
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: raimeiken on March 19, 2017, 06:03:01 PM
anyone growing Noir de Spain here? how does it taste like compare to Pakistan?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: behlgarden on March 20, 2017, 10:31:32 AM
Rooting percentage of cuttings varies dramatically by species (rubra>Alba>Nigra).  I have tried many times to get cuttings rooted, but I think we heat up too quickly here in AZ....dormant cuttings push growth before roots have begun to proliferate.  I get fooled into thinking I have 'finally done it', only to have growth wither and die and only small or no root growth once I investigate.  Seems rubra and hybrids have a much higher'take' rate, or so it seems based on what little data that I can find.  Seems most authors neglect to mention, or know/care, what species they are working with.
Would welcome any input people have on increasing rooting percentage with Nigra.

I got a successful take on 3 sticks. I dipped them into rooting hormone, cut into an angle at bottom, and then pushed them about 12 inches into the ground, no potting. time of planting was during during dormancy, right about now before it started to sprout. it took, but has not grown much, assuming it was busy establishing roots, I hope this year they would take off. I have this Nigra grafted one that I got 3 years ago and its a monster. I plan on cutting it down once my rooted one takes off this year. I want to keep it small manageable height. The one I got grafted was 7 feet tall with graft union at 5 feet, too high for my comfort.  Anyone want scions, PM me.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: ScottR on March 20, 2017, 11:02:58 AM
anyone growing Noir de Spain here? how does it taste like compare to Pakistan?
I have Noir de spain and it is just as tasty as my Black Persian mulberry! Also i have rooted m. Nigra but took a long time in shade almost nine months before they had roots also have done huge branch cutting just stuck in ground like Behl said! I do stick cutting that are in pot's into tree pot's which are tall, I stick 1' cutting into 80%pumice & 20%peat most with angle cut below leaf node and wound slice into cambium on opposite side and dip into rooting hormone. Leave two bud's above soil.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: funlul on March 20, 2017, 05:57:40 PM
I have Noir de spain and it is just as tasty as my Black Persian mulberry! Also i have rooted m. Nigra but took a long time in shade almost nine months before they had roots also have done huge branch cutting just stuck in ground like Behl said! I do stick cutting that are in pot's into tree pot's which are tall, I stick 1' cutting into 80%pumice & 20%peat most with angle cut below leaf node and wound slice into cambium on opposite side and dip into rooting hormone. Leave two bud's above soil.

Is noir de spain a late late grower? My multi-graft mulberry tree with white / pakistani / unknown etc. has completely leafed out except for this branch. Buds and all buds.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: shot on March 20, 2017, 06:48:30 PM
Thedom mulberry in our area are subject to nematodes. Being grafted to the right root stock can be life or death in the long run.Tice mulberry makes very good root stock or you could try and find over on peace rd some of the wild mulberry for root stock.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: roblack on March 20, 2017, 08:39:03 PM
Growing the Florida everbearing (either from PIN or Top), and it has been great thus far. In ground over a year now, constantly fruiting. Fruits are sour until they turn totally black; then they are almost entirely sweet. Like awesome blackberries without large seed hulls to chew through.

Just cut it all down to about 6 feet, and it started flowering more aggressively. Seems like you could chop it down small every year, keep it manageable, and reap delicious berries. Not planning on letting it get big.

Have been told by someone with several varieties that the best flavor is from the Illinois everbearing. Unfortunately, after I gave away all my extra cuttings, then mine bit the dust.
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: gozp on April 15, 2017, 05:50:49 PM
Does anyone know what kind of morus nigra variety does dave wilson nursery has?

I didnt like the taste no sweetnes detected but sour... its been in the ground for almost a year --this tree grows pretty quick....

was wondering if it has something to do with the maturity?


im looking to pug it & graft it to a better variety....

is it possible say for instance graft a persian to a morus nigra(dwarf)?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: EJO8 on April 15, 2017, 09:19:23 PM
Does anyone know what kind of morus nigra variety does dave wilson nursery has?

I didnt like the taste no sweetnes detected but sour... its been in the ground for almost a year --this tree grows pretty quick....

was wondering if it has something to do with the maturity?


im looking to pug it & graft it to a better variety....

is it possible say for instance graft a persian to a morus nigra(dwarf)?

I believe they have persian and black beauty.

the taste should be close to a blackberry, at what color are you picking them?
Title: Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
Post by: gozp on April 15, 2017, 09:45:49 PM
Does anyone know what kind of morus nigra variety does dave wilson nursery has?

I didnt like the taste no sweetnes detected but sour... its been in the ground for almost a year --this tree grows pretty quick....

was wondering if it has something to do with the maturity?


im looking to pug it & graft it to a better variety....

is it possible say for instance graft a persian to a morus nigra(dwarf)?

I believe they have persian and black beauty.

the taste should be close to a blackberry, at what color are you picking them?

I pick them.up when they are in the ground (dark black)