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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: is this frost damage?
« on: February 23, 2021, 03:35:25 PM »Could be wind but yes, probably cold
Should i cut the brunch bellow that point or just let it be?
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Could be wind but yes, probably cold
Hello, do u have bigger cherimoya trees, if u do ,how are they doing in your climate ?? Wish luck to u and your plants !!
Is anyone growing this, is it worth the trouble ? I'm considering of baying a plant and would like to hear any reviews regarding taste of fruit, easiness of growing , hardiness etc .. thanks for any feedback !!
It depends. Makes a very appreciated brandy. It gets sweeter with the cold. I saw it growing where it snows, wikipedia says it is hardy to zone 7. It does ferment very quickly and bruises easily. I like it but i don't really eat it often. The leaves are medicinal. It attracts butterflies and looks and feels good. Easy to grow.
Portuguese info https://flora-on.pt/#/1arbutus
Hello, I plan on moving out to a place where it’s zone 8, but I still want to bring my trees with me. How cold can cherimoya trees tolerate? I want to grow cherimoyas
Thanks
Always interesting to have a discussion on a favorite fruit, car, politician, etc. Seems like one needs to gather a bunch of scionwood varieties, graft them on a single tree, in a given environment, water accordingly, and sample the fruit. I was fortunate to participate in the collection of Bob Chambers' scionwood extravaganza and have sampled many of the varieties mentioned. Most are grafted on existing trees (they graft as easily as apples, very forgiving). In my opinion most are too sweet (like cherimoyas). I prefer one that has ripened on the tree, has fallen, and is warmed by the sun. It reminds me of custard. Cut into large pieces and dried in my dehydrator, they are an excellent dried fruit which I use when backpacking. One of my trees is over 40 years old (Pike/Vernon/Nettie) and is a true giant. Grafted on a yellow sapote (Casimiroa tetrameria) it is a managable size about the size of a peach tree. I would not plant one near the house/septic tank/walkway. At least they are quite drought resistant.
Hard to explain taste but size varies from small 2" diameter up too 3" diameter color yellow to yellow with some lime green when ripe. Taste is sweet but not as complex of a flavor as Vernon. Also taste depends on ripeness when over ripe can go into semi-rich caramel flavor.
Vernon is a very rich tasting fruit, nies can be excellent if leaf on tree till close to ripe, santa cruz, and more bland side suebelle which if true variety should have some fuzz on bottom side of leaf. Many nurseries sell suebelle but not true variety which was mixed up long ago so look for woolly underside on leaf for true suebelle. Lemon gold is supposed to be good one and cuccio is also good. It all depends on what you can find in area best of luck.
In 15-30 days i will take out 1 acre of olive trees (that produce nothing), add irrigation and prepare the soil for next spring. Already done soil analysis.
It is a nice slope with southern exposure and protection from the north.
I will add 80 citrus trees (all different varieties), several white sapote, cherimoya and pawpaw seedlings that i will graft in 2022 and longan, lychee and guava plants.
It will be the first "organised" planting of fruits trees other than grape vines and olive trees so i am really looking forward to it
That sounds like an awesome project. If we were under normal circumstances and I didn't think I would just be in your way. I would volunteer to come and help you. I like the sound of lychee guava and grapes. If you could find a protected area within your citrus to plant one mango tree that would be spectacular.
So I've been looking at all the white sapote posts, but it seems like there's no clear white sapote winner.
Has anyone tried enough varieties to say one they like best? I don't like the bitterness that some varieties have.
Yes and minimum chill to induce flowering is a pretty good guide and yeah 4c or 5c sounds about right.
As a general rule look at the order of harvest and the later they are the more cold tolerant the variety.
Order of Harvest of Lychees Chinese Names. The lower on the list the more cold tolerant. Sum yee hong is yook ho pow, tai so is Mauritius,souey tung is groff,kwai mai pink is the same as Bosworth and should have been at the top of the list.
Sum Yee Hong
Souey Tung
Bah Lup
Fay Zee Siu
Tai So
Haak Yip
Kwa Lok
Chong Yun Hong
Tim Naan
Sai Kok Zee
Heong Lai
No Mai Chee (standard)
Seong Sue Wai
Ah Neong Hai
Soot Wai Zee
Wai Chee
Have always heard the opposite and in my experience longans are far more sensitive than lychees. I am in 9B and longans are borderline trees. Mine stayed alive but barely grew while my lychees do really well.
Hmm.. I see conflicting evidence all over the web.
And in my personal experience,
I started about 200 longan seedlings and 100 or so lychee seedlings last summer, and scattered them all throughout different microclimates on the property (slightly different elevations, full sun and full shade, some more exposed to wind and frost than others).. none grew over a foot in height when winter came about. We got about 12 brief frosts this past winter (lowest temp 27 F) and not a single longan that I observed suffered any frost damage. However about half the seedling lychees had significant damage to their leaves (However I think much of this damage occured in the first cold event when it dropped from 85 F to 40 F in 6 hours. Not much further damage seemed to occur when actual frosts started to hit, because the plants were acclimated by then..)
So, I don't know yet. Maybe longans are more frost tolerant but more sensitive lower temps (which is a separate factor than frost)..? I'll likely find out in the years to come..
Also what are some Chinese longan varieties? Does Kohala have Chinese heritage?
here in Greece we have so so much wild asparagus! each day i collect around one kg since the beggining of March. It is the most common weed.
But it is not the variety in your photo. It has a way stronger taste, its thin and also the plant has spikes
What do you do with the spikes? Do they soften when cooked?
I can agree with grapes being better tasting. Especially the ones that cost $25 for one bunch But who doesn't love fruits that grow off the tree trunkBlack sapote
Wax jambu
Jabos
Dragon fruit (for their taste, not superfood status)
Miracle fruit
Many types of guavas
couldn't agree more with Dragon fruit and Jabos. Though both are really impressive. Jabos are good but grapes (some varieties) are better. And grapes give a lot of fruit and are mostly care free. Dragon in my opinion is really promising from its looks but dissapoints... Even the yellow one...
Black sapote
Wax jambu
Jabos
Dragon fruit (for their taste, not superfood status)
Miracle fruit
Many types of guavas
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