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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hawaii peak soursop and other fruit seasons
« on: October 17, 2019, 01:49:50 PM »
I've seen a few soursop trees at sea level currently fruiting now.  In the mountains may be different since starting to get more cloud cover and rain.

Quote from: persianmd2orchard on October 14, 2019, 09:03:34 PM
I tried searching and found some info but can anyone comment on the peak time for the tastiest soursops? What months does the overall soursop season span? Is there a best island to be on?

I’m planning a trip to Hawaii and really love soursop... altho I love all tropical fruits. Are there good tasting events or best is to just go to farmers markets?

Trying to also research best time to be for best mango varieties, lychee, longan, papaya, guava and have never tried ice cream bean, jaboticaba...

Sounds like anytime is a good time to visit Hawaii for fruit just depends what you want. Tryin to plan a trip, I know this has been asked a bunch, but wondering if there is updated info esp for soursop!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can these bananas be identified?
« on: October 17, 2019, 01:48:38 PM »
Like taro, the amount of suckers is a good indicator of the variety.  Weaker commercial varieties (but usually more delicious) like Gros Michel have very few suckers, 1-2, while others will produce as many as space permits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canistel pruning
« on: October 17, 2019, 01:45:46 PM »
Mine hasn't needed any pruning, in 3rd year and is very bushy and short, grown from seed., no noticeable leaders.  Perhaps just wait on the one in the ground, the one in nursery go plant already!  Stake it and see if full sun fixes it.  I have found canistel leaves to be long lived, and branches slow growing, so I wouldn't prune it unless necessary.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can these bananas be identified?
« on: October 16, 2019, 04:13:29 PM »
all good indicators, but waiting for them to ripen and see flesh is going to really tell us what they are. what can see now is that:

1. few suckers
2. sharp triangular sides of fruit, indicator thick skin
3. mid size for length of bananas
4. healthy fast growing corms, top tier on height
5. leaves near top tier in length (not counting wild bananas)
6. green stem, green leaves, green unripe fruit
7. flower good edible size, more short then long

By the size of the tree I would say the fruits are going to be very fat, thick skinned, nearly black before ripe, starchy.  Trim the flower now, and pull off any bottom bunches now if they look smaller than than upper ones.

Do you remember now what kind? or did somebody else plant.

Quote from: DSotM on October 16, 2019, 01:13:34 PM




Any help would be great!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I top off my Cherimoya tree?
« on: October 09, 2019, 02:06:43 PM »
all my annonas start off thin and long branches, leading to dieback during drought, not always the leader some of the side branches can be longer than the leader.

Quote from: sosamo on September 09, 2019, 08:12:35 PM
Hi, I planted this El Bumpo Cherimoya tree about 4 months ago from a 5 gallon pot. It's about 7-8ft tall now.I do not have much space, and it will be difficult to get fruit from a 10ft+ tree.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Samoan Dwarfs
« on: September 27, 2019, 05:37:41 PM »
awesome, this can go super dwarf, dig a huge pit with extra sand backfilled for drainage, and plant existing stem, the pit will sink and can be backfilled more in a year to make it seem even more dwarf.

One advantage of growing coconuts in pots if you can keep them alive

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starfruit won't set fruit
« on: September 27, 2019, 05:34:14 PM »
my starfruit tree has been so slow I thought it was stunted, even when heavily flowering sets very little fruit, just enough fruit for the fruit flies, nothing left over.  5 traps on one small 8 foot tree and still worms in every fruit.

Makes me wonder how much chemicals are on commercial starfruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai Dwarf Mulberries
« on: September 20, 2019, 05:39:41 PM »
pics?  I don't know what FE is.

Quote from: roblack on September 20, 2019, 08:21:05 AM
Quote from: sahai1 on September 20, 2019, 02:23:21 AM
If Thai kind.. nah, never seen leaf drop or dormancy, everbearing, never stop growing.

I did have 1 mulberry tree, perhaps this Thai dwarf you have.  It never got taller than 5' after 2 years, and fruits were small and and sour from getting too much sun.  I figured it was just stunted.  Hardy as hell, dug it out and left it, and it just ignored that.   Gave it to a friend to plant in a pot.  This tree only fruited 2-3 times per year. 

From my mother tree that I liked too cuttings and planted everywhere.  All cuttings showed the same vigorous growth, 20' tall within 2 years.

If the berries were small, probably not Thai Dwarf. This plant has larger berries, double or triple size of FE.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai Dwarf Mulberries
« on: September 20, 2019, 02:23:21 AM »
If Thai kind.. nah, never seen leaf drop or dormancy, everbearing, never stop growing.

I did have 1 mulberry tree, perhaps this Thai dwarf you have.  It never got taller than 5' after 2 years, and fruits were small and and sour from getting too much sun.  I figured it was just stunted.  Hardy as hell, dug it out and left it, and it just ignored that.   Gave it to a friend to plant in a pot.  This tree only fruited 2-3 times per year. 

From my mother tree that I liked too cuttings and planted everywhere.  All cuttings showed the same vigorous growth, 20' tall within 2 years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberries in Hawaii
« on: September 20, 2019, 02:20:07 AM »
would consider anything, but like you said you at 2200', I'll be just a bit above sea level, just enough to avoid salt air. I can guarantee my variety for growth and taste, everbearing at sea level tropics, only need irrigation, which I have.  A low count would be 300 cuttings, and this is for a non-profit, so I am definitely not looking to purchase cuttings. or trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberries in Hawaii
« on: September 18, 2019, 09:51:02 PM »
this kind quality

grown at 8.5 degrees N





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai Dwarf Mulberries - How Hardy?
« on: September 18, 2019, 09:44:15 PM »
Some people like to cut to induce flowering, but in my experience prune the tree 15-20' high and thin it for efficiency, fruits will be much larger and juicer growing in shade of canopy.   Birds will target water growth and leaders extending from crown (safer for them) leaving best fruit under crown for you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberries in Hawaii
« on: September 18, 2019, 09:39:55 PM »
this one yeh?
PPQ 587 - Application for permit to import plants or plant products
free?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai Dwarf Mulberries - How Hardy?
« on: September 17, 2019, 07:35:50 PM »
Quote from: Kevin Jones on September 17, 2019, 10:36:42 AM
I didn't name them... I just call em what I've been told.
Dwarf may just be a relative term.

Kevin

just curious if your dwarf trees are staying small, if so how many years?

Just like 'dwarf' coconut trees, the dwarf term actually refers to earlier fruiting, not the actual height of the tree...  dwarf coconuts will grow just as tall as other coconuts, just slower.

So perhaps dwarf mulberries just grow slower?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberries in Hawaii
« on: September 17, 2019, 07:28:08 PM »
Quote from: HIfarm on September 17, 2019, 04:16:12 PM
I recall visiting a guy further up Hamakua coast towards Honoka'a who had a large mulberry tree with a ton of nice large flavorful dark berries.  I have no idea of the cultivar but he said it fruited heavily & reliably.  The birds loved the fruit but he said he got enough to share with them. 

Your tree from Thailand would be a good candidate but, as Oscar points out, it might be prudent to try others as well.  Even if they all work out, the seasons might be slightly different to give you a longer season of fruit.  I recall that there are at least a couple of cultivars from Florida so these might be worth giving a try.  If I recall correctly, I think Shangrila was one of these.

John

thanks John, the Hamakua one you talk about sounds like mine... but yeh plenty to share with birds.  Mine in Thailand is everbearing, only taking breaks after a big push, but those breaks don't last longer than a month, and usually 10% of the tree is still fruiting somewhere.

Importing from Florida would likely be more expensive than importing from Thailand, since I will be trying to bring them back on the airplane free.

Quote from: fruitlovers on September 17, 2019, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: sahai1 on September 17, 2019, 04:02:05 AM
thanks!  that is what I had hoped were the reasons.  In this case I think my best bet is bringing in cuttings from Thailand from my own trees which are prolific and fast growing as banyan trees and have high quality fruit.
To bring in plant material from Thailand you will need a phyto sanitary certificate issued by agriculture department in Thailand. You will also need a plant import permit from USDA.

Thanks for heads up, from what my friend said since just cuttings no soil shouldn't be too hard. I got some time to figure this out, since won't be going out until June. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberries in Hawaii
« on: September 17, 2019, 04:02:05 AM »
thanks!  that is what I had hoped were the reasons.  In this case I think my best bet is bringing in cuttings from Thailand from my own trees which are prolific and fast growing as banyan trees and have high quality fruit. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mulberries in Hawaii
« on: September 16, 2019, 09:56:20 PM »
Just me or noone is commercially growing mulberries in Hawaii.  Is there a good reason for this?  Want to set up mulberries as a hedge and windbreak for 5 acre lot.  I have seen a few mulberry trees but fruit never blackened and was small.  That is not sellable quality.

If have to will bring back my own cuttings from my trees in Thailand, but hopefully get some tips from people here.    Going to see a friends mulberry tree soon, hopefully he had a better strain.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai Dwarf Mulberries - How Hardy?
« on: September 16, 2019, 09:47:50 PM »
what makes them dwarf?   Never heard of these dwarf Thai mulberries in Thailand, although had some stunted Thai mulberries before I dug out and burned.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Purple passionfruut comparison
« on: September 15, 2019, 07:47:34 PM »
kind of look all red.. perhaps just too much sunlight.  I've had plenty deep dark purple passionfruit before, and the taste was so much better than reds. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's in season now in Maui?
« on: September 15, 2019, 07:46:14 PM »
Maui has several climates... so maybe you can get lucky with persimmon or blackberries.
On Oahu breadfruit is really going off, got rambutan shipped in from Kauai, dragonfruit is heavily producing, some varieties of avocados and mangoes are just starting to mature now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Li jujube dead after 1 week?
« on: September 15, 2019, 01:20:41 PM »
could be that the tree is shocked and dehydrated, it is quite tall, a result of overcrowding and shading at the nursery.  Hopefully will make a comeback!  You can try putting some poles with shade cloth to block some sun, only allowing for evening or morning sun only.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: anaphylactic shock from yellowjackets
« on: September 15, 2019, 12:54:13 AM »
got 4 paper wasp stings today... one near wrist, two under the eye, and one on my back.  A bit of itchyness and swelling close to where stung, but otherwise fine.  Not sure why I'm so sensitive to yellowjackets.  I've never had any breathing issues with any other insects, and been stung by fire ants, centipedes, scorpions, giant water bug, over 100 bee stings at one time.

Will only really know more until a yellowjacket gets me, but won't be going out of my way to get stung!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durian chicken nuggets!
« on: September 06, 2019, 01:38:22 PM »
If I read that right.. there is actually no chicken?  So just savory deep fat fried battered durian.

That sounds good, but KFC version looks very gooey inside, so the Durian must be adulterated with a lot corn syrup, sugar, oil, etc...


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mono cropping patches in subtropical food forest: mango avocado coffee macadamia
« on: August 31, 2019, 02:49:26 PM »
You could alternate coffee rows closely between each different type of tree, otherwise those trees need their space.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this breadnut or seeded breadfruit?
« on: August 28, 2019, 09:24:03 PM »
got update this kind called Maafala or Ma'afala not sure which way right to spell.  Prized variety

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