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Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« on: September 24, 2015, 11:08:37 AM »
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I wanted to try to compile a list of fruit trees that root well from cuttings, specifically:
  • Roots easily, quickly, vigorously, etc.
  • Makes a viable tree from the cutting
  • Makes a viable root system from the cutting (e.g. doesn't make the tree severely drought intolerant or prone to blowing over)
  • Makes a healthy tree (i.e. not disease-prone) capable of producing fruit and thriving growing on its own roots (as opposed to being grafted on to a rootstock)
Here are a few to get started (I will update this list based on comments below)

- Figs
- Pomegranates
- Ribes/Currants
- Rasperry
- Grape
- Kiwi
- Mombin
- Lychee and Longan (air layering)

- Citrus? (The problem with starting citrus from a cutting or air layering is that the tree does not develop a good taproot.  In times of drought, citrus with a taproot performs better)
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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2015, 11:13:24 AM »
Thought of another: dragonfruit (though not a 'tree' but certainly roots well from cuttings, thrives and produces fruit)
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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2015, 11:14:48 AM »
Ribes, Rasperry and Grape, but also Kiwi could give satisfaction...:)....for more tropical tree I don't know....May be Lytchee or Longan??

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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2015, 12:22:51 PM »
Mombin is real easy

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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2015, 12:49:28 PM »
- Citrus? (I have read that this can be done, but does it make vigorous viable trees?)

The problem with starting citrus from a cutting or air layering is that the tree does not develop a good taproot.  In times of drought, citrus with a taproot performs better.
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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2015, 01:20:02 PM »

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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2015, 02:19:45 PM »
Delvi83, From the sea, jcaldeira

Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2015, 02:21:13 PM »
starch, very similar topic here. tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=7882.msg101166#msg101166

fyliu,

Thanks for pointing this out. I did a quick (but ineffective evidently) search to see if this topic was covered. Shame on me for not doing a better search here and double shame on me for not doing a better google search.
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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2015, 05:15:10 PM »
I had tried many times but fail to root a fig cutting which sounds easy from reading the web.  What is your best method, and time of year?

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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2015, 09:45:51 PM »
Remove all leaves. Wrap the top with parafilm. Put it in the fridge for a few days to dry the wound. Stick it into a small pot of clean soil and water deeply. Then don't water unless the soil is dried out. Keep shaded and maybe indoors until rooted.

I did it last month when the weather was really hot. There's a tree with large fruits on Orange Grove at the bottom of the hill in Burbank. I took a 5" branch tip of that.

I do have failures when there are lots of cuttings. I don't care for each of them as well and around 30% die.
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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2015, 12:19:16 PM »
ive had success with fig, papaya, mulberry, moringa and grape.
summers are humid here in New Orleans, maybe that makes a difference ?
 i just put them in a plastic cup with a compost/sand/perlite mix
but, i also cover the top an inch deep with wood chips.
i put it in an area where it gets only early morning sun for an hour or 2
and water every 2 or 3 days when it starts to dry out.

with papaya, you have to use the top.
i tried leaf/stem cuttings and they never worked.
ive read they will fruit faster - and shorter when grown from cuttings.

every year i fight to try and grow them in early spring from seed,
so i can have fruit before it freezes... its almost not worth it...
i normally get a few at the end of fall
 just before frost damages them so badly that they take 1/2 a year to come back.

this is my first from cutting
 i think i will do this again in early spring

the other cutting in the pic is an Acerola cutting...
 - it just died...

papaya


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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2015, 02:21:21 PM »
Fyliu, thank you for the tips about fig rooting. I have yet tried to root fig during summer. I usually got the cuttings before spring when the tree was still in dormancy, when most people thought the best time, then tried to root them indoor warm condition. I had tried both water rooting and planted in perlite. In water the cuttings sent out buds with small fruits and tiny white balls -- root cells I think. But eventually they all rotted. I will try this weekend and hopefully we still have warm weather the next few weeks in 91501. You said cover the top with parafilm; do you mean to use only the cutting with top bud (to be covered with parafilm) or the canes are ok too? Do you know what type of that big fig on Orrange Grove? Hopefully not those big Tukey fig which I think not so tasty.

Greenman, I had heard about papaya cutting method but never tried out because growing papaya is fairly easy in 91501.

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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2015, 02:28:02 PM »
Sapote,

I have a couple small fig trees you can come and grab some cutting from if you'd like.
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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2015, 02:38:01 PM »
Rooted many cuttings of fig by using a 2-3 ft cutting less leaves and burying all of it except 2 inches peeking above the ground.  Watered and dug up rooted cutting the following year.  Lots of internodes to sprout roots and it is not labor intensive.

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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2015, 02:50:36 PM »
Rooted many cuttings of fig by using a 2-3 ft cutting less leaves and burying all of it except 2 inches peeking above the ground.  Watered and dug up rooted cutting the following year.  Lots of internodes to sprout roots and it is not labor intensive.

You buried the whole 2ft less 2"? I did tried this method  with 1ft cutting in early spring. They seemed to survive and sent out a few leaves but very slow, and after about 3 months struggling they all died.

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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2015, 02:57:18 PM »
Sapote,

I have a couple small fig trees you can come and grab some cutting from if you'd like.

Hi Sami, thank you for you generosity. I already have a Black Mission and one Osborne Prolific. BM is great but OP is just ok with open eye (easily rotted)  but with big fruits. I'm trying to root a green with strawberry red inside fig that I no one knows what variety. Fruits ripe well into November. Do you know your varieties?

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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2015, 03:47:40 PM »
Mission and Negretta (is what he said?)
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Re: Fruit Trees that root well from cuttings
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2015, 04:38:51 PM »
Anyone tried rooting longan?  The CRFG matrix shows that its hard but not impossible.  I am going to give this a try.

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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2015, 05:28:43 PM »
Mission and Negretta (is what he said?)

Sami, Negretta or Lambretta or Maicoletta (which I used to have the two-wheeler) :)

Negretta seems to be an interesting Italian fig. I sure am interested on this one and would like to get couple cuttings. I will PM you.

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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2015, 01:08:13 PM »
Sapote...we are in pure sand dune sand.  Lots of drainage and roots do not get waterlogged.  Stuff roots well here in the sand as long as it is watered.  Even prunings of pineapple guava (feijoa) laying on the ground during winter rains put out roots. I have done the same with Persian (black) mulberry. 

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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2015, 07:29:32 PM »
Jack, it sounds like I made the same mistake of too wet soil over and over many time without knowing. Sami gave me a Negretta fig cutting already in the pot and the medium was in no way could hold too much water. He even had a partial cut leave and a small leave on it, covered the whole thing with clear plastic bag to keep the moisture. I placed the pot to have some morning sun. It looks great and I think it will root this time.

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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2015, 10:53:35 PM »
Jack, it sounds like I made the same mistake of too wet soil over and over many time without knowing. Sami gave me a Negretta fig cutting already in the pot and the medium was in no way could hold too much water. He even had a partial cut leave and a small leave on it, covered the whole thing with clear plastic bag to keep the moisture. I placed the pot to have some morning sun. It looks great and I think it will root this time.

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Awesome to hear. Fingers crossed.
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