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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2014, 10:37:48 AM »
Impressive post. 

The seedling biriba - how old?  how tall?

about 3yr old...in a 15 gal, and 6ft tall.
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2014, 04:07:47 PM »
Some more fruits setting (should have more pics to share soon)
Lisa

Priestly

Na Dai

Geffner


rollinia emarginata...very few fruits set...I believe due to drought, and being root bound...but glad to see some holding on...despite leaf drop, from heat/drought.





and some photos of the promising biriba seedling...setting a bunch of fruits...very surprising...because it's so small...and hasn't really had tons of flowers...seems like a very high percentage of them set.  I remember the first flower ever to blossom on this tree set a fruit.

here is a pic of the whole tree...and some pics of the fruits setting all over it. 








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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2014, 07:46:43 PM »
Your annonas are beautiful, Adam! Thanks for sharing. How does one go about obtaining a "Mr. Minh's" cherimoya specimen?
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2014, 07:48:01 PM »
Here Adam, I'll see your annonas and raise you a few:

I got this Lisa in a 15 gallon from Excalibur a couple months back and popped it in the ground and its been going crazy setting fruit all on her own.

Nuathong..I hope this tastes better than the reports I've heard..only set one fruit even with hand pollination…I'll probably strip leaves if I don't start seeing flowers

Phet pack chong, got about 6 fruits so far

some Pajapita flowers looking like they getting get  some soon..

This Na Dai sugar apple I got from Bender's sets fruit by itself...

I'm up to about 8-10 fruit sets on my Genova Red ilama...







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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2014, 09:15:00 PM »
love the pictures of the illamas and 47 18.

your nuathong looks much different than the one I had...I wonder if it's the same...I got mine from a sale with plants furnished by Excalibur...nuathong was mislabeled as PPC...and ppc was mislabeled as nuathong.

the plant i have labeled as nuathong is bland...and seedy
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2014, 01:03:21 AM »
Adam, the 'Big Red' sugar apple (annona squamosa) that I bought/picked-up from you about a week ago is doing fine and I can't wait to find a spot to plant it in.

Originally, I was gonna rip out a 'Seedless' sugar apple that I have and replace it with the 'Big Red.' But, I 'wanna' give it a chance to prove itself.

I would kindly appreciate it if you could tell me what kind of fertilizer and regimen would you recommend in order to pump up the production and quality of my 'Seedless' sugar apple?
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2014, 06:28:24 AM »
love the pictures of the illamas and 47 18.

your nuathong looks much different than the one I had...I wonder if it's the same...I got mine from a sale with plants furnished by Excalibur...nuathong was mislabeled as PPC...and ppc was mislabeled as nuathong.

the plant i have labeled as nuathong is bland...and seedy
A few fruits that I have developing have been pollinated with some Genova Red pollen. In hopes of getting a self fruiting more precocious ilama. So far I have the following combos:
48-26 x Genova Red
47-18 x Genova Red
Na Dai sugar apple x Genova Red
Will be cool to see if it produces some viable seeds. There is always room around the fire stations for trials...

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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2014, 05:13:09 PM »
Adam, the 'Big Red' sugar apple (annona squamosa) that I bought/picked-up from you about a week ago is doing fine and I can't wait to find a spot to plant it.

Originally, I was gonna rip out a 'Seedless' sugar apple that I have and replace it with the 'Big Red.' But, I 'wanna' give it a chance to prove itself.

I would kindly appreciate it if you could tell me what kind of fertilizer and regimen would you recommend in order to pump up the production and quality of my 'Seedless' sugar apple?

Leooel,

here is a link with a table that shows how to feed your atemoyas (sugar apples and other annonas)

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/mg332

here is also a quote from this link, I think you'll find it useful:

"Fertilizer recommendations are based on experience and observation. Frequent applications of small amounts of nitrogen containing fertilizer and watering during the growing season when there are prolonged dry periods is recommended (). After the third year, trees will begin to bear fruit and the strategy is to reduce the number of applications of nitrogen containing fertilizer. Minor element sprays to the foliage should contain magnesium, zinc, and manganese (some also contain boron, molybdenum and iron). Foliar sprays are most efficient from April to September.

Young trees should be fertilized with a complete fertilizer every six to eight weeks during the growing season (Table 2). A complete fertilizer is a fertilizer containing a source of nitrogen (N), phosphate (P), and potassium (K) (many also contain a source of magnesium, Mg). By convention fertilizer formulas are written as the percentage of nitrogen (N), phosphate (P2O5), and potassium oxide (K2O) (e.g., 6-8-9, 6% nitrogen, 8% phosphate and 9% potassium oxide). Suitable fertilizer formulations for atemoya include 2-8-8, 4-8-8, 6-6-6-3 or 8-3-9-5 or similar materials. Frequent applications at low rates will provide a more constant nutrient supply and reduce the potential for leaching of nutrients beyond the roots due to heavy rainfall."
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2014, 05:34:33 PM »
Great idea for a thread, will be fun to see what all you will be harvesting later this summer , or some maybe will not ripen until oct/november or December?  Sugar apples seem to start ripening around November or October on the north part of the big island of hawaii

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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2014, 06:22:34 PM »
I've never seen the nitidulid beetles inside of rollinia flowers...that is until today....I saw my small fruiting Biriba had some flowers blooming, and they were crawling with beetles!

take a look at the pics and you can even see a small beetle covered with pollen! (click image twice to see super detail!)

I'm wondering if my tree is so productive because this whole time beetles have been pollinating for me?  (the first few fruits that set over the winter were in a greenhouse...so I'm doubting they got pollinated by beetles)

pic of flower

pic of beetle covered in pollen!

beetles

pic of beetles



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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2014, 06:42:31 PM »
Yes Adam I have noticed these beetles in my dragon fruit blossom too beside white malay, Biriba, all my sugar apples, schlerderma and muricata.  Less so in the Coconut blossoms & starfruits.  I am glad you have a hard working pollinator. Never seen on surinam or papaya, something pollinate them at night. Since they appear five years ago, I have to cover my flowers to do the cross pollination that I want.
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2014, 12:18:44 AM »
Thank you Adam for the annona feeding link. I hope that my seedless sugar apple's reaction to your recommended feeding regimen will result in lots of huge seedless sugar apples.
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2014, 06:35:59 PM »
more pictures of the annona fruit set....collect the whole set.

yucatan

cornifolia

Dream

Biriba


big red

Israel Red (or what ever the other name is, M-16 P-5)

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R. sylvatica

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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2014, 09:23:51 PM »
Adam,

Great pics! I love the Israel Red, and of course Dream. Great job your going to be swimming in tasty Annona fruit soon.
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2014, 04:25:45 AM »
Adao and Mike, great pics! Ilama is one of me favourites...

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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2014, 06:58:32 PM »
Great pictures! Fun to see the variation in the different annonas. Here's my Gefner



My first year it has set fruit - whoo! I hand pollinated, but think I did get a few natural pollination too, I am seeing a lot of beetles. If you're wondering about all the stakes - this was the tree that was snapped off 8 inches from the ground 2 years ago in a wind storm. Not taking any chances this time! Some of the fruit are probably too close together, like on that last pic. Was pollinating all the flowers until I got the hang of it. Should I thin some of those? If so, how far apart should I space them on the branches?

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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2014, 10:36:22 PM »
Adam, Rollinia sylvatica looks great! One reference stated that this species usually has very few carpels (fruit), averaging about 30-50 per fruit. Does this seem about right to you?

Sunworshiper, did the tree snap at the graft (I am assuming it is grafted)? Otherwise, the tree looks very happy.

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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2014, 07:25:46 AM »
Luckily the break was well above the graft! This tree was grafted low only about 3 inches above soil level, so the break was several inches above it.

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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2014, 03:55:51 AM »
ATEMOYA GEFTNER



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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2014, 04:21:06 PM »
congrats Turgut!

if these fruits ripen will it be the first time you have tasted atemoya?
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2014, 10:45:13 AM »
I lost a couple of ilamas to some sort of blackening/calcification, I've seen this on other annonas too…also one got so large it broke the branch…Since I'm gonna have to trim the branch back Im just letting the fruit develop..there have been no noticeable effects from the breakage, the fruit and leaves continue to grow even after a month…These fruit seem like they getting pretty big!















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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2014, 01:29:37 PM »
Mike, thank you for sharing the pics. This ilamas look great! Is this Genova Red?
If you are trimming your tree, I would be very happy to buy you some budwood. So far my Genova grafts have not been successfull :(
Would you also sell later the seeds?

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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2014, 09:46:05 PM »
Nice work Mike....I can't think of many other growers in FL (or US) that have this one fruiting!

i bet your anxious to see some split!

looks like 50 days away
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2014, 10:00:06 PM »
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Re: Annona fruit set 2014
« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2014, 09:06:32 PM »
Nice pics everyone.. here is a sugar apple outside Kapau'u town in a local's front yard. it's the only sugar apple I know of growing here on the north part of the big island.. so they are rare to say the least.. one time a gentleman from India saw me eating one.. he asked me where did you get that? I said I picked them but far from where we are now... he asked if he could buy somewhere.. not here I told him.. I offered some but he politely resisted and told me to enjoy. He said In India the fruits name translates to 'winter fruit', they are in season during the winter time? He seemed very fond of them so I assume they have very good ones in India.. Enjoy


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