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Citrus General Discussion / Re: rootmaker pots
« on: May 16, 2014, 11:03:10 PM »
I read that somewhere on the rootmaker web site. I don't think it's the tap root. Maybe the pecan roots don't like air pruning. It's something like that. I will try to find it but I bet Millet will read this soon and be all over it. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: rootmaker pots
« on: May 16, 2014, 06:06:58 PM »
Millet, on the link you provided the 'new' pot licker also sounds very interesting. No picture yet. I have always liked the way the rootmaker pots sound and work but nobody around here uses them. There are some very savy growers around here but they sell their stuff so fast they don't think root maker type stuff is ' worth ' it. It makes perfect sense to me. It's a little weird the only thing not recommended to grow in rootmaker pots are pecan trees. Tom

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Sounds great. Thanks. Tom

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Thanks. I've heard of that trick and I'm sure it's ok depending on what is used to write with. The sunshine is tough when writing with permanent black magic markers. It fades in a year or so. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cold Hardy Citrus
« on: May 12, 2014, 10:10:55 PM »
eyeckr, where are you located ? manfromyard is probably from Atlanta or close by. The problem wasn't 2" of snow. The problem was bad icy conditions. Snow isn't too bad. Ice is bad. B'ham , Alabama got slammed too. Manfromyard could be somewhere between the Alabama line and Atlanta, Georgia. Tom

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First Found. Found in the first place. Not round. Excuse me for jumping in. Tom

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All great ideas. John your idea sounds excellent. Thanks ! Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / How do you keep varieties straight ?
« on: May 06, 2014, 11:35:44 PM »
Almost everything I've tried gets bleached out by the sun. The only thing that's ok so far are the small aluminum or copper tags that you engrave name and important information. Any better ideas ? Thanks. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gold Nugget Mandrin
« on: May 06, 2014, 10:28:32 PM »
Brian, I agree with you completely. I must note that I think you will still be disappointed some years anyway. I guess it like grapes. Some years are just better than others. Too many variables. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: No blooms on Satsumas in ground
« on: May 06, 2014, 10:23:22 PM »
Even though they didn't loose their leaves I think they are wary and taking their time!  I have been too careful about fertilizer and been too conservative before this year. I was afraid I might burn both the in ground and potted citrus. I watered the potted stuff so much it never showed any burn. We had so much rain on the in ground stuff they didn't burn at all either but I wasn't as worried about in ground. I'm thinking I will be going with 5 tablespoons of miracle grow in five gallons of water ASAP and saturate everything. I'll watch a week and probably put some more granular on too. Some new growth in ground but not a flush yet and it's getting late. In ground is on a raised bed and sandy so all the rain is probably the culprit except the potted stuff had rain and me watering when the pots did dry out between gully washes. I'm definitely still learning. Thanks. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: meyer lemon losing its fruit
« on: May 06, 2014, 09:39:18 PM »
I have a good sized Meyer in the ground. Two years ago I had 130 fruit and I was afraid I wouldn't have a crop this past year. I saw a few but not many. When I started picking I picked 70 this year. I had told several friends that I had about 20-25. My estimate was way off. This year I have had less than five blooms at any one time and I don't see any fruit. As you probably know the thorns are vicious. I could have five fruit hidden in there somewhere but I am still waiting for a flush of leaves or blooms. There is a little dead wood but over all the Meyer came through our winter real well with plenty of leaves. Our weather has been very erratic. We seemed to have gone from winter to summer with a very quick spring. Really almost no spring. Plenty of rain but plenty of cool temps too. I need to fertilize again. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: No blooms on Satsumas in ground
« on: May 06, 2014, 09:25:17 PM »
Millet, great point. I only covered them when we had horrible cold temps coming as in below 25 * F for long periods of time below freezing. Never more than 60 hours.  I would think they received plenty of chill hours. We had a terrible winter for us and I put the frost cloth up only when necessary because I didn't want to break dormancy.

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Citrus General Discussion / No blooms on Satsumas in ground
« on: May 05, 2014, 04:51:11 PM »
I have three Satsumas and one Meyer in ground at my farm. They had a tough winter but my protection held up and they did not defoliate. They are finally trying to have a flush of new leaves but very few blooms. I have less than five blooms on any of these trees. I have other trees in other places doing much better. The trees not doing anything are the biggest and oldest I have. Probably 8 years old and on dwarfing rootstock. The Meyer had 70 fruit last year and 130 the year before. Never much fruit on the Sats and I thought this might be a big year. Other Sats in other places are doing better. Not many insects on these trees either. The ones at home had lots of blooms and now lots of tiny fruit. The white flies exploded and I had to spray oil. Killed almost all white flies but these trees are loaded with fruit. Any ideas about why the older trees are doing so poorly? A friend has a tree we moved at his house three years ago for more sun. It looks great but no fruit or blooms either. Thanks. Tom in zone 8 on 5/5/14

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: meyer lemon losing its fruit
« on: May 04, 2014, 01:39:17 PM »
Redster, you could have another flush of blooms this year . Yes Meyer lemon can be bad about alternate bearing.

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RVACitrus, I couldn't agree more with what you said. It's definitely a weak link. Different soil types and other things we probably don't even know about cause erroneous answers, often unintentional. Magic like Dumbo's feather usually don't work. However I do believe in the placebo affect ! That's where the confusion comes into the equation.

Old proverb from somewhere : 'the best fertilizer is the master's footprint'.  When I was farming I read an article about farming by looking out your windshield. That doesn't work and gives a false sense of security. You must get out and look at what's going on. A quick ride by isn't going to get the job done.

Daddy said long ago, ' if you could take out the economics of real estate development, given enough time, the best farmers would end up with the best land every time everywhere '. The older I get the more I think there is no doubt about it.

Tom

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I am all for you having a Kishu. I think around here the fruit size tends to be much smaller. So small Kishu is definitely not a commercial variety. They are very cute and can be as small as the last joint of your little finger. Biggest I've seen was about like a golf ball but that's just me. They are very sweet but usually with the variety I'm calling Kishu you will get many sizes. I would personally call Kishu a great novelty tree. Xie Shan is fantastic and very early so it should be considered too. My suggestion would be variety of maturity dates and also concentrate on tasty varieties. You probably don't want everything ripe at the same time. That's just my 2 cents. Most people like them all !

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I've tried the methods listed above and they all work a little from time to time. We try to go dollar for dollar but she usually beats me with her jewelry. ' It's an investment '. It's not an investment if you won't sell it ! Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Borer in my Grapefruit tree
« on: April 22, 2014, 04:11:38 PM »
Darkman, I'm sorry I was thinking you were in Georgia. I'm sure Florida has a great Extension Service too. In Alabama they were in very county at one time but with all the belt tightening that is not always true now. Some places have an office covering two or three counties from one office. I'm 99 % sure there is a Florida Extension Service in Pensacola. You should bag up a representative sample and maybe take pictures too. Take into office while still fresh or call first and find out when an agent will be there. I will google on line to see if I can find it for you. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Borer in my Grapefruit tree
« on: April 21, 2014, 11:57:40 PM »
Georgia Extension could help with ID and they will use a microscope. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: minneola tangelo in container
« on: April 20, 2014, 10:21:44 PM »
Great info. Thanks. Smaller mandarins often taste better to me than the big ones. Same holds true about blueberries and blackberries, usually to me at least.  The best cantaloupe I ever had was unusually small. Tom

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I agree with you about oranges vs mandarins. The honey mandarin could be a Murcott. Murcotts are late and full of seeds. People have loved Murcott for along time. A Honey Mandarin could be a variety on its own but a lot of Murcotts are called Honey Mandarins. Very confusing to me. I think some Golden Nuggets get sold as Cuties. Some Cuties are fantastic. Some not as good. I think they will be better in a few years and if you grow them yourself. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Oranges Color and Taste Comparison
« on: April 20, 2014, 07:11:43 PM »
I've had great citrus from California and Florida but I had some Ruby grapefruit from Texas that were the best grapefruit I've ever tasted. So sweet it was unreal. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Easter Sunday
« on: April 20, 2014, 06:51:53 PM »
Yes. We had eating and robust social interaction. We went to church , ate great, and had an Easter egg hunt. We put $200 in plastic eggs and you should have seen our adult children looking for eggs. A very competitive group ! Nobody got hurt this year. I've seen small children get run over just a little bit, but not this year. Everybody is more mature. Ha !

Home made margaritas the night before and they wanted to know why I didn't have any home grown limes at Easter. Grocery store is better than nothing !

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: minneola tangelo in container
« on: April 20, 2014, 06:42:43 PM »
Great. That makes sense. Thanks. Tom

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Valentine Pumelo
« on: April 20, 2014, 05:55:01 PM »
Millet, I'm guessing a Pumelo left to hang as you suggest will taste much better than what I bought and did not like from a grocery store ? Tom

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