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Title: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: FMfruitforest on July 31, 2020, 05:23:54 AM
Good Morning, recently i have began reading Jadam Organic Farming book and I find it very intriguing. Is there any growers on here who use these methods and can post there results?

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Title: Re: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: Nyuu on July 31, 2020, 06:17:04 AM
There's another book you like read  cho's-global-natural-farming-sarra make by his father . The son supposedly what make less costly version .
Title: Re: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: Nyuu on July 31, 2020, 06:22:48 AM
Some people agree with one and not the other . But I said experiment
Title: Re: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: FMfruitforest on August 19, 2020, 11:52:57 AM
I have made liquid fertilizer with grasses and plant residues found in my yard according to the procedure in the book, Very Simple process. The fertilizer is ready for use after 12 days I have chosen 2 seedling guavas at exactly the same age and height to record my observations. The grass made fertilizer is slightly  pungent but is not overwhelming like i was expecting.
Title: Re: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: Tang Tonic on August 20, 2020, 09:00:02 AM
I'd love to hear more discussion on this.  I think it may be limited to those that have some acreage since it can get a bit stinky.

I am experimenting with this and so far have seen good results.

I am also interested in KNF method.  Jadam is easier to implement but KNF seems to be as good or better but need more inputs like sugar.

The other thing I am curious about is how this fits in with biochar, vermicomposting and activated aearated compost teas (AACT).  I think all of these methods can be combined to provide really nice soil enhancement without having to continue buying organic or chemical fertilizers.

Here's what I've done so far and what I plan to do:

I have a  JADAM genip/coconut fertilizer going right now made from leaf mold, genips, and shredded coconut. 

Next I plan to make a JADAM Vetiver and Guinea Grass fertilizer.

My next plan is to build a Continuous Flow Through Worm bin and use African Nightcrawlers as my primary composter. 

https://michigansoilworks.com/ (https://michigansoilworks.com/)

I will take the vermicompost and create an AACT compost tea with a microbulator that I will be constructing very soon.

http://microbeorganics.com/ (http://microbeorganics.com/)

Lastly, I am looking to build a Flame Cap Tough to make biochar.  I will apply my AACT to the biochar to super charge it.     

https://warmheartworldwide.org/flame-cap-trough/ (https://warmheartworldwide.org/flame-cap-trough/)

Part of my efforts are simply to grow my fruit trees and veggies to the best that I can without buying inputs.  The other part is a goal to branch out to organic land care and offer my services to people who are looking to do the same and to also sell vermicompost, worms, compost tea and biochar to the local market here.  We have to ship everything in here to this small island, so if I can make these products locally and offer them at competitive prices, I think it will become quite popular and sought out.

As I develop my systems and methodology, I would like to start a new post to document and share my successes and failures.

Until then, lets keep this discussion going and we can keep it about JADAM since I introduced a whole set of other practices that each deserve their own threads. 
Title: Re: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: zands on August 20, 2020, 10:40:39 AM
I have made liquid fertilizer with grasses and plant residues found in my yard according to the procedure in the book, Very Simple process. The fertilizer is ready for use after 12 days I have chosen 2 seedling guavas at exactly the same age and height to record my observations. The grass made fertilizer is slightly  pungent but is not overwhelming like i was expecting.

Aside from the grass nutrients you will be fertilizing with a fermented liquid. Is this part of the theory? To add ferments to the soil?
Title: Re: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: FMfruitforest on August 21, 2020, 06:06:25 AM
The book embraces the idea do as Nature and learn from Nature. The author writes that farmers  (worldwide) can be making there own additional fertilizer inputs through anaerobic fermentation. He stresses the most important aspect of fertilizer is nutritional value. He then then states that Sunlight, Air and Heat destroy vitamins and amino acids. Author continues that anaerobic fermentation is meaning the breaking down of materials by microbes  in an aerobic environment and that anaerobic fermentation is not new at all but is the system chosen by “virtually all creatures on Earth”

Title: Re: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: Francis_Eric on August 21, 2020, 06:12:54 AM
I'd love to hear more discussion on this.  I think it may be limited to those that have some acreage since it can get a bit stinky.

I am experimenting with this and so far have seen good results.

I am also interested in KNF method.  Jadam is easier to implement but KNF seems to be as good or better but need more inputs like sugar.

The other thing I am curious about is how this fits in with biochar, vermicomposting and activated aearated compost teas (AACT).  I think all of these methods can be combined to provide really nice soil enhancement without having to continue buying organic or chemical fertilizers.

Here's what I've done so far and what I plan to do:

I have a  JADAM genip/coconut fertilizer going right now made from leaf mold, genips, and shredded coconut. 

Next I plan to make a JADAM Vetiver and Guinea Grass fertilizer.

My next plan is to build a Continuous Flow Through Worm bin and use African Nightcrawlers as my primary composter. 


What' s KNF? links .

I know a reliable source  Homesteader (online) , that used to put Molasses in the soil ,
is that what you mean by sugar.

I am very sure  HE put it down in fall (in  a temperate area ) to feed the microbes for next spring

For worms
I meet a Guy through a friend that would get Discarded Bread , and feed it to his worms .

About that molasses Sugar I would not gte it on Amazon
a feed store looks like 50 pounds for $15 Amazon 70 $ ($70 for feed molasses)
I am guessing it would be Sugar beet molasses as it is more bitter, and used for feed , and snow melting like salt is.

https://midlandhardware.com/dried-molasses-50-lb/

I'd be interested in learning about this myself
Added a garbage bag on Ginkgo leaves a  year or 2  ago to a 55 gallon drum, and watered my plants with it
i have a (male) ginkgo tree as well, wanted to do experiments recently with my Gingko seedlings .
Title: Re: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: Francis_Eric on August 21, 2020, 06:16:11 AM
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Title: Re: Jadam Ultra low cost agriculture
Post by: Francis_Eric on August 21, 2020, 06:26:02 AM
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The other thing I am curious about is how this fits in with biochar, vermicomposting and activated aearated compost teas (AACT).  I think all of these methods can be combined to provide really nice soil enhancement without having to continue buying organic or chemical fertilizers.

Not anerobic , like above post mentioned
but AACT I see one is made with a pump
I found for free one of those bathroom mats  for blowing air into the bathtub maybe I will use it for that.