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Tropical Fruit Discussion / polyembryony
« on: October 22, 2013, 12:40:13 AM »
Found an interesting post on polyembryony
http://www.ubergardener.com/grow-true-to-type-citrus-from-seed/

I dont think this has been found true experimentally in all mangos:
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Nucellar embryos begin development as soon as pollination occurs while zygotic embryos take four weeks to develop; thus, nucellar embryos often crowd out the zygotic embryos.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango for sucking from ecuador
« on: October 20, 2013, 04:03:14 PM »
I suspect it is a lemons out of lemonades like situation, but Ive also read that its a convenient and non-messy method. Might just work for buying on the street and eating. I think its more consumer driven than producer, since most of the examples I've seen have been from small growers in local markets and villages. I don't think the vendors are going around pushing sucking just to unload their mangoes.

With regard to varieties, the few available pictures show small, round, green to yellow mangoes.

e.g.
http://sarahreichle.tumblr.com/post/50915967327/your-ecuadorian-fruit-education-lesson-5-mango

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / mango for sucking from ecuador
« on: October 20, 2013, 01:40:52 PM »
I have a friend in ecuador that loves the mango de chupar sold there. The sucking method has been discussed here once by joeP with regard to the tyler. Does anyone know more about the mango de chupar? Is it an actual variety or just a blanket term for small sweet fibrous mangos that are appropriately consumed this way? If its a variety does it have another name?

http://www.fairchildgarden.org/livingcollections/tropicalfruitprogram/blog/id/242/read/For-the-Love-of-Mangos-Ecuador/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What kind of fruit is this?
« on: October 19, 2013, 06:34:34 PM »
Botanical gardens have some similar trees you could compare to. Many have fruit right now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: USDA Hilo and lychee grafting
« on: October 17, 2013, 09:52:07 PM »
According to morton "kwai mi" is the same as mauritius. Is that not the case?

The reason i ask is that i had some kwai mai this weekend and i liked i much more than lychees id ever had. Didnt have that rose water taste.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare, unusual Variegated fruit trees
« on: October 17, 2013, 09:43:48 PM »
another variegated plant I've never seen popped up! Natal plum


Hadnt seen this before. Would love to have it!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mulberry just dropped leaves
« on: October 17, 2013, 01:38:12 PM »
Thank you both. I hope so. Will see next spring. As mark has pointed out in another thread, when the tree isn't working on growing its branches and leaves, its working on its roots. Crossing fingers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with South African seed wish list
« on: October 17, 2013, 10:51:34 AM »
Carissa Macrocarpa?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Manila Mango?
« on: October 17, 2013, 10:42:27 AM »
I've had carabao and manila within a couple days of each other and preferred the manila. Seemed more tangy and complex. But the difference was fairly subtle and was well within the range of variability of all the manilas I had last season.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mulberry just dropped leaves
« on: October 17, 2013, 12:37:51 AM »
It did cool down a little, and rain. Im hoping thats it but like i said my neighbors mulberry is still very green.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / mulberry just dropped leaves
« on: October 16, 2013, 09:46:07 PM »
My pakistan mulberry just dropped all its leaves. Planted it last spring and it flowered and fruited almost immediately. Fruits tasted a bit grassy but not worried about that. After a couple months the leaves turned yellow. Tried a few things and eventually citrus and avocado food. Leaves colored up nicely after that,  were good for a few weeks and then suddenly yellowed, dried and dropped a week ago. Should i be worried? My neighbors mulberry thats only a couple years older is still lush and green.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting in Heavy Clay Soil
« on: October 16, 2013, 08:39:03 PM »
Btw san diegans, the north county crfg mtg this friday is covering these topics:
: · Amending clay soils · Phytoremediation · Just how many grafts can you do on a tree? · Citrus nutritional requirements · Pest identification and use of Pheromone products for pest management · Fruit production and pollination requirements · Fruit tree care and feeding · Coastal fruit tree varieties

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What are you feasting on?
« on: October 15, 2013, 11:26:04 PM »
Guava. Strawberry guava. Feijoa.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Distances required for cross pollination?
« on: October 15, 2013, 08:56:07 PM »
Theres a lot of info on this in relation to avocados. If memory serves avos benefit from neighboring (20ft?) Polinators, not so much from the following neighbor and not at all from the third. But that probably depends on your bugs and wind. Couldnt find the article from a quick search.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida hass success
« on: October 15, 2013, 06:59:12 PM »
Grats!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting in Heavy Clay Soil
« on: October 15, 2013, 02:07:29 PM »
Some great reading on that site Mark.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting in Heavy Clay Soil
« on: October 15, 2013, 11:21:53 AM »
For much of my yard, I mixed and amended large sections rather than just the hole for the tree. I would think this is a better option (when you don't have too much established) for a home garden vs. commercial or very large lots.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which mango variety to buy?
« on: October 12, 2013, 09:30:01 PM »
Join your local crfg. Scion exchanges are coming up.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Inter species grafts
« on: October 11, 2013, 05:16:19 PM »
I've been fascinated by the possibility of interspecies grafts this last year, mainly as a means of converting established landscaping trees into fruit bearing trees. I know that there are some reported, but its hard to find information on what's been tried and failed. Stonefruits and citrus have lots of compatibilities. But what about other subtropicals and tropicals?

I have 3 experiments going right now, one of which looks promising. Should be able to report in a couple months.

I'd be interested in hearing your stories.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New flushes
« on: October 11, 2013, 11:21:44 AM »
Nice looking trees, cute pup too... is it on fertilizing duty for your trees?

I'm a fan of Shiba Inu, but mine fertilizes only the backyard lawn. :(

Super cute puppy! My shiba will only fertilize neighbor's bushes. Will hold it for hours not to dirty his own territory.  :P

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To the Portuguese and Spanish members, Would anyone be willing to send (or arrange to be sent) some Aguardente de Medronhos, the brandy made from Arbutus Unedo fruit?  I'd of course pay for the bottle(s), shipping and your trouble.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lamb Hass
« on: October 08, 2013, 02:01:36 PM »
2 months in fridge...incredible thanks Behl!!



good after 2 months in the fridge oughta fill some voids!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting in Heavy Clay Soil
« on: October 08, 2013, 11:17:24 AM »
This is from SE corner of Carlsbad, but likely similar to JefDMs. The rusty moisture planes get spaced wider and wider as you get deeper, leaving chunks about 1ft wide at 2.5ft deep. Only a very rare root down there and always growing through and fanned out in the moisture planes. Disconcerting.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting in Heavy Clay Soil
« on: October 08, 2013, 10:26:05 AM »
Here we have brown clay soil (very heavy) but the mango's do fine.

After a flooding for several weeks my mangotree's growed like never before so fast.

I would stake the tree's well because clay might get soft after loads of rain and then the tree might fall over.

Interesting. By 'fooding for several weeks' do you mean there was standing above-ground water for several weeks? I'm in a similar situation as JeffDM, and while I give my trees a thorough soaking once a week in summer, I wonder if something more aggressive might help root penetration. My clay is impenetrable past about 2ft down. I've employed various planting/prep methods from just turning, to turning and mixing with compost, to turning and forking with square holes. Etc. Actually reading a book on soil science to try to understand better. My trees are too young though to tell what'll work in the long run. I can tell what's responded in the short term. White sapote, almond, cherry of the rio grand, grape and papaya have done extremely well. Loquot, jaboticaba, mulberry, avocado (with some tip burn), dragonfruit, jujube, surinam cherry seem ok. Pomelo and apricot are suffering.

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