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How long ago did you plant your Coconut Cream in the ground? and is on on Turpentine.Just wondering as I noticed you have many flowers still and my CC is now starting its first flush on some branches and has already finished flowering overall. Johnny
I had good luck with mangoes on turpentine rootstock. I have CAC, LZ, Pickering, CC, Malika, Glenn, and VP on turpentine that are doing excellent. Here is my Pickering and CC on turpentine in pots. I can take some pictures tomorrow and post. I found that mangoes on turpentine I lost are due to my own fault. When I started I only used potting soil for potted trees, and used mulch to plant in ground. As a result I lost those trees. Now that I have switched to sand and topsoil mix only, I haven't lost anymore. Unfortunately, I still have some trees in potting soil only and they are on their way out.Pickering and CC in sand and topsoil mix.
Quote from: hawkfish007 on May 16, 2020, 12:24:49 AMI had good luck with mangoes on turpentine rootstock. I have CAC, LZ, Pickering, CC, Malika, Glenn, and VP on turpentine that are doing excellent. Here is my Pickering and CC on turpentine in pots. I can take some pictures tomorrow and post. I found that mangoes on turpentine I lost are due to my own fault. When I started I only used potting soil for potted trees, and used mulch to plant in ground. As a result I lost those trees. Now that I have switched to sand and topsoil mix only, I haven't lost anymore. Unfortunately, I still have some trees in potting soil only and they are on their way out.Pickering and CC in sand and topsoil mix.Very intetesting.. Maybe that's why I lost my Pickering and Little Gem. I used organic garden soil. Do you think it will work if I use all purpose sand from HD mixed with garden soil (is it the same with top soil?).
Quote from: palingkecil on May 16, 2020, 12:33:14 AMQuote from: hawkfish007 on May 16, 2020, 12:24:49 AMI had good luck with mangoes on turpentine rootstock. I have CAC, LZ, Pickering, CC, Malika, Glenn, and VP on turpentine that are doing excellent. Here is my Pickering and CC on turpentine in pots. I can take some pictures tomorrow and post. I found that mangoes on turpentine I lost are due to my own fault. When I started I only used potting soil for potted trees, and used mulch to plant in ground. As a result I lost those trees. Now that I have switched to sand and topsoil mix only, I haven't lost anymore. Unfortunately, I still have some trees in potting soil only and they are on their way out.Pickering and CC in sand and topsoil mix.Very intetesting.. Maybe that's why I lost my Pickering and Little Gem. I used organic garden soil. Do you think it will work if I use all purpose sand from HD mixed with garden soil (is it the same with top soil?).That's what I use Quikrete all purpose soil and regular top soil in 50:50 ratio. For inground trees, just native soil. If I knew or used this mix when I started, I wouldn't have lost so many trees.
Quote from: hawkfish007 on May 16, 2020, 12:39:35 AMQuote from: palingkecil on May 16, 2020, 12:33:14 AMQuote from: hawkfish007 on May 16, 2020, 12:24:49 AMI had good luck with mangoes on turpentine rootstock. I have CAC, LZ, Pickering, CC, Malika, Glenn, and VP on turpentine that are doing excellent. Here is my Pickering and CC on turpentine in pots. I can take some pictures tomorrow and post. I found that mangoes on turpentine I lost are due to my own fault. When I started I only used potting soil for potted trees, and used mulch to plant in ground. As a result I lost those trees. Now that I have switched to sand and topsoil mix only, I haven't lost anymore. Unfortunately, I still have some trees in potting soil only and they are on their way out.Pickering and CC in sand and topsoil mix.Very intetesting.. Maybe that's why I lost my Pickering and Little Gem. I used organic garden soil. Do you think it will work if I use all purpose sand from HD mixed with garden soil (is it the same with top soil?).That's what I use Quikrete all purpose soil and regular top soil in 50:50 ratio. For inground trees, just native soil. If I knew or used this mix when I started, I wouldn't have lost so many trees.Thank you! My native soil is not completely clay, but a little dense. Do you think it will work better if I mixed a little bit sand with my native soil?
Ant, do you buy trees that are already on manila rootstock? Or do you just graft onto manila trees that you buy from the store?
Quote from: palingkecil on May 16, 2020, 12:42:24 AMQuote from: hawkfish007 on May 16, 2020, 12:39:35 AMQuote from: palingkecil on May 16, 2020, 12:33:14 AMQuote from: hawkfish007 on May 16, 2020, 12:24:49 AMI had good luck with mangoes on turpentine rootstock. I have CAC, LZ, Pickering, CC, Malika, Glenn, and VP on turpentine that are doing excellent. Here is my Pickering and CC on turpentine in pots. I can take some pictures tomorrow and post. I found that mangoes on turpentine I lost are due to my own fault. When I started I only used potting soil for potted trees, and used mulch to plant in ground. As a result I lost those trees. Now that I have switched to sand and topsoil mix only, I haven't lost anymore. Unfortunately, I still have some trees in potting soil only and they are on their way out.Pickering and CC in sand and topsoil mix.Very intetesting.. Maybe that's why I lost my Pickering and Little Gem. I used organic garden soil. Do you think it will work if I use all purpose sand from HD mixed with garden soil (is it the same with top soil?).That's what I use Quikrete all purpose soil and regular top soil in 50:50 ratio. For inground trees, just native soil. If I knew or used this mix when I started, I wouldn't have lost so many trees.Thank you! My native soil is not completely clay, but a little dense. Do you think it will work better if I mixed a little bit sand with my native soil?Adding sand to native soil should be ok and wouldn't be detrimental to trees. Apply generous amount of mulch around the tree away from trunk, and your soil profile will improve over time. One thing I forgot to mention, it is best to get a tree that hasn't been up potted locally at the nurseries since most nurseries use potting soil based mix to up pot to keep weight of the tree low and to water less frequently. Not to mention to make more $. I found mangoes that is in Florida sand and soil mix does well when planted directly in native soil, or sand and soil mix in pot.
Thanks, Ant! Where do you get your trees on manila rootstock? Also I totally agree about mixing in sand instead of purely using bagged garden soil, which is mostly forest products, which decompose/rot over time and will eventually kill the tree. I've had really good results with mixing in sand to my native soil along with worm castings and some peat moss. Peat moss decompose quite slowly compared to tree products and is one of the best mediums for moisture retention. It's really helpful since sand drains most of the water. The only downside to sand is that it's super heavy.
Quote from: stephen on May 16, 2020, 01:49:32 AMThanks, Ant! Where do you get your trees on manila rootstock? Also I totally agree about mixing in sand instead of purely using bagged garden soil, which is mostly forest products, which decompose/rot over time and will eventually kill the tree. I've had really good results with mixing in sand to my native soil along with worm castings and some peat moss. Peat moss decompose quite slowly compared to tree products and is one of the best mediums for moisture retention. It's really helpful since sand drains most of the water. The only downside to sand is that it's super heavy.I stopped using peat moss in sand and soil mix for mangoes. I now use pumice rocks for mangoes that are in pots and under sun whole day to help retain water. But the mix does make the pot super heavy. I apply gromulch and worm casting on the top 1-2” only. This method has been working well for me. BTW, crop services sells 30 lbs worm gold plus for $19 plus tax.
Quote from: hawkfish007 on May 16, 2020, 10:03:46 AMQuote from: stephen on May 16, 2020, 01:49:32 AMThanks, Ant! Where do you get your trees on manila rootstock? Also I totally agree about mixing in sand instead of purely using bagged garden soil, which is mostly forest products, which decompose/rot over time and will eventually kill the tree. I've had really good results with mixing in sand to my native soil along with worm castings and some peat moss. Peat moss decompose quite slowly compared to tree products and is one of the best mediums for moisture retention. It's really helpful since sand drains most of the water. The only downside to sand is that it's super heavy.I stopped using peat moss in sand and soil mix for mangoes. I now use pumice rocks for mangoes that are in pots and under sun whole day to help retain water. But the mix does make the pot super heavy. I apply gromulch and worm casting on the top 1-2” only. This method has been working well for me. BTW, crop services sells 30 lbs worm gold plus for $19 plus tax.Thanks for the tip! Is there a reason why you don't go for peat moss? And where do you get your pumice rocks? I've been wondering about the best place to get them.