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What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« on: February 26, 2018, 09:57:26 AM »
Hello everyone.

I have a friend of mine traveling form the Philippines here to Uganda in May. She is ready to bring seeds back for me. What seeds would be reasonably easy for her to find and that I should  should I ask her for?

Anyone know what is normally grown in the Philipeans?

Thank you for your suggestions!

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 06:43:27 PM »
I've been told there is great Salak. My friend brought me some seeds and two made the journey. Most were taken from her. From what I can tell it is different than my three varieties.
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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 08:41:03 PM »
I've been told there is great Salak. My friend brought me some seeds and two made the journey. Most were taken from her. From what I can tell it is different than my three varieties.
Contrary to some reports indicating the abundance of salak in the Philippines, that fruit is nowhere to be found here. It's unheard of although rattan fruits which bear some resemblance to it is quite ubiquitous.

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 10:35:13 PM »
I've been told there is great Salak. My friend brought me some seeds and two made the journey. Most were taken from her. From what I can tell it is different than my three varieties.
Contrary to some reports indicating the abundance of salak in the Philippines, that fruit is nowhere to be found here. It's unheard of although rattan fruits which bear some resemblance to it is quite ubiquitous.

Ah! So JonM what fruit seeds would you suggest?

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 11:48:20 PM »
Phillippines is a big place, so all depend on what part they are going to? Langsat, in Phillippines called lanzones, is one fruit that is widely sold in season. In southernmost Mindanao there are durians, rambutans, and marangs.
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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2018, 12:22:04 AM »
Santol, although not sure if any will be in season...

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2018, 12:46:51 AM »
I have been to the Philippines many times. Most of the Filipino fruits are also available worldwide. If you are looking for specific cultivars, Guimaras and Indian mangoes are good. Other exotic fruits are sineguelas, santol, aratiles, dalandan (tropical orange, the best tasting orange around), Macapuno (mutant coconut, very good tasting too). Those are all good tasting fruits. I haven't tried the aratiles.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2018, 12:54:32 AM by Mugenia »

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2018, 01:19:04 AM »
I've been told there is great Salak. My friend brought me some seeds and two made the journey. Most were taken from her. From what I can tell it is different than my three varieties.
Contrary to some reports indicating the abundance of salak in the Philippines, that fruit is nowhere to be found here. It's unheard of although rattan fruits which bear some resemblance to it is quite ubiquitous.

Ah! So JonM what fruit seeds would you suggest?
As Mugenia has said, many fruits found here are found in many parts of the world. Adding to the relatively common fruits previously mentioned that I recommend are jackfuits, chicos, marangs, mangosteen, star apple(currently in season), bignay, duhat or java plum, starfruit, kamias, tamarind, guava, and macopa or Java apple and its close relatives, pili nuts, and sugar apples. Avocados are common but it's a lottery when it comes to quality. Aratiles is so common it's left to birds.
Lesser known species of fruits that are often only well known in some localities are acerola, Rollinia, mabolo or velvet apple(Diospyros blancoi), lipote(Syzygium curranii), chempedak(only in Palawan), gumihan or pedelai(Bicol Region), hagis(Syzygium sp. - can't find species name), camachile (Pithecellobium dulce), cashew, berba(Lemon drop mangosteen), binucao (Garcinia binucao? - don't know if sp. name is valid), pahutan(Mangifera altissima, Luzon), huani(Mangifera odorata, Mindanao), galo(Anacolosa fructescens), tabu(Willughbeia elmeri? - not universally recognized sp. name, Palawan), palau saguit-saguit(Willughbeia sarawakensis, Palawan), and Paratungon(Salak relative but sour and used in wine-making instead. Palawan), and the gymnosperm "bago"(Gnetum gnemon). I forgot some species but most of them are even rarer.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2018, 01:31:24 AM by JonM »

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2018, 01:33:19 AM »
I've been told there is great Salak. My friend brought me some seeds and two made the journey. Most were taken from her. From what I can tell it is different than my three varieties.
Contrary to some reports indicating the abundance of salak in the Philippines, that fruit is nowhere to be found here. It's unheard of although rattan fruits which bear some resemblance to it is quite ubiquitous.

Ok, you are both right. Salak is not found naturally in most of the Philippines but S. ramosiana is found in Palawan.  The flora of Palawan more closely resembles that of Borneo than that of the rest of the Philippines.  Reports are sketchy but it sounds like it is a species worth looking at further for its fruit.  I looked into a trip to Palawan earlier but it sounds like getting seeds out legally might be "complicated".

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2018, 01:36:18 AM »
I've been told there is great Salak. My friend brought me some seeds and two made the journey. Most were taken from her. From what I can tell it is different than my three varieties.
Contrary to some reports indicating the abundance of salak in the Philippines, that fruit is nowhere to be found here. It's unheard of although rattan fruits which bear some resemblance to it is quite ubiquitous.

Ok, you are both right. Salak is not found naturally in most of the Philippines but S. ramosiana is found in Palawan.  The flora of Palawan more closely resembles that of Borneo than that of the rest of the Philippines.  Reports are sketchy but it sounds like it is a species worth looking at further for its fruit.  I looked into a trip to Palawan earlier but it sounds like getting seeds out legally might be "complicated".

John
S. ramosiana is called "Paratungon". Quite sour though, like rattan

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2018, 01:48:11 AM »

Ok, you are both right. Salak is not found naturally in most of the Philippines but S. ramosiana is found in Palawan.  The flora of Palawan more closely resembles that of Borneo than that of the rest of the Philippines.  Reports are sketchy but it sounds like it is a species worth looking at further for its fruit.  I looked into a trip to Palawan earlier but it sounds like getting seeds out legally might be "complicated".

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S. ramosiana is called "Paratungon". Quite sour though, like rattan
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I guess I had forgotten the common name.  According to an article in Agribusiness (July 24, 2013), it reports some varieties of paratungon are "sweet and acidic" so it sounds like there may be some more useful varieties.

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2018, 05:38:41 AM »
Wow thank you for those lists that is VERY helpful. I need to find out which island she is on. But it is helpful to have the local names and see what she can bring back!

Here in Uganda most of the fruit are the same common ones. Mango, papaya, jackfruit and pineapple. So the more we can diversify the better!

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2018, 09:30:45 AM »
I've been to the Philippines about 10 times and enjoy their fruit tremendously. My favorites are Durian( which has quite large seeds but would be awsome to grow in other places), Rambutan (really sweet like lychees), star apple (caimito), Sugar apple(atemoya, Atis), Marang (sweet and creamy), mangosteen. All these have small seeds and easy to travel with. For Mango, I think there are better selections in florida or Hawaii. I did not particularly care for Lanzones. They were a pain to peel, sticky, made a mess, and mostly sour with bitter seeds in them. I like my fruits sweet! Another thing I liked were the young coconuts(Buko), but I'm sure you could not travel with them. Let us know what you are able to get!
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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2018, 01:07:26 PM »
To add to Jon's list, above, there are a few Artocarpus species are not well known outside of the Philippines, A. blancoi ("antipolo"),  A. cumingiana ("anubing"), A. treculianus ("tipuho").  Info seems kind of sketchy on them but antipolo seems to be eaten as a vegetable.  References say tipuho is eaten but I am not sure if it is as a fruit or vegetalble; the leaves are evidently used to wrap food.   I did not come across any info on how anubing is used (food-wise) but I believe that the seeds of all Artocarpus are edible.  I suspect that at least one of these species is here in Hawaii as the Filipino farmers sometimes sell an immature green Artocarpus here that resembles a breadfruit.

Garcinia binucao, that Jon mentioned above, is also known as "batuan".  That was the common name I came across for it when I had been researching Philippine fruits for a potential trip.

When I was comprising a spreadsheet of Philippine fruit, I came up with something like 70+ species (including some found only on Palawan) but I do not know how common some of these are or how good the fruit is.  I also did not reach the point of finding common names for most of them.  So, there are plenty of fruit options there...

If you do a search for "Co's Digital Flora of the Philippines", you'll find a wealth of info on species that occur there & on which islands they are found.

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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2018, 06:55:31 AM »
Hmm... those artocarpus would be good to try but I think my friend would be unlikely to be able to hunt for them. There are limits to what one can ask non  fruitiphyle friends to do!!

However all these ideas have been fantastic! Thank you so much!

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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2018, 07:02:21 AM »
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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2018, 07:04:09 AM »
I've been told there is great Salak. My friend brought me some seeds and two made the journey. Most were taken from her. From what I can tell it is different than my three varieties.
Contrary to some reports indicating the abundance of salak in the Philippines, that fruit is nowhere to be found here. It's unheard of although rattan fruits which bear some resemblance to it is quite ubiquitous.

Ah! So JonM what fruit seeds would you suggest?
As Mugenia has said, many fruits found here are found in many parts of the world. Adding to the relatively common fruits previously mentioned that I recommend are jackfuits, chicos, marangs, mangosteen, star apple(currently in season), bignay, duhat or java plum, starfruit, kamias, tamarind, guava, and macopa or Java apple and its close relatives, pili nuts, and sugar apples. Avocados are common but it's a lottery when it comes to quality. Aratiles is so common it's left to birds.
Lesser known species of fruits that are often only well known in some localities are acerola, Rollinia, mabolo or velvet apple(Diospyros blancoi), lipote(Syzygium curranii), chempedak(only in Palawan), gumihan or pedelai(Bicol Region), hagis(Syzygium sp. - can't find species name), camachile (Pithecellobium dulce), cashew, berba(Lemon drop mangosteen), binucao (Garcinia binucao? - don't know if sp. name is valid), pahutan(Mangifera altissima, Luzon), huani(Mangifera odorata, Mindanao), galo(Anacolosa fructescens), tabu(Willughbeia elmeri? - not universally recognized sp. name, Palawan), palau saguit-saguit(Willughbeia sarawakensis, Palawan), and Paratungon(Salak relative but sour and used in wine-making instead. Palawan), and the gymnosperm "bago"(Gnetum gnemon). I forgot some species but most of them are even rarer.


Very good list !
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Re: What Seeds to bring back from the Philippines
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2018, 11:54:19 AM »
I've been told there is great Salak. My friend brought me some seeds and two made the journey. Most were taken from her. From what I can tell it is different than my three varieties.
Contrary to some reports indicating the abundance of salak in the Philippines, that fruit is nowhere to be found here. It's unheard of although rattan fruits which bear some resemblance to it is quite ubiquitous.

Ah! So JonM what fruit seeds would you suggest?
As Mugenia has said, many fruits found here are found in many parts of the world. Adding to the relatively common fruits previously mentioned that I recommend are jackfuits, chicos, marangs, mangosteen, star apple(currently in season), bignay, duhat or java plum, starfruit, kamias, tamarind, guava, and macopa or Java apple and its close relatives, pili nuts, and sugar apples. Avocados are common but it's a lottery when it comes to quality. Aratiles is so common it's left to birds.
Lesser known species of fruits that are often only well known in some localities are acerola, Rollinia, mabolo or velvet apple(Diospyros blancoi), lipote(Syzygium curranii), chempedak(only in Palawan), gumihan or pedelai(Bicol Region), hagis(Syzygium sp. - can't find species name), camachile (Pithecellobium dulce), cashew, berba(Lemon drop mangosteen), binucao (Garcinia binucao? - don't know if sp. name is valid), pahutan(Mangifera altissima, Luzon), huani(Mangifera odorata, Mindanao), galo(Anacolosa fructescens), tabu(Willughbeia elmeri? - not universally recognized sp. name, Palawan), palau saguit-saguit(Willughbeia sarawakensis, Palawan), and Paratungon(Salak relative but sour and used in wine-making instead. Palawan), and the gymnosperm "bago"(Gnetum gnemon). I forgot some species but most of them are even rarer.


Very good list !
Thank you very much.
And oh, this article should add more fruits to the list though the area where the study was conducted is in the Cordilleras.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4025321/#!po=21.9101
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