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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help strange disease on FL tomatoes
« on: April 14, 2024, 11:49:21 AM »
What do you consider successful. I'd love to see these shade grown tomato plants. Personally, Ive never even seen tomatoes for sale in the grocery from Florida.

I have farmed both coastal and inland foothills here in San Diego. There's a reason no commercial tomato grows are along the foggy marine layered coast. If you're saying shade is no problem for tomato production, then show me the evidence.

Also, yes there are a lot of successful greenhouse tomato grows in pots. But, what's the growing medium and how large is the pot?

The most concerning part of this whole post is no one mentioned the variety of tomato being grown. So yes, case closed. Bugs killed a plant put in the wrong location.


I have seen tomatoes grown very successfully in pots here in Florida (where nematodes can be a limiting factor for in-ground plants). I have also grown cherry, grape, and Campari tomatoes in shade (in the ground). I don't see any signs of a leaf disease like septoria, or early/late blight. I would be looking at a soil borne disease like fusarium or verticulum. If the plant dies, cut into the stem and look for brown dead streaks in the stem. I would also think that one of those is more likely if you have been growing the plant in the same medium as a diseased plant from before. Fresh plants in fresh soil would likely help for next year (we've passed the time to plant here in Florida now).

Idk if you're aware, but your posts come off as needlessly aggressive. You were wrong, his problem is mites not what you said, and you're perpetuating myths like water on tomato leaves causing sunburn... Now still trying to argue that you were right. Anyway, here's my local university's master gardener program saying to shade your tomatoes: https://ccmg.ucanr.edu/EdibleGardening/Protecting_Tomatoes_during_Hot_Summer_Days/

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Guabiju Seed & Scion Sale
« on: April 12, 2024, 02:05:04 PM »
Thanks Jonah! The taste was surprising given the descriptions I've heard of this fruit. Thin but clearly inedible skin, pretty small seed, really nice mild sweet floral flavor, similar to blueberry, minus the skin, but with this great rose-like flavor. Reminds me of hoya flower nectar/sap (if you haven't tried it, you're missing out!) No issues separating the flesh from the skin or seed like with jaboticabas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Id plant please..
« on: April 10, 2024, 10:58:19 AM »
Avocado?
Kadsura coccinea
Eugenia uniflora
?
Pouteria sp.
Citrus?
Psidium myrtoides
Psidium sp.
Eugenia sp. Best guess Rio Murta Paraniba
Eugenia florida
Eugenia sp.? Unhappy grimal?
Eugenia sp.? Unhappy grimal?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any way to tell the sex of . . .
« on: April 09, 2024, 02:38:06 PM »
Please include the species in the title. No need for clickbait.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit tree ID (in Miami)
« on: April 05, 2024, 03:44:20 PM »
I don't see how that could be anything but a Ficus sp. Maybe Ficus nervosa or drupacea.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone Pushing the Sapote Family
« on: April 04, 2024, 07:46:35 PM »
P. hypoglauca is supposed to be pretty hardy too, right? My green sapotes hate the cold. Lucuma seems tough, but I don't think I've ever left them unprotected from frost. I've heard canistel is pretty tough. I wouldn't be surprised if it's hardier than green sapote. Ross sapote is said to be more sensitive than canistel.

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Actually glad to hear it, with how frost-sensitive, and still-fruitless they are.

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I grow mine in a mix of loam, peat, and sand. They still die back and take forever to grow. I think it has to do with the freshness of the seeds. I agree on the pure peat and perlite mixes in principle, but I can't argue with the results a lot of growers have with those.

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Don't give up on old seeds unless they're rotten. Red take forever for me. I planted a bunch a year ago, and probably 20% have come up. The rest of the seeds are still green under the soil, just come up in their own time.

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Glad to hear the fruit is good. Only one plant?

Mine didn't even lose its leaves this winter. It's like 8 ft tall with a dozen stems. Idk how much more time to give it to produce complete flowers. It's budding up now, last chance I think.

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Can you do bridge grafts? Look up "bridge grafting girdled tree"

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing out Mouriri?
« on: March 20, 2024, 06:55:33 PM »
Jk I just noticed one of the survivors is fried, and the other looks iffy. Maybe they don't like sun? Or something else went wrong.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seattle has fresh durian.
« on: March 20, 2024, 01:30:09 PM »
I didn’t try durian until a couple years ago and that aroma pulled me right in. It doesn’t smell bad to me at all it’s this fruity sweet delicious smell. Freeze dried durian is by far the greatest way to introduce someone to durian. My mom hated all durian until she was really hungry and asked for some of my freeze dried durian; she loved it and is now addicted. They sell packets of it in my Asian market but you could probably find some online although it’ll be expensive. I go through 3 packets a day if I have them. I have to stop myself or I’ll break the bank. As expensive as it is Yearofthedurian is the only place I’ve been able to buy quality non dried durian. Eating half frozen black thorn is one of the greatest sensory experiences one can have

please let me know what variety of durian has sweet aroma and great taste. I will plant it. I am in So. Cal. I hope it can grow here.
It can't.

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IMO left to right:
Fig? Pomegranate? Weirdly small if it's supposed to be a pomegranate. The fruit shows persistent sepals, which could be a pom, probably not a fig. They should be pointed on a pomegranate though. They seem to have been made deliberately paddle-like, getting wider not narrowing to a point, very un-pomegranate-like. The curved attached stem looks odd for a pomegranate too. The stem makes me think fig, but the persistent sepals don't fit.
Citron? (deliberately lumpy)
Grapes
Apple
Carob?
Pear
Rose
Some asteraceae, daisy/sunflower family
Wheat

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Natural Farming?
« on: March 03, 2024, 12:18:04 PM »
Would be nice to see your posts, but if you can't handle a little criticism, probably for the best. I don't see anybody bullying or trolling you. Watching your content = stalking? Ok I won't.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 01, 2024, 11:21:39 AM »
Like I said, there's a lot of identical looking figs on his website. I'm not going to waste my time and point every single one of them out for you. I bet I can look at 90% of his figs and find an existing variety that looks identical. So if he's claiming to be finding seedlings, how was one of them Razz Jelly an already existing variety. Makes me skeptical on the background of some of these "seedlings"

Compare their varieties to the ones on this site

https://onegreenworld.com/product-category/fruiting-trees-shrubs/fig/?orderby=price-desc
What am I supposed to see?
https://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-home/826825-crema-di-fragola-fig-new-seedling-found-to-be-common

Looks like someone else found it too and gave it that name. And I mean... figs look like figs... Legit I took your word on this at first, and wanted this to be a juicy scandal, but if this is all your evidence...

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 01, 2024, 11:00:33 AM »
What's your source that he's rebranding popular figs?

Here's one example.


It's not like he renamed Black Mission and claimed it was a feral seedling he found though, right? What's the issue with this one? It was a seedling in an olive orchard that multiple people named. I'm open to this guy being a jerk and a con artist, but where's the evidence?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 01, 2024, 12:37:34 AM »
What's your source that he's rebranding popular figs?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is this common Ecuador fruit?
« on: February 27, 2024, 12:50:15 PM »
Quararibea cordata

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@Cerakat @nateTheGreat Could we get updates on these white flesh green sapote seedlings?
I think I got 3 that survived the first winter. One died after transplanting, and I have one left, in the tall pot amid normal green sapotes. It actually takes the cold a bit better.


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I think it may be one (of many) Philodendron species, my best guess is Philodendron jacquinii based on the leaf.

Images of the fruit look similar as well, though I cant find much consistent documentation or pictures on immature and ripe fruits.
There's photos of heart-leaf philodendron fruits, which are much more elongated, so I'd guess other philodendrons would be too. That was one I was considering as well. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/43357592

iNaturalist's observations in the Aroid family in Belize, for other possibilities: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=6953&subview=map&taxon_id=48536&view=species



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Maybe Syngonium podophyllum. Here's the unripe fruit looking similar: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/49080437

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You can use a vice grip. Adjust it so when closed it fits the seed exactly, open it, tighten it a tiny bit, close, open, tighten, etc until it cracks. Whether it's necessary though idk. I've cracked Pouteria seeds and had them not sprout, have had non-cracked ones sprout. When in doubt I don't crack.

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I don't know why they wouldn't. Your climate isn't that different.

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