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is this mango malformation disease.
« on: October 11, 2015, 09:49:12 AM »
Is this mango malformation disease? I wasn't aware of this disease back when I purchased the plant from the nursery.



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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2015, 10:09:30 AM »
I'm not a mango expert but that does not look like Mango Malformation to me. The new growth looks uniform and new growth does not appear to have the symptoms of fusarium, typically witches broom type growth. See pic in attached link. https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/plants/health-pests-diseases/a-z-significant/mango-malformation-disease

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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2015, 11:24:08 AM »
Is the witches broom type growth any problem for the plant or is it normal? Thank you.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2015, 02:31:01 PM »
It is a problem for the plant and can stunt the growth of the tree, less so for larger established trees. Your yields will also be decreased as MMD on blooms may cause an increase number of male and Hermaphrodite flowers. Some articles I found say that diseased blooms will not yield fruit but there is also mention that fruit from plants with MMD is safe to eat. Perhaps they are referring to parts of the plants that were not affected by MMD?

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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2015, 05:42:22 PM »
I can't see this malformation....where is it?

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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 03:17:15 PM »
I can't see this malformation....where is it?


I'm not sure if it is mango malformation but was worried it might be because of the area around the new growth looks a bit messy.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 03:54:34 PM »
It does Not look like MMD. If the rootstock is vigorous, it is not uncommon to see multiple sprouts arise from the growing points.

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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2015, 03:58:49 PM »
It does Not look like MMD. If the rootstock is vigorous, it is not uncommon to see multiple sprouts arise from the growing points.

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Thanks. That's a relief.
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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2015, 04:20:03 PM »
Keep an eye on both those points.  While I dont think it is it looks a little suspicious from the pictures.  If it does turn out to be MMD, cound three nodes below the MMD location and prune the limb at that point and then spray with a heavy dosage of copper.  If you do need to prune this out, be sure to wipe down your pruners with a fairly strong bleach solution before and after each cut.

In any event, at this time for precautionary reasons only, if you prune this tree, wipe down your pruners with a fairly strong bleach solution before and after each cut.
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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2015, 05:17:03 PM »
nakulv1

India is notorious for Mango Malformation I would wait for another flush and as Rob mention cut that branch off and nuke it with malathion sterilize your tools.


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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2015, 05:48:30 PM »
nakulv1

India is notorious for Mango Malformation I would wait for another flush and as Rob mention cut that branch off and nuke it with malathion sterilize your tools.

MMD is fungal, malathion is an insecticide, has no control over fungal matters.
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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2015, 09:33:05 PM »
nakulv1

India is notorious for Mango Malformation I would wait for another flush and as Rob mention cut that branch off and nuke it with malathion sterilize your tools.

MMD is fungal, malathion is an insecticide, has no control over fungal matters.

Thanks Rob I checked an Indian study Behl send on MMD a few years ago

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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2015, 09:55:03 PM »
I agree that those two places look suspicious--- not normal.
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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2015, 11:58:31 AM »
Trees with floral MMD will often exhibit that sort of distorted growth in the picture on some of their limbs, without completely distorting the new leaves and shoots as occurs in the foliar form of the disease.

It is a problem for the plant and can stunt the growth of the tree, less so for larger established trees. Your yields will also be decreased as MMD on blooms may cause an increase number of male and Hermaphrodite flowers. Some articles I found say that diseased blooms will not yield fruit but there is also mention that fruit from plants with MMD is safe to eat. Perhaps they are referring to parts of the plants that were not affected by MMD?

Simon

They can still set fruit but the male/female ratio is very poor and the malformed panicles are considerably more prone to other fungal infections such as antrhacnose than panicles from uninfected limbs.


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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2015, 01:23:31 PM »
Thanks for the information everyone, still learning as I grow. I wonder if you will get normal elongation of the vegetative growth? The new growth with leaves expanding still looks normal to me. I wonder if recent pruning removing apical dominance or if any recent strange weather is causing the growth. Please keep us updated. Is it possible for you to submit samples to your local Ag department?

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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2015, 01:37:22 PM »
nakulv1

India is notorious for Mango Malformation I would wait for another flush and as Rob mention cut that branch off and nuke it with malathion sterilize your tools.

MMD is fungal, malathion is an insecticide, has no control over fungal matters.

Thanks Rob I checked an Indian study Behl send on MMD a few years ago

Is that because fungal diseases are spread by the insects? I'd love to know the reasoning.
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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2015, 08:29:25 AM »
The new growth looks fine but has too many leaves clustered together. The new shoots aren't very long and hence the cluster formation.









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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2015, 10:40:30 AM »
The new growth still looks normal to me, I get bunched up growth like that when I have strong push of buds.

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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2015, 04:04:27 AM »
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Re: is this mango malformation disease.
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2015, 11:25:19 AM »
Thanks, that one is a Double Greenwood Grafted Jumbo Kesar on double Manilla rootstock. Here is more information on my double rootstock trees, http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=16549.0

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