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I'm thinking of going to Vanuatu sometime in the future. If i do and can locate it, then will let you know.
The macnut has a much richer and sweeter taste and softer texture than the kukui (candle) nut here. There are so many thousands of trees here though growing wild that i wouldn't be surprised if some taste better than others. Almost nobody bothers to eat them here because we also have large macadamia plantations. Mostly it's pig food. And they really like them!

Thanks for the comparison. And please keep us posted on the matter, I'm keen to grow and propagate this type. I'm nuts for nuts in general.  ;D

Highly productive pig food, you say? Useful info, duly noted. I'll take this chance to plug an old thread on fruit as fodder:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21341.0;all

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing Rubus glaucous?
« on: January 03, 2020, 01:59:05 PM »
Thank you. Do you know how this Rubus tastes? How is the yeild?


OK thank you. How does Rubus probus taste like? There is a local one I have from South Sudan but the taste is unremarkable.

I have sown my seeds and put them in the fridge for a month or so, and we will see the results in due course.

I have noticed that both R. probus and R. glauca are in Stock with trade wind fruit.

R. rosifolius tastes like a milder version of R. probus (itself tasting like a milder version of domestic red raspberry), but where both are softer than domestic types, R. probus is juicier, and R. rosifolius is mealier. I consider it a decent berry, but it probably won't impress most folks with access to superior berries. If you can only grow one of the two, R. probus is considered superior to R. rosifolius.

Rubus niveus (Mysore Raspberry) is another tropical Bramble, with black raspberry type fruits. I haven't tasted it, so I don't know much about the flavor, but it's usually the first one people recommend.

If you like the domestic types, Caroline, Anne & Bababerry Raspberries grow well enough in the tropics, as do Domestic Black Raspberries. I'm trialling Wild Treasure & Prime Ark Freedom blackberries, and they're showing no signs of succumbing to the heat & humidity.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai Muk (Artocarpus sp.) Varieties
« on: January 03, 2020, 01:37:21 PM »
I have an isolated kwai muk tree that produces nice large fruits on its own and gets loaded with fruits.

I'd still like to try the scions as cuttings, if feasible. I haven't grafted yet, so I'm not very confident in my skills. That productive tree sounds like elite material indeed.

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I usually look up A. hypargyreus to find info on this Red Kwai Muk, not the common name. Botanical names tend to bring me more relevant info than common names, even when misapplied. I consider myself a stickler for correct nomenclature, but that won't do me good if I can't find information, so when posting here, I usually go the practical route: the correct name (if one has already been given), plus the misapplied names for the search engine to pick up, perhaps with a nomenclatural explanation for good measure.

My recommendation: stick cf in there. Artocarpus cf. hypargyreus. That way, folks like me (and apparently several others) will find this post when using the misapplied term, while making it clear that this is not a member of that species. "Confer with", meaning it frequently gets compared to a known distinct species. As an added bonus, we won't have to worry about the fact that it currently lacks a correct botanical name, having only a provisional one that will be removed soon enough.

If the concern is the lack of information available for the genuine hypargyreus (presumably because the red one keeps stealing its thunder), it's still a useful connection to make, as any dialogue involving the nomenclature of the red one will invite discussion on the white kwai muk as well, as you are doing now. It generates the attention, leading to information sharing even for the lesser known species.

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I'd probably have trouble with normal Inamona... I have poor sense of moderation when it comes to tasty condiments.  :P

They grow very well in bokeelia.My neighbor has a large tree they inherited from the original owner who was from Puerto Rico, planted in the early 90s ,been through cold ,hurricanes, drought nothing
fazes the candlenut.

All the more reason to find the edible cultivar. It's a tough, vigorous, productive tree... If you could get a decent meal out of it, perfect! All that's left is to track down the edible strains. Which leads me to...

Found it. Need to look in Vanuatu, name could refer to Maewo island, east of Vanuatu island. See page 5, known varieties
https://www.doc-developpement-durable.org/file/Arbres-Bois-de-Rapport-Reforestation/FICHES_ARBRES/Aleurite%20moluccana/Aleurites-kukui.pdf

Excellent link! I have that book in my pdfs, it never occurred to me to check it out for this query. We've tracked down the origin of "Maewo" (the Costa Rican strain, if different, still eludes us). Now the obvious question... ¿Do any forum members have access to this variety? Does anyone here live in or travel through Vanuatu? I'm thinking of maybe posting something in the buy/sell/trade section. Both seeds and cuttings would be ideal, in case its edible traits aren't genetically fixed. Lets get this strain in the hands of the propagators! The more perennial staples, the merrier.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing Rubus glaucous?
« on: December 25, 2019, 08:39:23 PM »
I have a poor track record germinating Rubus, so I can't say much in that regard. But I think it could do well for you. Keep them in the shade during the hottest months, but test a few plants in full sun, to see how well they adapt. Rubus tend to be strong, hardy and vigorous plants. I think there's a population of R. glaucus in Hawaii, though I'm not fully certain.

Right now I'm growing R. probus, and have had success growing temperate climate Rubus in the worst, most neglectful conditions I could give them, with strong summer heat and full tropical sun. I haven't lost any to my climate yet. Highland tropical species might be as hardy, or they might not, but I'm decently  confident in R. glaucus.

Trade Winds Fruit has seeds on occasion, so I'm keeping my eyes out for it, to try myself.

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Never heard of anyone selecting out choice varieties of kwai muk. I have one large tree that produces large fruits that are very tasty. Am willing to send scions to anyone interested. I just planted at a different location a whole row of kwai muk as windbreak. They were from seeds sourced from Florida some years ago from 3 different trees, so hopefully eventually i'll have more to select from and come up with different strains.

I have a seedling tree, still smaller than me, so I don't expect a harvest for a long time. That said, I'm keen on trying its own fruit, so I don't wanna top-work it. Can the scions be used as cuttings to root directly? Is there a decent strike rate? I'm interested in some proven good trees myself. Come to think of it... If cuttings were a viable strategy, I could always take cuttings of my current seedling and top-work the proven scions over it, without losing the original... I'm seeing no downside here, though it's contingent on cuttings working well for this species.

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They use kukui nuts in hawaiian poke.

I keep picturing the nuts being forced through a garlic press when used as a condiment. How are they actually used in cooking?


This is very interesting. I haven't heard of candlenut trees before. I'll have to ask around here to see if anyone knows of the variety from Costa Rica that you mentioned. Maybe forum member Peter at Finca la Isla is aware of it. He grows damn near everything!

Please keep me posted, I'm very interested in finding it and trying it out. I'm growing edible Jatropha as a relative, but it occurs to me that edible Candlenut might be similar, with a bigger tree and bigger yields. If Peter sees this, I hope he chimes in.


Yes its similar in taste and texture to macnut, but the macnut is much better.
Candlenut, or Kukui, as it's know in Hawaii, is the state tree of Hawaii. Grows wild all over the place here. Was introduced during canoe voyages by Hawaiians over 1000 years ago. Had so very many uses, including medicinal uses.

How so? Can you elaborate on the taste distinctions? (And on the medicinal uses?) I tried sprouting Macnut a few years back, but I don't have much experience scarifying or anything like that, so they never sprouted for me. Perhaps they weren't fresh enough? I had gotten them from Trade Winds. I still dream of getting the Mac tree, but I've slowed down my tree collection... I've almost run out of space for the time being.

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That tuber looks great! For how long was that vine in the ground? It looks much bigger than the roots I've harvested. I remember mine were excellent, slightly yellow, with agreeable taste and texture everywhere except near the growing point (it was tougher, which I've found to be the case with all yams).

Indeed, I remember you telling me that the tuber portion was reputed to be tastier, and I found that to be the case on my first few tries. But when I plucked and ate a fresh bulbil at the peak of ripeness, it was a whole different experience. Fresh off the vine, with no storage time, it was like eating actual potatoes. The root and the bulbils are not very comparable, they taste a bit different to me. The root tastes more like a traditional yam and it keeps its quality longer. The flavor quality of the bulbils deteriorates the longer you keep it in storage, though they remain edible through it all. The tubers and bulbils are both excellent, but different.

It occurs to me that you can grow air potato in two different ways... I picture a perennial patch, grown on trees or trellis, where the root is left in place year after year. These would be kept for large bulbil production, where the bulbils would be the main crop. A second patch could be grown like more conventional yams on trellis, harvested for the tubers and replanted from their own bulbils every year. The bulbils from this second patch would be smaller, but they'd also be edible, and I've found the skin on CV-1 to be tender and edible (I still have to test the bigger bulbils, but I suspect the same applies). Select a few for replanting, then chuck the rest of the small bulbils into soups and stews (perhaps pre-boiled, in case their cooking water is bitter).

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Don't remember the wild varieties here in Hawaii having any bitterness at all. They are very tasty, but said to be having laxative effect if you eat more than one or two.

If they're non-bitter, then they're probably free of saponins, though phorbol may still be a concern... ¿Could phorbol be the laxative cause? I imagine the purported edible type would be free of such laxative effects.

How does candlenut compare to Macadamia taste-wise? I heard it's a dead ringer for texture, and Mac is my favorite nut, like snacking on butter!

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The Wikipedia page on Candlenut mentions an alleged edible, bitter-free Candlenut from Costa Rica, but doesn't provide a reference. "The Carbon Farming Solution" by Eric Toensmeier mentions one edible variety (¿the same one?) called "Maewo", but while he does provide a reference (Ibid., 49), he doesn't mention where it's from, and I couldn't find the reference in a simple internet search.

Does anyone here grow an edible variety? And I mean fully edible, bitter-free, not the usual varieties that are used sparingly as a condiment in food.

And just for reference, what's it like to eat the usual varieties?

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I harvested the first plant (out of 5, 4 to go) of Dioscorea esculenta, which I had received from Chandramohan. The verdict... It was great! Tender, quick to cook, mild and starchy. The skin is thin, but inedible and bitter (I tried it); if you cook the tiny ones in the skin, they're easier to pop out with your fingers than if you tried to peel them. Yields were small – no fertilizer, infrequent watering, 2 gallon pots. I expect yields to be much better when given actual decent care.

I ate the first plant's worth of tubers. From the remainder, I'll save some seed tubers for myself and for anyone else interested. The other plants haven't died back yet, but when they do, I'll be leaving them in the ground until it's time to plant or ship (and shipped in media, as I received them). I had left this first batch of tubers exposed for a few days, and they turned a bit ugly outside – though they were still nice and tasty inside.

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What strain is the left smooth one? Where to get it?
Is it tasty?

Come to think of it, I think it's the same one I sent you.



This is the biggest airpotato I got so far, weighing 990 gms. Unfortunately, the bulbils on this vine seems to have been attacked by some pests, there are dark pockets on all bulbils. Do you have such a problem? By the way, did the other bulbifera fruit?

That's an impressive bulbil! Is that from the smooth one you first sent me (CV-1) or from the bumpy second one you sent me (CV-2)?

If the pockets are tiny and somewhat deep, I'd guess beetles or other such insects were the culprit. If they're large and broad, it's probably slugs and snails (they were the culprit when my bulbils were being attacked). For the most part, my bulbiferas are decently safe lately.

Sena is in active growth, with a very late start. I pray for bulbils, but I'm not sure it'll give them to me yet.

Hawaii 2 was set-back by dying back when I was traveling, and resprouting soon after. From the looks of things, it's about to finish for the year, and only bore one decent bulbil, which I sent to Luis (the next one goes to you, the next ones after that to a few people I owe bulbils to).

CV-2 died back in the same incident, and hasn't resprouted. Several yams died back, and I actually lost track of which container had which yam. I fear the worst, but I'm hoping a tuber survived to bear bulbils next year. At least it bore one small bulbil before drying up, and it's already sprouting roots.

I got a pack of multiple edible Air Potatoes today. The original "Hawaii" (also known as "Jim's Hawaii"), a Korean-based African strain (tentatively called "Afro-Korea") reputed to be of excellent quality (it even has edible foliage), as well as an asian type remarkably similar to Nonthaburi Yellow (tentatively called "Tefoe Yellow", the main distinction is paler brown skin). I got two purple bulbils of uncertain edibility called "Tefoe Purple", but they seem delicate, they're survival is not assured, so I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. I'm getting a green one next season.

The Polish African strain I'll tentatively call "Pińczów", and the one from GoodMice "Mae-Sai Yellow".

Pics!

The air potatoes in their packages:




Tefoe Yellow on the left, Nonthaburi Yellow on the right:




Jim's Hawaii:




Three African strains, Jim's Hawaii on the left, Mexico in the lower middle, and Afro-Korea on the right:


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The food was as good as it looked.  ;D

The pale smooth strain on the left side is CV-1, still growing on my own vine. It was my first bulbifera variety, sent by Chandramohan (I named it after him, CV, his initials). I have that bulbil, a few that are somewhat approaching that size, and some small ones from a vine I accidentally killed at the base (they should be viable, though).

It is tasty! It's harder when immature, tender at full maturity. Freshly picked, it tastes more like potato than yam. The longer you let it sit on the counter, the stronger the bitter tones get, so eating it fresh is recommended — but they remain edible no matter how bitter they get. The skin is edible too, but I haven't eaten it from a mature one yet. The tiny one I chucked into the soup the other day (unpeeled, with the skin) was tender despite its size, and had a more vegetal than starchy flavor.

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Luis, I checked the link from the Polish eBay vendor you bought from, and they had another bulbil in stock! I placed an order, and I'm expecting it to arrive on February.

Thai vendor "GoodMice" has confirmed her bulbifera as edible as well, so in the hopes that it's a different accession from my other Thai bulbil, I've placed an order.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Dioscorea-Bulbifera-Bulbs-Thai-Herb/182952108093?_mwBanner=1&ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11051.m43.l1123%2F7%3Feuid%3D67fd8deff6a5471383f446598f48f013%26bu%3D44494520481%26loc%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fitm%252F182952108093%26sojTags%3Dbu%3Dbu%26srcrot%3De11051.m43.l1123%26rvr_id%3D0%26rvr_ts%3Dfca4601616e0ac3d8911397cfff86a85&ul_noapp=true&pageci=3f2b2628-da59-4df9-8a1b-95969544693d

This has truly been a banner year for edible bulbiferas. I'm growing 4 varieties, have 2 more to plant, am expecting 8 more in the mail, and might have a few more waiting for me later this month. This is shaping up to be the largest and most diverse collection of edible Air Potatoes in the West!

I need to talk to some Academic folks, I need to spread my collection out to avoid losing any variety if something were to happen to my collection at home. Furthermore, some breeding and crop development may be in order, now that we have this much diversity on hand. Eric Toensmeier's book on "Perennial Vegetables" proposes a research agenda for Citizen Gardeners (and others), and closes that part of bulbifera's section by wondering if any reader will take up the challenge... Challenge accepted. At the rate this collection is going, we'll have more than enough material for academic botanists and agronomists to hash out the crop potential for this species, and growers can pick out their personal selections for taste, production, and environmental tolerances.

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I'm growing 2 types right now, and they've been frustratingly unproductive. Only 1 decently sized bulbil this season, I sent it to Luis. I got one from Stephward Estate (link here: https://www.stephward.co.za — it's unlisted, so I had to contact them by Whatsapp and hash out the deal through there). The other was sourced from a Hawaiian Website (Link here: https://www.store.hawaiiantropicalplants.com/Dioscorea-sp-Air-Potato-55-inch-square-pot-1618.htm ).

This eBay link posted further up the thread sells an edible angular type, which have already arrived in the mail for me:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-BULBOS-DIOSCOREA-BULBIFERA-PAPA-VOLADORA-DE-AIRE-NAME-GUISOS-HUERTO-VITAMINAS/123864323804?_mwBanner=1&ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11051.m43.l1123%2F7%3Feuid%3D6f9dc2bce8aa43c590fdfb48df4948c7%26bu%3D44494520481%26loc%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fitm%252F123864323804%26sojTags%3Dbu%3Dbu%26srcrot%3De11051.m43.l1123%26rvr_id%3D0%26rvr_ts%3D41a1c95016e0a9c161953b3efffc3f60&ul_noapp=true&pageci=3dce9d93-1396-4dff-aeb3-cf2a99c3c27e

I'd also like to take a moment to point out that Thai seller "GoodMice" has confirmed her strain of bulbifera as edible, and I've placed an order, hoping it'll be a different clone from my last Thai acquisition:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Dioscorea-Bulbifera-Bulbs-Thai-Herb/182952108093?_mwBanner=1&ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11051.m43.l1123%2F7%3Feuid%3D67fd8deff6a5471383f446598f48f013%26bu%3D44494520481%26loc%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fitm%252F182952108093%26sojTags%3Dbu%3Dbu%26srcrot%3De11051.m43.l1123%26rvr_id%3D0%26rvr_ts%3Dfca4601616e0ac3d8911397cfff86a85&ul_noapp=true&pageci=3f2b2628-da59-4df9-8a1b-95969544693d

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@ Caesar & Louisport.

Nice! Those are the angular African types from Las Cañadas, correct? For some reason I was picturing the more sharply angled bulbils I’ve seen circulating online, but I guess it’s a different variety. Hope they do well for you guys!

I was told by the seller that they were the same strain as the ones from Las Cañadas. The info on the eBay page is the same as the one in Las Cañadas' FaceBook (thanks for the link, Luis!). I think it's very probably legit.

"Mexico" is definitely more rounded than most of the other African strains I've seen, but they still have their subtle angles, and they're more disk-shaped than ball-shaped when compared to Asian strains.

I also got "Nonthaburi Yellow" in from eBay today, and it's very different from my other Asian strains. The skin seems much thicker & darker than CV-1 (a smooth Sativa). It's covered with lenticels (like the bumpy CV-2, a Suavior), but they're sunken like pockmarks instead of raised like bumps. The interior should be yellow, as in the eBay pics (the reason I chose the name). I got some shots comparing it to Mexico & CV-1:





I gathered up some Potato Mint a few days ago and stuck 'em mostly unpeeled into a Lipton soup with a young Air Potato and a few Basell Potatoes (Madeira Vine). It was great! No bitterness nor off flavors. I also fried up some Basell Potatoes whole, and they were like homemade french fries. Delicious!


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Mexico arrived today! Now I wait for Nonthaburi Yellow. Pics:




And as long as I'm in a thread about potatoes, I got diploid Solanum tuberosum "Skagit Valley Gold" to flower for me! Even in this Tropical heat (winter is barely making a dent in it). If I can get this next batch of in-vitro clones to maturity, I'll have a few diploid partners to cross it with. Pics:




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I've started harvesting CV-1 bulbils, I currently have 3 off-vine, and am letting the others bulk up before plucking.

Hawaii 2 seems to have stopped bulbil-production for the time being, it only churned out the one bulbil I had promised to Luis (already plucked). Unless it bulks up one of the tiny ones remaining (dubious, at the rate they're going), I'll need another season to have more available. If you're interested, Anolis, I can send the tiny ones in with the CV-1, free (since their viability isn't guaranteed).

Sena hasn't borne anything yet, but the vines are still healthy and seemingly in active growth.

The tiny bulbil I saved from the bumpy CV-2 (before losing track of the mother tuber) has turned out viable! It's forming roots right now, and I anticipate vine formation soon. I expect plenty of bulbils next season.



The two new ones I bought from ebay have yet to arrive (the Thai one shipped out only recently, the Mexican strain has been out for a while and still hasn't gotten here). I haven't received the other new ones from my contacts yet, but if all goes well, I should have about 10 new varieties by year's end. I'll keep y'all posted.

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These are some of the air potato bulbils that came off a bulbil or two I got from Caesar. The ground tuber has grown to about 4 inches, 100mm size. The plant suffered a little because here in Florida we have an invasive inedible type air potato which has become a problem in our native areas. As a result, a non-native insect which attacks the air potato was introduced and I can see it has attacked my plants making the leaves look like someone shot them with a shotgun.
I will probably trial these for a few more seasons to see what happens but since ordinary D. alata is unaffected by pests it seems to be the better choice for my area. These bulbils are really only suitable for replanting and don't represent what might be expected from a more mature plant and one which hasn't been under attack. I will show what happens next year.


Those bulbils are definitely characteristic of first-year vines, they should be noticeably and consistently bigger in the second year. Also, unless the vines are being cut down before bulbil formation, I wouldn't worry too much about the pest beetles. Granted I've never faced such extreme damage, but I did find my vines to be the most pest-susceptible yams in my collection, and they kept churning out bulbils without a care in the world.

They're still edible at smaller sizes, and I'm thinking of trying the smallest ones this year, as well as trying them skin-on (bulbifera skin is edible, but depending on the variety can range from tender to tough). At smaller sizes (depending on maturity), the bulbils can have a hard texture, but they're still edible.

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I found another eBay ad that vaguely mentioned both edible and medicinal traits. When asked, they confirmed that they were selling it as an edible bulbifera (with Phytosanitary Certificate included). They seem to have plenty of stock left, so I'll be buying one soon, once I get some extra cash in the bank. Nonthaburi Yellow seems like a good name for it. It seems dark and bumpy, but smoother than most suaviors (not to mention, there are other Asian subspecies besides those two). eBay link here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bulb-DIOSCOREA-BULBIFERA-Air-Potato-Yam-Herb-Plant-Phytosanitary-Certificate/401523014621?hash=item5d7ca2fbdd:g:LtEAAOxyVX1Rugy5


Strange your african type has not produced.
All mine did make some bulbils already after 3-4 months.
It seem also much more vigorous than the asian one you sent me.

My Alata instead has grown a lot in ground this year, 3-4 meters tall.
It did make some bulbils but they stopped growing at 1-2mm, why is that?
This plant has been in pot and the aerial part was dying for quite a long time but would not resprout. I removed everything and it did finally decide to sprout again vigorously.
It's hard to see in the picture, but it goes all the way to the top climbing a guava and an elm.


Hawaii 2 was actually making a bulbil before the drought nuked it to the ground, and it quickly started on a new one once it started growing again. Sena is the one that worries me a bit... Growing out of season, poor production the first time around, delayed growth and production the second time... I'm really hoping it's just a phase, while it acclimates to my hemisphere, otherwise it doesn't seem like it'll be a productive strain. The Asian ones are more vigorous from the second season onwards, and are weaker when first started from a bulbil.

Alatas also tend to make bigger bulbils a few years down the road, though they tend to be less consistent than bulbifera in that regard. My St. Vincent alata put out a pair of tubers barely bigger than large marbles. Alatas seem to focus more on rampant vine growth and tuber size than bulbil production, but some can be reliable under the right care. If allowed to grow on trees, they can reach for the sky real fast.

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There are known poisonous strains among African stock (varietas "contralatrones" comes to mind, deliberately planted to foil thieves). That said, I don't think African types have naturalized anywhere, and I doubt anyone outside of Africa is deliberately planting any poisonous types (to foil thieves or otherwise). Most any African type you'll find for sale outside of Africa are likely to be edible, and I've no reason to doubt if a vendor sells an African type as edible.

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I recently found the Hindi name for Plectranthus rotundifolius. It is Koorka and is grown quite a bit by smaller farmers in India.
You can find many recipes for preparation on youtube plus a novel idea for peeling these smallish tubers.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6kMuLpHxWE

My own plants seem to be doing well it took them a long time to get flowering they may be daylength -sensitive in my zone since I noticed the flowering happened when other daylegth sensitive plants (winged beans, mucuna) began to flower. It may be another month or so before I will start digging.

Mine also flower around year's end, approximately. They started flowering in October for me.

Also, great video link! With the footwork, I would've expected the tubers to come out smashed, but they probably didn't put full weight on it. It seems like a much faster and efficient way to do it than mine (I had fewer tubers, and it took me at least half an hour by hand).

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I am getting a good bulbil crop on both white and purple alata vines, and should have plenty to sell or trade after New Years.

Would you consider these two alatas productive bulbil-bearers? Would you grow them for that particular purpose?

Mine survived well enough, but beside being first-year vines, the white ones had their growing tips damaged early on, so I don't expect much from them this season.

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1. Wax Apple var. Dalhari
2. Wax Apple var. Jambu Madu Deli
3. Wax Apple var. Jambu air Bajang Leang
4. Wax Apple var. Jambu air Citra
5. Wax Apple var. King rose

 ;D ;D ;D

I've never seen someone with such a strong liking for wax apple. ¿Just how good are these varieties?

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