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Title: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Roy-Ind on April 25, 2014, 12:40:02 PM

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Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Rtreid on April 25, 2014, 04:04:29 PM
Roy,

Cool looking fruit, how to they taste?

Thanks for posting,
Richard
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Tropicaliste on April 25, 2014, 04:40:03 PM
Wow, just when you think you've seen every kind of Nephelium, a new one pops up.  What's it taste like?  Will you be selling seeds?
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: HIfarm on April 25, 2014, 04:41:48 PM
Same questions as the others, also what is the flesh to seed ratio like?

John
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: omarudy on April 25, 2014, 04:50:04 PM
I looked up the species online and I found that they are calling it names from Nephelium longana to Nephelium ramboutan-ake, which it isn't. I did find though that it is native to a colder region than rambutan and pulasan, in Pasighat which is about 28 degrees latitude, and gets an average of 48 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter there. Put me down on the list for seeds!

They call it Nephelium longana here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=apEWNOxPP30C&pg=PA230&lpg=PA228&ots=EimL6ufjOi&focus=viewport&dq=arunachal+pradesh+nephelium&output=html_text (http://books.google.com/books?id=apEWNOxPP30C&pg=PA230&lpg=PA228&ots=EimL6ufjOi&focus=viewport&dq=arunachal+pradesh+nephelium&output=html_text) and go a couple pages back to read the beginning of the description.
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: fruitlovers on April 25, 2014, 06:46:31 PM
Very interesting find Roy. Omar, if it is Nephelium, which it sure looks like, i doubt it could be used as rootstock for lychee, as the book you linked to states. Also Nephelium longana cannot be the correct name for this species as Nephelium longana is a synonym for Dimocarpus longan, the longan, and this doesn't look like any longan!
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2382761 (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2382761)
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: omarudy on April 25, 2014, 10:04:47 PM
Sorry Oscar,

I wasn't so clear. I was saying the same thing, that it is not nephelium longana (which is Longan) or nephelium ramboutan-ake, which is bulala I think. Both links I found that refer to this species from India refer to one of those names, and I was saying that they were not. Either way, great find Roy!
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: fruitlovers on April 25, 2014, 10:25:15 PM
Sorry Oscar,

I wasn't so clear. I was saying the same thing, that it is not nephelium longana (which is Longan) or nephelium ramboutan-ake, which is bulala I think. Both links I found that refer to this species from India refer to one of those names, and I was saying that they were not. Either way, great find Roy!
Omar,
Nephelium ramboutan-ake = pulasan.
Bulala is Nephelium phillippinensis.
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Coconut on April 26, 2014, 12:23:47 AM
Fantastic looking rare find Roy, look like miniature pink durian; let us know when you have some seeds available of this Indian rambutan.
Are these grown on a commercial scale in your country?  Or are they wild & collected from the forest, ;D
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Roy-Ind on April 26, 2014, 03:10:51 AM
It is called "Tadal" in the dialect spoken by Adi tribe of Arunachal pradesh. It is only found in wild.It is Nephelium sp.
It is not Longan(Longan is also available in wild in Arunachal Pradesh)
It is 2 inches long.When ripe, it is red.The taste is sweet.When unripe,it is green and the flesh is  sour in taste.
This is not tropical fruit and the region where it grows is  subtropical to temperate.
Thanks for response

Roy
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Coconut on April 26, 2014, 10:13:51 AM
It is called "Tadal" in the dialect spoken by Adi tribe of Arunachal pradesh. It is only found in wild.It is Nephelium sp.
It is not Longan(Longan is also available in wild in Arunachal Pradesh)
It is 2 inches long.When ripe, it is red.The taste is sweet.When unripe,it is green and the flesh is  sour in taste.
This is not tropical fruit and the region where it grows is  subtropical to temperate.
Thanks for response

Roy

Thankyou for getting back, are you able to get these seeds Roy?
I would love to get 10 seeds if you can spare.  Let me know cost & express mail to Florida, USA; thank again for bringing an unknown variety to our attention, spread them far to save this wild species from the relentless habitat destruction for lumbers & civilization expansion.  ;D
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: druss on June 04, 2017, 08:23:26 PM
Im looking at ordering some of these, did anyone end up growing any?
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: druss on July 04, 2017, 07:54:32 PM
Think I found some more info on these, from an article on underutilized fruits in arunachal:

Tader plants are naturally distributed in wild and virgin forest and is considered as wild relative of cultivated Litchi fruit. Fruits are bigger in size having longer spines. Ripe fruit is red in colour but aril and stone is white. Seed is kidney shaped. Ripe fruit is consumed raw and aril is utilized in squash preparation. It can be used in hybridization and as a rootstock for cultivated litchi. 
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: OCchris1 on July 05, 2017, 01:35:58 AM
Any seeds available? Looks cool. Chris
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Roy-Ind on July 05, 2017, 01:41:32 AM
It is the Indian cultivar of Nephelium lappaceum
Seeds may be available in the next season.
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: druss on July 05, 2017, 02:16:49 AM
Is this the same as Tadal, Roy? The litetature does give it a lower temp tolerance than rambutan.
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: druss on July 05, 2017, 02:55:03 AM
Also I didnt think rambutan and lychee were graft compatible?
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Vernmented on July 05, 2017, 09:40:42 AM
I am also very interested in growing this. What a gorgeous fruit. Hopefully there are still plenty left in the wild.
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Roy-Ind on July 06, 2017, 12:10:49 AM
Troy Tadal is the name given by Nyshi tribe of Arunachal Pradesh for this variety of Nephelium lappaceum.The fruit is big and the tree can tolerate frost .I struggled to sell seeds but now lot of people are interested so let them wait for next season.Some one has to travel to Pasighat in Arunachal Pradesh from North Lakhimpur in Assam and so collection is very expensive.
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: druss on July 06, 2017, 02:38:08 AM
Im glad I got in early then 😁. Though they list it as Nephelium Lappaceum, given the distance and difference in climate Id suggest it is quite a different genotype than the one from the borneo rainforests. Really looking forward to trying to grow it. P.s. Im still keen on the Prunus sp and actinidia sp too.
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Delvi83 on July 06, 2017, 03:12:59 AM
Do you think it could be grown in South Florida? As I know "classic" Rambutan don't withstan Florida's "Winter"..
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: fruitlovers on July 06, 2017, 04:29:26 AM
Im glad I got in early then 😁. Though they list it as Nephelium Lappaceum, given the distance and difference in climate Id suggest it is quite a different genotype than the one from the borneo rainforests. Really looking forward to trying to grow it. P.s. Im still keen on the Prunus sp and actinidia sp too.
This is probably a different species. Really doubt it is lappaceum.
Placed my order in early, but never got them. Were they sent out?
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Roy-Ind on July 06, 2017, 12:52:28 PM
No one is able to identify its exact species.
However this is a big fruit and its taste is sweet.
It grows in the mountains and can tolerate low temperature,even frost.It might be grown in Florida.
For seeds,I may be contacted during May-June 2018.
Thank you
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: achetadomestica on July 06, 2017, 06:09:00 PM
Put me on the list of potential buyers if you have a list?

THANKS
Mike
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: fruitlovers on July 06, 2017, 09:44:59 PM
Just got the seeds, thanks. They arrived all fine and starting to sprout. The seeds are shaped like rambutan seeds, but are quite a bit bigger than any cultivar of rambutan i've ever seen.
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: druss on July 07, 2017, 12:38:20 AM
Awesome that means mine are close  😁
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: ISpendTooMuchTimeHere on June 25, 2018, 11:23:55 AM
Are seed still available for this one?

Thanks
Title: Re: Indigenous Rambutan from Arunachal Pradesh
Post by: Weboh on August 10, 2018, 10:22:56 AM
I'd like some seeds too, if possible.