The Tropical Fruit Forum

Pease porridge hot
Pease porridge cold
Me watermelon in The fridge
Nine days olde

This seeded was a beauty
Was even a cutie
Was 26 pounds
Before making the rounds
But was never so firm
As the 16lb from before
Yea, this is the score

From Walmart
If you are smart
You pay your 6 dollar
No matter the size
If you are wise
You're able to choose the firm
So that later no squirming
Gonna test W today
If mushy no delay
In tossing this
On top of the mulch
In me mango gulch
To fine fertilize
You cannot deny

(Pease porridge was a staple food in old England. Made/cooked from dried whole peas. Not split peas. Cooking whole dried peas --- The result has lots more fiber due to the pea husks being left intact. Split peas removes them)

I have only eaten a few but......
The old trick with a lime and lemon is to roll it hard 10x against a kitchen surface. Then squeeze the juice out. Prolly youtube videos on this.

Here are the steps for a juice mango, My thinking at least.

At room temperature
Or warmed up by the sun
Roll juice mango 10 times hard on a kitchen surface. Maybe 20 times
Refrigerate and let it get nice and cold
Remove it.
Now do it your way to get the juice out

It is well known that by refrigerating vegs and apples, that it is much easier, you can extract more juice than if done with veg/fruits that are at room temperature

What makes bottom tier?
Low productivity.
Fungus and disease prone.
Too much fiber. Though grafted known varieties should not have fiber. I once had some seedling mangos that were very full of fiber. Tasted good though.

If you have a large space to plant trees then a few inferior or experimental mango trees is  OK. But most here have limited suburban spaces, and cannot afford to waste it on sub-par plantings of any kind.

For some fun here   -- You can list mango trees you planted. That when fruiting they were a disappointment. So you either cut them down or top worked them. I have seen here postings,  a few Indian mango trees that gave fruit that was deemed too much carrot taste. It got the chop. Is carroty a word? Yes, so fruits that were too carroty.

Miguel of Miami was raging at a  Haden tree that he got as mislabeled. So Haden should kick this off.

In Broward County Florida---
Imported from Jamaica. Displayed front and center right as you walk in. They Both were a bit soft (you might find firmer) but had full coloration and looked great
Julie $3.49 each
East Indian a mind blowing $5.49 each

Seen today Saturday morning. I never tasted Julie and would have bought if they were $1.50 or less

Having fun here---
The current Federal Reserve Board policy is called "Extend and Pretend" -- Our bubble economy is  based on extend and pretend. Real estate and the stock market. Look at all the Bros. getting in on the action. Learning from Dave Portnoy and reddit-- reddit wall street bets. Gamestock is what they did.

But with my most loaded in 5 years Pickering...I have decided to extend (not pretend) many thick branches outward and prop them up. Somewhat like a trellis. This is an anchor post that I will come back to Wednesday with photos and the interesting explanation how I  got to my Pickering extend/no pretend. Just by chance.

Later alligators

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Obverse the white hurricane awning. The Pickering branches were sitting on top of it. Until I pressure washed awning  the other day so had to collapse white awning down over the window. The way I would do before a hurricane to protect this window.

It was only after collapsing this awning that I saw and knew how extended Pickering had grown. You will see in below photos that the extended and loaded w fruits are now propped up with two wood sticks. It needs a third one which I will do.

Observe in photos below how low Pickering branches out and branches go horizontal. This is why it is a good condo mango and good for green houses. Mango trees that are called upright growers. The branches like to reach skyward. As if they are in "Hands up-Don't shoot" mode ---Forever.

I will probably remove this awning and use plywood to protect this window that you  see in my photos. So that the extend branches can get more sunlight. Instead of being under this awning--The way they sit now






You can see here the low branching out of Pickering at about 18" high. The extended branches come outward to 14 feet. Are growing towards an area that is now bare (why bare? This is another story) Since it is bare the Pickering branches have all the more reason (for me) to extend for more fruit production








Two above photos--See the extended branches now propped up






Above you can see the end tips of the major extend branch and minor extend branches

Extend/zero pretend. Saying again for the plebs in the cheap seats way in the back--- Extend/ with zero pretend! Get into this game. Don't be lame, don't be that lamer.

If you have one you want to sell or know a nursery that has one. Looking for an above average, leafed out specimen. My local nursery in Tamarac, Florida, 33321 has pathetic 3 gallon mango trees fresh out of Zill's that cannot be more than 14" high. Zill is rushing them out of their mango grafting factory these days/ I read here Zill's is sending truckloads of mango trees out West. California Arizona etc.

Any leads on what solid Pickering you have seen in Broward County, Palm Beach county, Dade County/Miami (I would even dig one out)  Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMANIarjT50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To_kVMMu-Ls


 ----   Casa de Papel ---  If you see it only see the version in Spanish with English subtitles. Best I have seen in a few years. Part one is the best but all four seasons are very good.

Out with Hollywood and its crappy PC products and comic book Marvel movie blockbusters geared to the 12 year old mind. Spain is the new acting, directing and screen writing super power.

I am basically done. I had six trees in need of serious cutbacks and I did it this week.  I have half a tree left,  as in I am going into the center of it with an electric polesaw to make it more of a teacup shape. Half the time the trimmings are thrown in with the garbage pick up.

But half the time I take the leaves and young green branches.... Throw them on my lawn and go over them my lawn mower to add to lawn humus. As October approaches I look for apically dominant branches that shoot upward. There will be just a few, but to cut them down to the same level as the more patient branches.

What month is good to fertilize with potassium? October?

Not growing but just buying. I saw some very nice seeded in Walmart the other day. All over all you see are seedless but Walmart still gets in seeded for the trad hold outs. When the hold outs die off we will all be eating xxxx

Your vote:
Seeded vs seedless
What do you look for in a supermarket watermelon? I look for a large yellow underbelly.

Potassium Nitrate is supposed to only work on tropical grown mangoes to induce blooming. Philippines is where its use originated. Since winters are getting warm in SE Floridian maybe it will work here now.

How to apply Potassium nitrate
Reminiscent of tropical summer sunshine, ripe mangoes are a favorite fruit of many people. Like other fruit trees, mango trees (Mangifera indica) must blossom in order to bear fruit. For years, these trees were hard to cultivate since they naturally flower erratically, often skipping every other year. In the 1970s, Dr. Ramon Barba, a horticulturist from the Philippines, figured out how to force mango trees to flower by applying potassium nitrate to the tree's trunk and foliage. This system of chemical forcing is still in use today, including among backyard mango growers.
https://homeguides.sfgate.com/apply-potassium-nitrate-mango-trees-55904.html

Potassium nitrate at Amazon   (don't get the granular)
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Potassium+Nitrate&i=industrial&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/10/philippines-overflows-with-millions-of-mangoes-as-el-nino-take-effect
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Philippines overflows with millions of mangoes as El Niño takes effect
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Agriculture department sets up stalls around Manila in bid to get rid of fruit before it rots

The Philippines government has launched cooking classes to inspire people with mango recipes. Photograph: Noel Celis/AFP/Getty Images
The Philippines is struggling under the weight of a sweet but troublesome burden: a glut of 2m mangoes.

The agriculture secretary, Emmanuel Piñol, said mango farmers had reported an “unusual increase” in the harvest, which they had attributed to El Niño, the climate phenomenon that has led to unusually hot, dry weather this year.

One the Philippine island of Luzon alone there is a surplus of about 2m kg of mangoes, according to Piñol, an oversupply that has led the price to drop from 58 pesos (88p) to as low as 25 pesos (38p) per kilogram.

Piñol stressed the urgency of dealing with the glut before the fruit went to waste and sent the price of mangoes crashing further, hurting farmers. “We need to do something about this in the next two weeks,” he added.

In a bid to make sure that the excess mangoes do not rot, the agriculture department has launched a marketing campaign, dubbed “Metro Mango”, to try to shift a million kilograms of the fruit in Metro Manila, with stalls selling mangoes to be put up all around the capital throughout June. The fresh mangoes will be sold at 25 pesos (38p) to 50 pesos (75p) a kilogram to entice buyers, who will get the low prices only if they buy in bulk.

The department has also launched cooking classes to teach people how to cook with mangoes and will be holding a mango festival in mid-June in a bid to drum up excitement and demand for the fruit.

Some farmers in Luzon, where the oversupply is concentrated, have taken to giving away their mangoes free, hanging bountiful bags of the fruit outside the gates of their farms.

Foreign interest in the cheap mangoes is helping ease the burden. A Japanese fruit importer has pledged to purchase 100,000kg of the mangoes, though this still leaves 1.9m kg to shift. Piñol said it were also hoping to increase daily mango imports to Hong Kong and Dubai.

Saying this today before the new 2020 decade coming, this is an obscured by clouds morning. We have a very unusual winter with all this intermittent rain, quick showers and drizzle. The SE Florida model is torrential rains  during summer months. Our current 30 days weather and rain defies the norm.

The main reason I keep weather track and keep noticing each day is for the mango panicales health and fruiting for 2020. And my grass lawn too. I need to have green all around me even though I am a ... Trump voter. Is Broward County very green as far as trees and shrubbery all around? Yes we are.

50,000 Apples Stolen From Indiana Orchard
1,763 views•Sep 25, 2019
Orchard owner says the apples were stolen to make apple sauce or apple cider. btw go to Aldis if you like apple cider. $3.49/gallon. They are giving this stuff away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=46&v=1xRcuAjBUgE