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Title: Campomanesia Species
Post by: edself65 on May 06, 2012, 08:24:22 PM
I was wondering which Campomanesia species everyone is growing? Which ones taste the best?

Campomanesia xanthocarpa is growing really well for me!

Thanks,

Ed
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: edself65 on May 06, 2012, 08:26:14 PM
Found this photo of Campomanesia xanthocarpa on the web:

(http://s13.postimage.org/bmqjqgxhv/Dsc05404.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bmqjqgxhv/)

Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: Tomas on May 06, 2012, 09:17:10 PM
Hi Ed,

I have had trouble to grow both Campomanesia sessiliflora and Campomanesia adamantium. C. lineatifolia seems a little easier. I have never tasted one myself. But a friend in Brazil told me that his favorites are C. lineatifolia and C. laurifolia. Another guy in Brazil who has tasted 12 Campomanesia  species told me that "Campomanesia lineatifolia is by far the best one. C. xanthocarpa and C. schlechtendaliana are also good".

I hope this helps a little.

Tomas
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: edself65 on May 06, 2012, 09:22:28 PM
Thanks for info Tomas! I agree I am also having trouble with Campomanesia sessiliflora and Campomanesia adamantium! C. xanthocarpa is very easy to sprout and grow!

Thanks,

Ed
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: edself65 on May 07, 2012, 05:12:59 AM
Campomanesia Species in bloom:


(http://s13.postimage.org/x6pmn8g2b/Dsc05404.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/x6pmn8g2b/)

Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: Tomas on May 07, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
Ed,

Is that yours blooming?

Tomas
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on May 07, 2012, 10:42:47 AM
Tomas,

Did your adamantium sprout?

I have some that were given to me sprouted, and they get chlorotic very fast with city water!

I have to drench them with iron all the time.

They keep going from yellow to green! and they take much more water than I thought...I figured I would have rotted the roots like other cerrado sp...M. nana....(mine are doing so poorly!)  I hope they bounce back!



Hi Ed,

I have had trouble to grow both Campomanesia sessiliflora and Campomanesia adamantium. C. lineatifolia seems a little easier. I have never tasted one myself. But a friend in Brazil told me that his favorites are C. lineatifolia and C. laurifolia. Another guy in Brazil who has tasted 12 Campomanesia  species told me that "Campomanesia lineatifolia is by far the best one. C. xanthocarpa and C. schlechtendaliana are also good".

I hope this helps a little.

Tomas
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: Tomas on May 07, 2012, 12:20:48 PM
Hi Adam,

Yes adamantium sprouted but then died (and they were even pampered with rain water). Yeah M. nana is a tricky one.  I have noticed that some of these cerrado species can be really a challenge.

Tomas
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: edself65 on May 07, 2012, 01:01:08 PM
Ed,

Is that yours blooming?

Tomas

No not my blooms Tomas! I wish! It is a photo I found on google.

Ed
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 28, 2012, 01:46:23 AM
C. adamantium
(http://fruitingplants.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/9-28-2012nvk-008-e1348810927183.jpg?w=768)
C. hirsuta
(http://fruitingplants.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/9-28-2012nvk-006.jpg?w=848)

C. xanthocarpa


(http://fruitingplants.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/9-28-2012nvk-005.jpg?w=848)

C. sessilifora (not pictured, but very small, and slow growing so far)

I'm a big fan of the campomanesia species already, and I haven't even tasted a fruit yet.

I'll keep u posted.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: fruitlovers on September 28, 2012, 02:16:59 AM
I'm a big fan of campomanesias also. Have some almost ready to taste. Hope i can beat the fruit flies to them.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: luc on September 28, 2012, 01:07:54 PM
I'm a big fan of campomanesias also. Have some almost ready to taste. Hope i can beat the fruit flies to them.

I don't remember how the taste was on the Campomanesias I brought back from Brazil , I hope it is not just another Guava like taste .
Have several 3 to 4 meter plants , one flowered this year , fruit aborted... .
Lots of C. hirsuta  , 1 meter , still in nursery bags .
Gotta check the linneatifolia , they have to be somewhere around , I do remember...not the easiest to keep alive.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: fruitlovers on September 29, 2012, 06:12:04 AM
I'm a big fan of campomanesias also. Have some almost ready to taste. Hope i can beat the fruit flies to them.

I don't remember how the taste was on the Campomanesias I brought back from Brazil , I hope it is not just another Guava like taste .
Have several 3 to 4 meter plants , one flowered this year , fruit aborted... .
Lots of C. hirsuta  , 1 meter , still in nursery bags .
Gotta check the linneatifolia , they have to be somewhere around , I do remember...not the easiest to keep alive.

Hi Luc, i ate a bunch of campomanesia fruits today. Still not sure what species it is? Was labeled phaea, but obviously not that. Then i thought must be lineatifolia, but doesn't match photos on the web. Anyway, they are creamy and a bit tarty. Not gritty or seedy like guava, and no strong perfumed aroma like guava. There were a bunch of fallen fruits under the tree and they were all still in good shape.Other good news is there were no fruit fly larvae.
(http://fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/CampomanesiaSp.jpg)
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: BMc on September 29, 2012, 06:23:18 AM
Did they have any seeds?
Looks seedless?
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: fruitlovers on September 29, 2012, 06:27:48 AM
Did they have any seeds?
Looks seedless?

Good eye, the couple that i ate so far were seedless. But i still have to go throught the others. I picked about 40 of them.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: huertasurbanas on September 29, 2012, 11:24:19 PM
Hi, I am "growing" campomanesia guazumifolia, just a week ago ... hehe, we will have to wait for it to flower and fruit (we are in the begining of the spring in argentina). Anyway, it's a very good looking ornamental tree, beautiful leaves and nice flowers. Cheers.s
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: siafu on September 30, 2012, 09:39:25 AM
Hi, I am "growing" campomanesia guazumifolia, just a week ago ... hehe, we will have to wait for it to flower and fruit (we are in the begining of the spring in argentina). Anyway, it's a very good looking ornamental tree, beautiful leaves and nice flowers. Cheers.s

 Indeed. I have that one I agree. I have another, which I cannot recall the name, that is also very nice looking.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: huertasurbanas on October 01, 2012, 09:04:07 PM
Did you tasted it? Mine seems to be sprouting some flowers... we are in the beginning of the spring here... I just planted it today, so I dont know if it will focus on root developing or will give us some food ;)


By the way, a nice video about "guavira" (Campomanesia xanthocarpa)

Plantas do Cerrado - Guavira.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5dL6l2EZtw#)

And another one about Cerrado fruits and guabiroba icecream

Série Cerrado - Ep.3 - O valor nutritivo das frutas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5uM-bryo8c#)

Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: BMc on October 04, 2012, 08:05:48 AM
Oscar, how were the rest of the campos? Did they all turn out seedless?
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: huertasurbanas on May 19, 2013, 07:17:06 PM
I got 18 seeds of C. lineatifolia, 5 of them germinated on the trip in a wet soil (the roots were growing up), and I want to ask you something:

I sowed 18, all., but of the 5 that were germinated I had no success with any! whereas the other 90% germinated ok

(http://s4.postimg.cc/6jo89ewmh/sam_3249.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6jo89ewmh/)

How can it be that when passing the seeds to the pots only died the ones that were already germinating? I do not understand.

Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: luc on May 19, 2013, 08:01:48 PM
I got 18 seeds of C. lineatifolia, 5 of them germinated on the trip in a wet soil (the roots were growing up), and I want to ask you something:

I sowed 18, all., but of the 5 that were germinated I had no success with any! whereas the other 90% germinated ok

(http://s4.postimg.cc/6jo89ewmh/sam_3249.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6jo89ewmh/)

How can it be that when passing the seeds to the pots only died the ones that were already germinating? I do not understand.



Shi....happens huertas ....
Same happened to me , don't remember what sp it was ...I am getting less and less excited by my Campomanesias , they just grow and grow . I think flowering for me will be later this year , hopefully some fruit set this time . Brazilian Psidiums are doing good
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: huertasurbanas on May 19, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Hey, do not be discouraged, there are many interesting things about campomanesias, have medicinal properties, they are very beautiful ornamental plants, and it seems that several of them are tasty fruits, especially lineatifolia, look at all that is said and done in Colombia on the chamba:

http://deliciasculinariasmirafloresboyaca.blogspot.com.ar/ (http://deliciasculinariasmirafloresboyaca.blogspot.com.ar/)



http://www.alcaldiamiraflores.gov.co/economia.htm (http://www.alcaldiamiraflores.gov.co/economia.htm)





And more info:

Artículos de interés:

http://es.calameo.com/read/000629146b652713e97f7 (http://es.calameo.com/read/000629146b652713e97f7)

http://giauptc.es.tl/Proyecto-CHAMPA.htm (http://giauptc.es.tl/Proyecto-CHAMPA.htm)

http://www.scielo.org.co/pdf/rudca/v12n2/v12n2a13.pdf (http://www.scielo.org.co/pdf/rudca/v12n2/v12n2a13.pdf)

http://www.bdigital.unal.edu.co/5048/ (http://www.bdigital.unal.edu.co/5048/)

http://www.ecured.cu/index.php/Champa#Proyecci.C3.B3n (http://www.ecured.cu/index.php/Champa#Proyecci.C3.B3n)

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/perfume-guava.htm (http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/perfume-guava.htm)

http://en.hortipedia.com/wiki/Campomanesia_lineatifolia (http://en.hortipedia.com/wiki/Campomanesia_lineatifolia)

Anti úlcera:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22178179?dopt=AbstractPlus (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22178179?dopt=AbstractPlus)

semillas Anti microbianas:

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/7738463_Champanones_yellow_pigments_from_the_seeds_of_champa_(Campomanesia_lineatifolia) (http://www.researchgate.net/publication/7738463_Champanones_yellow_pigments_from_the_seeds_of_champa_(Campomanesia_lineatifolia))

Anti-oxidantes en las hojas:

http://www.cifarp.com.br/cd2011/abstracts/NSP%20059%20-%20274.pdf (http://www.cifarp.com.br/cd2011/abstracts/NSP%20059%20-%20274.pdf)
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: fruitlovers on May 20, 2013, 02:24:19 AM
I got 18 seeds of C. lineatifolia, 5 of them germinated on the trip in a wet soil (the roots were growing up), and I want to ask you something:

I sowed 18, all., but of the 5 that were germinated I had no success with any! whereas the other 90% germinated ok

How can it be that when passing the seeds to the pots only died the ones that were already germinating? I do not understand.



some possibilities: sprout dried out, sprout broke.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: huertasurbanas on May 21, 2013, 04:10:04 AM
a jewel:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/zyJsgnDVUaw (http://www.youtube.com/embed/zyJsgnDVUaw)
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: fruitlovers on May 21, 2013, 04:28:50 AM
Have seeds available now of Campomanesia phaea, flying saucer fruit, or cambui. If interested please check my seed page: http://fruitlovers.com/seedlist.html (http://fruitlovers.com/seedlist.html)
Sorry for double posting on 2 threads, but thought it's worthwhile as i don't usually have this one available. The seeds i have now are already starting to sprout, so best to order right away if you want them.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: Mike T on May 21, 2013, 04:43:03 AM
Oscar C.phaea is an intriguing species. There is little to give a good indication of how good the taste is.How would you rate it as a fresh fruit?
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: fruitlovers on May 21, 2013, 05:01:50 AM
Oscar C.phaea is an intriguing species. There is little to give a good indication of how good the taste is.How would you rate it as a fresh fruit?

I've only had it once a few years ago in Brazil. I remember i thought it was surprisingly good, especially given that i'd heard that it was not so great. It has a strong fruity taste, a bit tarty, but found it very pleasant.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: emegar on May 21, 2013, 11:38:10 AM
Oscar,

If you don't mind my asking, are these seeds from a local source there, in Hawaii?  I know you said you thought you had C. phaea growing, but that the fruit form turned out to be wrong.  Have you had any success identifying the species you're growing?

James
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: fruitlovers on May 23, 2013, 12:30:11 AM
Oscar,

If you don't mind my asking, are these seeds from a local source there, in Hawaii?  I know you said you thought you had C. phaea growing, but that the fruit form turned out to be wrong.  Have you had any success identifying the species you're growing?

James

James, haven't Id'ed that one yet. The one i'm selling is definitely C. phaea or i wouldn't sell it as such!
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: emegar on May 23, 2013, 09:26:42 AM
I didn't think you would.  I was just curious whether the C. phaea was being grown by one of your contacts there in HI.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: huertasurbanas on May 24, 2013, 11:07:04 PM
Have seeds available now of Campomanesia phaea, flying saucer fruit, or cambui. If interested please check my seed page: http://fruitlovers.com/seedlist.html (http://fruitlovers.com/seedlist.html)
Sorry for double posting on 2 threads, but thought it's worthwhile as i don't usually have this one available. The seeds i have now are already starting to sprout, so best to order right away if you want them.

http://www.portalsaofrancisco.com.br/alfa/cambuci/cambuci-3.php (http://www.portalsaofrancisco.com.br/alfa/cambuci/cambuci-3.php)

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0100-29452005000200014 (http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0100-29452005000200014)
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: huertasurbanas on June 04, 2013, 07:48:30 PM
I love these leaves
(http://s15.postimg.cc/5qlqax0pz/SAM_3421.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5qlqax0pz/)
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: Luisport on December 16, 2013, 10:58:41 AM
Repórter Eco - 01/12/2013 - Bloco 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehyhi0R__NM#ws)
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: huertasurbanas on December 16, 2013, 12:21:55 PM
Thanks for the video Luis (I would like to grow cambucí!);

I went out and took some photos to the campomanesia lineatifolia seedlings, they sprouted on may, and now 7 month later they are like this:

(http://s30.postimg.cc/vvwzi8bj1/SAM_5604.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/vvwzi8bj1/)

(http://s30.postimg.cc/3x7f53za5/SAM_5605.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/3x7f53za5/)


I had some problems with dry conditions into the house in winter (you can see the damaged leaves still on them), so when I puted them into minigreenhouses they got better and better, then took them out in spring and now are taking some sun when the summer is about to begin... but the most part of the day are in shade.

They say maybe this is the tastier of campomanesias, in Colombia they know it.


http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2013/05/21/articulo-sobre-la-chamba-en-diario-colombiano/ (http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2013/05/21/articulo-sobre-la-chamba-en-diario-colombiano/)

(http://s30.postimg.cc/ehcr9yee5/SAM_5606.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ehcr9yee5/)

Out of 18 seeds, I think 16 or more germinated, 5 of which were already germinated in the envelope did not survive the planting (I dont know why!); of the remaining 11 I gave away 2 which I do not think they are alive, and here I have 5 that are ok and 1 is recovering slowly.

They tend to tangle when just germinate: the tangled generally do not survive ... if I had known, would have unraveled.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: Luisport on March 06, 2014, 08:48:39 AM
Hi everyone! Anyone have seeds of C. hirsuta and phaea? I'm interested to have them. Thank's! ;D
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: emegar on March 06, 2014, 09:18:14 AM
Oscar sells C. phaea seeds in season.  That's where I bought them.
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: Luisport on March 06, 2014, 09:30:34 AM
Oscar sells C. phaea seeds in season.  That's where I bought them.
Thank's! I will contact him! ;)
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: huertasurbanas on September 11, 2019, 07:22:52 AM
I'm a big fan of campomanesias also. Have some almost ready to taste. Hope i can beat the fruit flies to them.

I don't remember how the taste was on the Campomanesias I brought back from Brazil , I hope it is not just another Guava like taste .
Have several 3 to 4 meter plants , one flowered this year , fruit aborted... .
Lots of C. hirsuta  , 1 meter , still in nursery bags .
Gotta check the linneatifolia , they have to be somewhere around , I do remember...not the easiest to keep alive.

Hi Luc, i ate a bunch of campomanesia fruits today. Still not sure what species it is? Was labeled phaea, but obviously not that. Then i thought must be lineatifolia, but doesn't match photos on the web. Anyway, they are creamy and a bit tarty. Not gritty or seedy like guava, and no strong perfumed aroma like guava. There were a bunch of fallen fruits under the tree and they were all still in good shape.Other good news is there were no fruit fly larvae.
(http://fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/CampomanesiaSp.jpg)


Hi Oscar, did you ever knew what species is it? maybe C. sessiflora?
Title: Re: Campomanesia Species
Post by: fruitlovers on September 11, 2019, 05:16:30 PM
I'm a big fan of campomanesias also. Have some almost ready to taste. Hope i can beat the fruit flies to them.

I don't remember how the taste was on the Campomanesias I brought back from Brazil , I hope it is not just another Guava like taste .
Have several 3 to 4 meter plants , one flowered this year , fruit aborted... .
Lots of C. hirsuta  , 1 meter , still in nursery bags .
Gotta check the linneatifolia , they have to be somewhere around , I do remember...not the easiest to keep alive.

Hi Luc, i ate a bunch of campomanesia fruits today. Still not sure what species it is? Was labeled phaea, but obviously not that. Then i thought must be lineatifolia, but doesn't match photos on the web. Anyway, they are creamy and a bit tarty. Not gritty or seedy like guava, and no strong perfumed aroma like guava. There were a bunch of fallen fruits under the tree and they were all still in good shape.Other good news is there were no fruit fly larvae.
(http://fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/CampomanesiaSp.jpg)


Hi Oscar, did you ever knew what species is it? maybe C. sessiflora?
Marco Lacerda from Brazil visited me and told me that indeed it is C. phaea. He said there are different versions of phaea with different shaped fruits.