The Tropical Fruit Forum

Here is a picture of my Maha from the first setting of fruit





And here are pictures from the second crop still holding on the tree

Miracle, I have tasted many cherimoya but I have only tasted a few Atemoyas, mostly from JF. I'm definitely not an Anona expert but JF is.

I find it extremely difficult to ID Cherimoya/Atemoyas because I've had fruit from the same tree with different characteristics. I've had fruit from the same tree with lots of bumps and from a different branch the fruit was smooth and the tree was not multigrafted so it was definitely just one variety.

Of all the Atemoyas I've tasted, Super Lisa from JF was by far my favorite due to the intense flavor and perfect sugar acid balance.

Simon

I only try to shade it for about 1-2 weeks. After that, I remove the protection. Good luck!

Simon

Thanks Adam, I'll stick with the Sabara rootstock for now. I'll keep everyone updated on the experiments.

Simon

My scions usually push after about 2-4 weeks depending on quality of scion, rootstock vigor and state of growth and temp.

Simon

Hello Adam, can you give me a top 3 list of varieties of Jab to use for rootstock for each of these three conditions: 1) adaptability to high pH soils 2) plant vigor 3) early fruiting?

I'm wondering if there's anything you recommend besides Sabara and the Hybrid? Perhaps Vexator?
Thanks Adam,
Simon

One cheap solution I've seen Tom A. use for his white sapotes, which like to have lots of room, is stack two 1/2 gallon cardboard rectangular milk / beverage containers on top of each other (taped in some way) and use that as a deep pot.  It's about as deep as many of the tree pots, stable (because of the flat bottom), and free.  I've also tried something similar by cutting the bottom off of a #1 nursery pot and stacking it, but it's not nearly as stable.

That's awesome! I love the idea of re purposing something and it's also cheap.

Simon

Future, I like it, sounds like a model for a car. This graft is relatively easy to perform and I hope others will try and have similar success.

Shane, I have DSGs on Haden, Tommy Atkins, Keitt, Kent, Valencia Pride, Glenn, Malika, Carrie, Manilla, Glenn and a few other rootstocks. I am most optimistic about using one Mono and one Poly seedling for better adaptation to different soil conditions and for resistance to diseases. Ideally, one of the rootstocks will be a native variety that grows locally so that it is already at a genetic advantage to the local diseases.

The more I research Mangos, the more I'm finding out there is no one single rootstock, pruning technique or variety that does well everywhere. I'm learning that we have to be dynamic and assess each growing site individually and ask ourselves what our ultimate goal is.

Shane, do you have any Mangos on La Vern Manilla rootstock? This rootstock generally performs well for us here in SoCal.

Simon

This three is on double Kent seedling rootstock but I am testing out several different combinations of rootstocks. Kent seedlings make great rootstocks for Double Stone Grafting because they have strong vigorous growth as a seedling and Kent Mango seeds often have partially opened seed husks which makes it easier for seed extraction. Some varieties, Bombay for example, are extremely difficult to remove from the seed husk.

Simon

Ben Porier may have some and Adam of Flyingfox nursery may be able to ship some to you. Good luck in your quest, Jaboticaba are awesome fruit, definitely on my top ten list.

Simon

Looks beautiful, what season are you guys heading into over in France? I wonder if some Potassium will help sweeten up the fruit? Please keep us updated!

Simon

Yup, fresh and properly prepped is key. I find that they push much faster if the buds are nice and large but has not leafed out yet. It's great you got some success, Lemin Zest is an extremely vigorous variety so you should have plenty more scions in the future. The weather will be cooling next week so it should start taking longer for scions to push.

Simon