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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2017, 10:47:00 AM »
Thanks for taste report Oscar, besides creamy taste what other profile can you add to taste?If i remember right wasn't it supposed to have a garlic or onion taste ?
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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2017, 01:25:05 PM »
if the fruits still going to be in season in a few weeks id be interested in trying some

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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2017, 06:19:03 PM »
Has anyone fruited chucte in Florida or California? Any photos?
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« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2017, 07:44:54 PM »
Hi Oscar, this probably doesnt help but somewhere on Hawai'i is a guy called Jay Bost. He has written quite a few articles on this fruit and may have trees, He would possibly know of any mainland specimens.

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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2017, 12:08:23 AM »
Hi Oscar, this probably doesnt help but somewhere on Hawai'i is a guy called Jay Bost. He has written quite a few articles on this fruit and may have trees, He would possibly know of any mainland specimens.
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Never heard of him. Any links to his articles?
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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2017, 01:23:14 AM »
He may have fruiting trees.

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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2017, 01:26:55 AM »
He may have fruiting trees.
Will try to contact him, don't know how much good it will do me as he's on a different island (Oahu).
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« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2017, 01:41:37 AM »
Not sure but I have been told by a mutual acquaintance that  he is a mad keen chucte fan.

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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2017, 02:41:27 AM »
Not sure but I have been told by a mutual acquaintance that  he is a mad keen chucte fan.
I would think so given that he wrote his master's thesis on it, and writes articles with titles like:
Persea schiedeana: A High Oil “Cinderella Species” Fruit with Potential for Tropical Agroforestry Systems
 8) 8)
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« Reply #61 on: July 18, 2017, 04:33:07 AM »
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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #62 on: July 18, 2017, 11:52:13 AM »
Has anyone fruited chucte in Florida or California? Any photos?

I asked this question through CRFG and the only word that came back was from Julie Frink (who would know) that there is a tree that is thought to be a cross between Avocado and Chucte that has not fruited in the UC collection in Irvine.  There also were several trees of straight Chucte in the fruit tree collection at UCLA (back when UCLA had a collection), but I think all those trees were cut down -- I remember reading mentions of it in old California Avocado Society yearbooks.
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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2017, 12:29:34 PM »
Not sure but I have been told by a mutual acquaintance that  he is a mad keen chucte fan.
I would think so given that he wrote his master's thesis on it, and writes articles with titles like:
Persea schiedeana: A High Oil “Cinderella Species” Fruit with Potential for Tropical Agroforestry Systems
 8) 8)

I have a small tree growing here in Florida; seed came from the above author.

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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #64 on: July 18, 2017, 07:12:02 PM »
All available seeds have been claimed. If you asked previous to today about getting seeds and have not heard back still small chance you might get some. You will hear from me shortly.
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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #65 on: July 18, 2017, 09:10:19 PM »
It will be interesting to compare the fruit from the seedling you have from Jay to Oscars one. I  wonder if he took seed from the best quality fruit in his research. Im guessing the one at ucl the crfg are talking about is either g755c aka martin grande, a rootstock of Guatemalan x scheideana parentage or G875 a persea listed as probably not P. Americana . It is assumed to be a persea Hybrid as well. This paper has some neat tables showing the relations between the wild sp and cultivars. UCL did used to have P. Scheideana as well.

https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article/94/5/407/2187292/Microsatellite-Markers-in-Avocado-Persea-americana
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« Reply #66 on: July 18, 2017, 09:46:34 PM »
It will be interesting to compare the fruit from the seedling you have from Jay to Oscars one. I  wonder if he took seed from the best quality fruit in his research. Im guessing the one at ucl the crfg are talking about is either g755A aka martin grande, a rootstock of Guatemalan x scheideana parentage or G875 a persea listed as probably not P. Americana . It is assumed to be a persea Hybrid as well. This paper has some neat tables showing the relations between the wild sp and cultivars. UCL did used to have P. Scheideana as well.

https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article/94/5/407/2187292/Microsatellite-Markers-in-Avocado-Persea-americana

Yeah, that would be very interesting.  Here's what Julie Frink's email said:

"We have an avocado that it called G755C and is an avocado X Schiedeana that was going to be tried as a root rot resistant rootstock.  The tree gets huge, does flower, but hasn't had any fruit, at least in the last 22 years."


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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2017, 06:38:17 AM »
Here is a photo comparing leaves and fruits of chucte and an avocado, Malama cultivar. As you can see the chucte leaves are very large in comparison.


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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2017, 07:12:09 AM »
Its like avo on steroids 😮

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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2017, 08:26:36 AM »
I can't get this to hold fruit here in bokeelia does it not like lowland heat humid?Had it since 2005 from budwood from frankies but fruit abort at nickel size.Pollination?

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« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2017, 09:06:30 AM »
Theres been little work done on its pollination requirements that I can find, I couldnt find if it comes in A or B types or if it has climatic perculiarities..  I suppose a Guatemalan could possibly cross pollinate it as the g755c is a hybrid of such.
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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #72 on: July 19, 2017, 09:28:22 AM »
I need to get some seeds ,see if it does any thing from seed it,s frustrating

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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #73 on: July 19, 2017, 09:49:03 AM »
If the one you have isnt from Oscar, grab some budwood off him and graft it with the other . Should help.

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Re: Growing Chucte (Persea schiedeana) Relative of Avocado
« Reply #74 on: July 19, 2017, 10:03:24 AM »
okay ill find out if it's diffrent

 

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