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The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« on: July 19, 2012, 10:13:41 PM »
Here is a nice picture of the group (not including me because I am the photographer  :D )
It was a great afternoon of Mango tasting, Jackfruit sampling and an awesomely delicious introduction to the Abiu.
I want to say a big thanks to Harry for his generosity in sharing his time and his property full of fruit trees with us.
I am happy to brag that today I grafted 7 pieces of Budwood Of the SUPER CARRIE aka Harry-Carrie (6 onto my Carrie tree and 1 onto my Keitt-just to see if a different rootstock makes a different)
I also did 2 epicotyl grafts from the budwood of  Harry's-- Black Gold x Tabouey JAckfruit.
I am really looking forward to reporting on the outcome of these grafting efforts.
Harry Thanks  again for sharing to make this possible and all your generosity!!






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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 12:40:59 AM »
Tons of mangos, tons of festivals, great nurseries, meetings, talks, and great people. You are all so lucky!!! Thanks for posting photos Marinfla.
Wanna make sure i got the right names to the faces? Can you describe who is who? Good luck with all the grafts!
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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 01:19:25 AM »
Marin,

Thanks for posting the pics!

It's nice to be able to see a face behind a username every now and again.

It looks like most of the bunch was in jovial spirits, and that this was a fine fruit filled occasion.
 may all of your grafts be takes.

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 02:10:55 AM »
Lucky guys the tasting looked awesom......I see a perfect place to hang my hammock.

thanks for posting and good luck w/the grafts,
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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2012, 08:37:05 AM »
Wow murahilin looks so happy.   ???

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 09:05:33 AM »
Murahilin take the Florida Bar Exam in just a few days.  :)

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2012, 09:07:24 AM »
Murahilin take the Florida Bar Exam in just a few days.  :)

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2012, 09:09:20 AM »
Actually, I just noticed that all the people to the left of Harry (and including Harry) are lawyers (or in the case of Murahilin, soon-to-be). That's Lycheeluvah to the far left, beside Murahilin, then I'm the only woman in the pic because Marin has the camera.

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2012, 09:54:48 AM »
Completeing the usual suspects line-up:

Here is a nice picture of the group (not including me because I am the photographer  :D )
It was a great afternoon of Mango tasting, Jackfruit sampling and an awesomely delicious introduction to the Abiu.
I want to say a big thanks to Harry for his generosity in sharing his time and his property full of fruit trees with us.
I am happy to brag that today I grafted 7 pieces of Budwood Of the SUPER CARRIE aka Harry-Carrie (6 onto my Carrie tree and 1 onto my Keitt-just to see if a different rootstock makes a different)
I also did 2 epicotyl grafts from the budwood of  Harry's-- Black Gold x Tabouey JAckfruit.
I am really looking forward to reporting on the outcome of these grafting efforts.
Harry Thanks  again for sharing to make this possible and all your generosity!!


From lef to right:

Gerry (Lycheeluva) seated and leaning, with the Foster Grants, trying to look important.  The scowling guy behind is murahilin (murahilin).  I think his shoes were a bit tight that day or perhaps he had stomach cramps. Then Katie (Hollywood), nice to have met you even though you are a lawyer ( I hate lawyers).  Then me sitting on my butt as usual. Then Abayomi (Future) from Bermuda.  Always a pleasure to have his shining face sitting across the fruit tasting table from you. Far right standing is Grover (I don't think he has registered in this forum, but is active in the garden Web temperate fruit forums), a friend of Gerry's and his traveling companion.  I don't think it goes further than that but who knows.  No, actually a very nice guy that has acreage up in Long Islang, NY and grows lots of temperate fruits. Then seated to the far right is Clint (SleepDoc).  He's a jakfruit lover extrodinaire.  He is the only one brave/foolish enough to climb to the top of my 30 foot jakfruit tree to pick fruits.  What would we do without him.  And that, my friends, is all.  Marin was kind enough to shoot us in our fruit eating glory.

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2012, 10:52:32 AM »
Completeing the usual suspects line-up:

Here is a nice picture of the group (not including me because I am the photographer  :D )
It was a great afternoon of Mango tasting, Jackfruit sampling and an awesomely delicious introduction to the Abiu.
I want to say a big thanks to Harry for his generosity in sharing his time and his property full of fruit trees with us.
I am happy to brag that today I grafted 7 pieces of Budwood Of the SUPER CARRIE aka Harry-Carrie (6 onto my Carrie tree and 1 onto my Keitt-just to see if a different rootstock makes a different)
I also did 2 epicotyl grafts from the budwood of  Harry's-- Black Gold x Tabouey JAckfruit.
I am really looking forward to reporting on the outcome of these grafting efforts.
Harry Thanks  again for sharing to make this possible and all your generosity!!


From lef to right:

Gerry (Lycheeluva) seated and leaning, with the Foster Grants, trying to look important.  The scowling guy behind is murahilin (murahilin).  I think his shoes were a bit tight that day or perhaps he had stomach cramps. Then Katie (Hollywood), nice to have met you even though you are a lawyer ( I hate lawyers).  Then me sitting on my butt as usual. Then Abayomi (Future) from Bermuda.  Always a pleasure to have his shining face sitting across the fruit tasting table from you. Far right standing is Grover (I don't think he has registered in this forum, but is active in the garden Web temperate fruit forums), a friend of Gerry's and his traveling companion.  I don't think it goes further than that but who knows.  No, actually a very nice guy that has acreage up in Long Islang, NY and grows lots of temperate fruits. Then seated to the far right is Clint (SleepDoc).  He's a jakfruit lover extrodinaire.  He is the only one brave/foolish enough to climb to the top of my 30 foot jakfruit tree to pick fruits.  What would be do without him.  And that, my friends, is all.  Marin was kind enough to shoot us in our fruit eating glory.

Harry

harry- u r a funny guy.

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2012, 11:12:47 AM »
Great picture of the 'crew' and it is quite a dashing bunch with no one looking crusty at all.It is good to hear that there is at least one social climber in the pack who will go out on a limb for the pack.I am a big fan of companionship also.Today vietnamese fruit friends visited me bearing gifts.They promised me a batched of their exquisite lemon chempa x jacks in November whe they revisit.

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2012, 12:02:40 PM »
Completeing the usual suspects line-up:

 Far right standing is Grover (I don't think he has registered in this forum, but is active in the garden Web temperate fruit forums), a friend of Gerry's and his traveling companion.  I don't think it goes further than that but who knows.  Harry

by the way, harry, with that comment, i consider you to have officially gained revenge for the comment i made about you imaginining two distinct threads that made you think you were devloping dementia

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2012, 12:04:24 PM »
Even Steven!
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2012, 12:11:23 PM »
Hi Marin,
Thanks for sharing :) Great to see all them fellow members(+ Grover who needs to be invited ;) ) having a great time 8)

Good luck with them grafts, Marin ;)...please keep us posted...especially them Jack epi's, which i'm very much interested in :)

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 12:11:34 PM »
Completeing the usual suspects line-up:

 Far right standing is Grover (I don't think he has registered in this forum, but is active in the garden Web temperate fruit forums), a friend of Gerry's and his traveling companion.  I don't think it goes further than that but who knows.  Harry

by the way, harry, with that comment, i consider you to have officially gained revenge for the comment i made about you imaginining two distinct threads that made you think you were devloping dementia

In his defense I do definitely recall a comment about how close you guys really planned to get in your 4 star hotel...I will not repeat the exact comment for fear that I may need to join the witness protection program :)

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2012, 02:08:28 PM »
Murahilin take the Florida Bar Exam in just a few days.  :)

Don't remind me.. 4 days away!

Good Luck!!!!

Thanks!


From lef to right:

Gerry (Lycheeluva) seated and leaning, with the Foster Grants, trying to look important.  The scowling guy behind is murahilin (murahilin).  I think his shoes were a bit tight that day or perhaps he had stomach cramps. Then Katie (Hollywood), nice to have met you even though you are a lawyer ( I hate lawyers).  Then me sitting on my butt as usual. Then Abayomi (Future) from Bermuda.  Always a pleasure to have his shining face sitting across the fruit tasting table from you. Far right standing is Grover (I don't think he has registered in this forum, but is active in the garden Web temperate fruit forums), a friend of Gerry's and his traveling companion.  I don't think it goes further than that but who knows.  No, actually a very nice guy that has acreage up in Long Islang, NY and grows lots of temperate fruits. Then seated to the far right is Clint (SleepDoc).  He's a jakfruit lover extrodinaire.  He is the only one brave/foolish enough to climb to the top of my 30 foot jakfruit tree to pick fruits.  What would we do without him.  And that, my friends, is all.  Marin was kind enough to shoot us in our fruit eating glory.

Harry

I was not scowling. It was more of a neutral face. I will regain the ability to smile next Wednesday at 5pm.

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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2012, 02:21:54 PM »

I was not scowling. It was more of a neutral face. I will regain the ability to smile next Wednesday at 5pm.

good luck buddy

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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2012, 02:30:06 PM »
Sheehan,


Gu energy gel.  Your brain will want the glucose.

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2012, 05:29:20 PM »
Mura, good luck with your bar! I' sure you will have no problem ;)

Marin, thanks for sharing and good luck with the grafts  ;)

You guys in FL are sure have a good time...  ::)

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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2012, 07:25:06 PM »
Murahilin, can you please take a self portrait photo next Wednesday at 5 pm> That will let us all know how you did. Seriously, i hope you ace it!  8) This world needs more lawyers!  ::)
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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2012, 07:40:07 PM »
ooh that was below the belt oscar!

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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2012, 07:47:27 PM »
ooh that was below the belt oscar!

I almost went to law school myself. Applied and got into 3. But i decided not to become a lawyer. I think it was the student loans i would have had to take out that convinced me otherwise.
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2012, 08:38:46 PM »
Oscar- you are a smart man. The rest of us heard about the high entry salaries and failed to divide that salary by the required annual work hours. Therefore, we didn't realize what a monumental ripoff law school is.

Murahilin- good luck! Bring cash on the 2nd day, because the bar association provides a  keg as you exit the building.

I had such a great time last week. It is wonderful that Harry opens his home to so many people with such regularity.

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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2012, 08:38:58 PM »
I'm looking at that picture and thinking, "man look at all the 6 figure salaries in there."

Just kidding :-).

I suppose that if you own property in HI, you probably have enough $$ in that land to pay off law school a few times over at this point :-). Not me. I was smart enough to buy just before the real estate market collapsed and now have a loan-to-value ratio so big that I can barely count that high. Ohh well, I'm just happy to have land to cultivate enough MANGOES to make Adam jealous.

ooh that was below the belt oscar!

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« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2012, 08:46:26 PM »
Yes I wish you the best of luck with your examination, it sounds a bit daunting.

My advice,

Bar none, never go to the bar, the night before taking the bar examination, you could be barred from becoming a litigator, and placing people behind bars.  :D  ;)

If I was a lawyer, I'd be striving to have big billboards all over town with my face on them, it seems like all the highest paid and most well respected attorneys near me have at least 20 signs.

Who knows, maybe one day we will see Murahaleen's face Happily looking down upon us from a giant roadside sign, with the text, "Have you been injured?". 

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Mura, good luck with your bar! I' sure you will have no problem ;)

Marin, thanks for sharing and good luck with the grafts  ;)

You guys in FL are sure have a good time...  ::)
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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2012, 09:17:54 PM »
When your cherapu, rainforest plum, Luc's Mexican Garcinia, pitangatuba, cambuca, various Rollinia species, and rare jabuticabeira start bearing...then you just might turn me green. 

Until then...I will be drooling over the plants that are in other growers collections that I know...and when I can't make it to their garden's, walking out into my own containerized fruit grove will ease my envious emotions.

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But!!!  U did have me on the verge of jealousy when I saw that big old grafted Illama my friend got from u!

Why don't you whip up another batch real fast, and get some covetous customers like myself to fork over some $$ ??


I'm looking at that picture and thinking, "man look at all the 6 figure salaries in there."

Just kidding :-).

I suppose that if you own property in HI, you probably have enough $$ in that land to pay off law school a few times over at this point :-). Not me. I was smart enough to buy just before the real estate market collapsed and now have a loan-to-value ratio so big that I can barely count that high. Ohh well, I'm just happy to have land to cultivate enough MANGOES to make Adam jealous.

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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2012, 10:05:49 PM »
:-) As much as I love annonas, they won't fruit on my stupid püüpy soil, so I'm starting to give up on them. Arggg!

When your cherapu, rainforest plum, Luc's Mexican Garcinia, pitangatuba, cambuca, various Rollinia species, and rare jabuticabeira start bearing...then you just might turn me green. 

Until then...I will be drooling over the plants that are in other growers collections that I know...and when I can't make it to their garden's, walking out into my own containerized fruit grove will ease my envious emotions.

 ;D

But!!!  U did have me on the verge of jealousy when I saw that big old grafted Illama my friend got from u!

Why don't you whip up another batch real fast, and get some covetous customers like myself to fork over some $$ ??
Jeff  :-)

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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2012, 11:04:53 PM »
OK Adam, don't get me started on the lawyer jokes. There must be more jokes about lawyers than any other profession!
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« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2012, 11:52:35 PM »
too bad there's not a lawyer who can find me a loophole in the laws of nature...so I can go ahead and speed up some plants to start fruiting.

so far I've been relying on grafting and applications of micro nutritional products.



 


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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2012, 10:16:10 AM »
have u tried fruiting them in containers??  For u, id speculate that it's a novel notion indeed,and one I'd entertain if I had a love for annonas and poor soil.  (what's wrong with your soil?? I can't imagine some of the more common annonas having trouble, as long as the soil had good draiange).

anything can be overcome with enough will power, micronutrition, good soil, and big containers!!

:-) As much as I love annonas, they won't fruit on my stupid püüpy soil, so I'm starting to give up on them. Arggg!

When your cherapu, rainforest plum, Luc's Mexican Garcinia, pitangatuba, cambuca, various Rollinia species, and rare jabuticabeira start bearing...then you just might turn me green. 

Until then...I will be drooling over the plants that are in other growers collections that I know...and when I can't make it to their garden's, walking out into my own containerized fruit grove will ease my envious emotions.

 ;D

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« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2012, 10:30:03 AM »
Not me. I was smart enough to buy just before the real estate market collapsed and now have a loan-to-value ratio so big that I can barely count that high. Ohh well, I'm just happy to have land to cultivate enough MANGOES to make Adam jealous.



LOL, I am with you there. I literally owe double what my house is worth. My mistake was getting a second mortage at the peak.

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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2012, 11:34:22 AM »
I think it's the alkalinity of my soil. We have a boatload of crushed up oolitic limestone just under the surface. This year I started on a micro-nutrient program for the annonas. It's helps, but no silver bullet. So far the only annona fruit I've received has been from containerized trees. But, half dozen fruits only lasts me a day. So, I'd need some Giant containers to get enough fruit to make it worthwhile :-). Rootstock may be the next thing I toy with. Pond apple?

have u tried fruiting them in containers??  For u, id speculate that it's a novel notion indeed,and one I'd entertain if I had a love for annonas and poor soil.  (what's wrong with your soil?? I can't imagine some of the more common annonas having trouble, as long as the soil had good draiange).

anything can be overcome with enough will power, micronutrition, good soil, and big containers!!
Jeff  :-)

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2012, 12:26:34 PM »
I think it's the alkalinity of my soil. We have a boatload of crushed up oolitic limestone just under the surface. This year I started on a micro-nutrient program for the annonas. It's helps, but no silver bullet. So far the only annona fruit I've received has been from containerized trees. But, half dozen fruits only lasts me a day. So, I'd need some Giant containers to get enough fruit to make it worthwhile :-). Rootstock may be the next thing I toy with. Pond apple?

have u tried fruiting them in containers??  For u, id speculate that it's a novel notion indeed,and one I'd entertain if I had a love for annonas and poor soil.  (what's wrong with your soil?? I can't imagine some of the more common annonas having trouble, as long as the soil had good draiange).

anything can be overcome with enough will power, micronutrition, good soil, and big containers!!
Saw an ad on craigslist a few days ago,someone was selling 45 gal containers for $10 each, probably can get them cheaper with some negotiation.

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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2012, 12:33:12 PM »
Try chelated Fe drenches....or putting giant pots in the ground....kind of like Adolf Grimal did in the Keys, when he dug out giant holes in the lime rock, and furthermore punched holes in the bottoms of these immense earth limerock pots.

He made the impossible possible...and that's one reason why he will be remembered by generations to come.

BTW Cookie, thanks for the assist!  We've successfully derailed this mango thread to an alternate and most splendid topic of interest.   ;D ;D ;D ;D  :)

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I think it's the alkalinity of my soil. We have a boatload of crushed up oolitic limestone just under the surface. This year I started on a micro-nutrient program for the annonas. It's helps, but no silver bullet. So far the only annona fruit I've received has been from containerized trees. But, half dozen fruits only lasts me a day. So, I'd need some Giant containers to get enough fruit to make it worthwhile :-). Rootstock may be the next thing I toy with. Pond apple?

have u tried fruiting them in containers??  For u, id speculate that it's a novel notion indeed,and one I'd entertain if I had a love for annonas and poor soil.  (what's wrong with your soil?? I can't imagine some of the more common annonas having trouble, as long as the soil had good draiange).

anything can be overcome with enough will power, micronutrition, good soil, and big containers!!
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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2012, 08:31:06 PM »
I think it's the alkalinity of my soil. We have a boatload of crushed up oolitic limestone just under the surface. This year I started on a micro-nutrient program for the annonas. It's helps, but no silver bullet. So far the only annona fruit I've received has been from containerized trees. But, half dozen fruits only lasts me a day. So, I'd need some Giant containers to get enough fruit to make it worthwhile :-). Rootstock may be the next thing I toy with. Pond apple?

have u tried fruiting them in containers??  For u, id speculate that it's a novel notion indeed,and one I'd entertain if I had a love for annonas and poor soil.  (what's wrong with your soil?? I can't imagine some of the more common annonas having trouble, as long as the soil had good draiange).

anything can be overcome with enough will power, micronutrition, good soil, and big containers!!

I've seen sugar apples growing and fruiting fine in South Pacific atolls right in their 100% coral limestone, ust a bit of organic materials added to planting holes at the top. So again, the limestone is not the problem. Is there something toxic to plants in oolitic limestone? It's definitely not the alkalinity that's causing your problem.
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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2012, 11:46:48 PM »
Sugar apples will fruit OK here. Aside from being sensitive to wet feet, sugar apples are pretty darn tough. But, the better tasting annonas (mainly atemoya) absolutely refuse to fruit. I only get a handful of flowers, and from 3 atemoyas (Lisa, Geffner, and petch pak chong) I've had 1 fruit in the last 4 years.

The problem here is that I literally only have 6 inches of soil and then crushed limestone directly beneath it. Keep in mind that this isn't limestone in its natural state; it's crushed limestone from when they dug the canal which was used to raise the foundation. I added huge amounts of compost (several dump truck loads) and it raised the soil level in my yard a couple of inches. That has helped quite a bit for the mangoes, but the more ph-sensitive plants are still hard to grow. Carambola is one of the most difficult, but fortunately it will still fruit heavily even when stunted and heavily chlorotic. Atemoya, being a bit more fussy, just plain refuses to fruit. It's a shame because Atemoya is one of my favorite fruits.

I think it's the alkalinity of my soil. We have a boatload of crushed up oolitic limestone just under the surface. This year I started on a micro-nutrient program for the annonas. It's helps, but no silver bullet. So far the only annona fruit I've received has been from containerized trees. But, half dozen fruits only lasts me a day. So, I'd need some Giant containers to get enough fruit to make it worthwhile :-). Rootstock may be the next thing I toy with. Pond apple?

have u tried fruiting them in containers??  For u, id speculate that it's a novel notion indeed,and one I'd entertain if I had a love for annonas and poor soil.  (what's wrong with your soil?? I can't imagine some of the more common annonas having trouble, as long as the soil had good draiange).

anything can be overcome with enough will power, micronutrition, good soil, and big containers!!

I've seen sugar apples growing and fruiting fine in South Pacific atolls right in their 100% coral limestone, ust a bit of organic materials added to planting holes at the top. So again, the limestone is not the problem. Is there something toxic to plants in oolitic limestone? It's definitely not the alkalinity that's causing your problem.
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Re: The visit to Harry's before the Mango Festival.....
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2012, 11:23:18 AM »
Someone call the TSA.