Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone

[K-Rimes]

Potted




Bagged and hidden
A month is enough?

Looking good! I would only recommend to put some air holes in the bags or loosely open them up so that they get some fresh air exchange. I've run into mold issues on the soil surface when humidity is too high

[FV Fruit Freak]

I keep going back and forth about putting them on a seedling heating mat to stimulate those roots a bit. I put them on one last night and the temp in the soil this morning was 73. What do you guys think? Anyone using a heat mat? Also, did anyone put rooting hormone on the roots? Wishing everyone the best of luck with their trees.

[K-Rimes]

I keep going back and forth about putting them on a seedling heating mat to stimulate those roots a bit. I put them on one last night and the temp in the soil this morning was 73. What do you guys think? Anyone using a heat mat? Also, did anyone put rooting hormone on the roots? Wishing everyone the best of luck with their trees.

I thought about this too. It's really warm outside now and especially in my greenhouse so I'll try it without first. They were growing snowy white roots just sitting in water at Ken's house so I feel like they're going to build out pretty quick.

[slopat]

+1 to Ken, K-Rimes, ScottR, and this forum.

Most smooth and incredible Group Buy of anything I've experienced!

I only had a peek at ScottRs yard but definitely looking forward to this COVID business being taken care of so as Kevin said, see how the trees progress. Also for CRFG and other tour visits startup again.  One more shot to go!

Pat

[K-Rimes]

+1 to Ken, K-Rimes, ScottR, and this forum.

Most smooth and incredible Group Buy of anything I've experienced!

I only had a peek at ScottRs yard but definitely looking forward to this COVID business being taken care of so as Kevin said, see how the trees progress. Also for CRFG and other tour visits startup again.  One more shot to go!

Pat

It was awesome having some TFF people over at my place yesterday. We all have cool stuff to talk about and are just excited about growing - really nice people every single time. I'm waiting for one more shot I'll get in Santa Maria and I'm stoked to get out there with everyone. Can't wait to host a CRFG meeting here one day.

[simon_grow]

I’m surprised there’s any Black Peak left. It’s the largest fruit and supposedly one of the best according to the nursery

http://www.fruit-trees-nursery.com/myrica_rubra.htm


Never mind, that last BlackPeak went fast, only An Hai left!
Simon

[simon_grow]

Potted




Bagged and hidden
A month is enough?

I would suggest planting in the smallest pot that will hold all the roots. A #1 pot fir the smaller plants and #2 pot for the larger ones. I recommend this due to the perched water table. It will be easier to control the soil moisture.

Simon

[beicadad]

trees are all gone!

Thanks to everyone who participated and offered advice - you guys have been so patient - truly the best group of people. Good luck growing them!

[shaneatwell]

Nice work Ken. Beautiful job and thank you!

[Itay Gazit]

Thank you Ken for all the efforts and time spent!

[roblack]

You ROCK Ken! Very cool of you to make this happen. You've made a lot of people happy, and have earned your place in the annals of fruit history. Yangmei may now spread in the US. I salute you. 

[fliptop]

I've been following this thread since the beginning and join in applauding beicadad for making it happen!

[Seanny]

I recommend this due to the perched water table. It will be easier to control the soil moisture.

Simon

I’ve grown seedlings. The biggest seedlings are from biggest pots.
That’s why I use #7 for these big trees.

My pots have vapor blocking at top and anti-perching near the bottom.
Those extra holes above the bottom holes help to dry out the bottom layer of potting soil.
The dry bottom potting soil is homogeneous with the top potting soil so it soak up the water above.
It’s not the same as putting rocks in the bottom of a pot.

Try it.

 

[nattyfroootz]

I like the holes in the lower parts of the pots, seems like some things that don't like sitting in excess water would enjoy that. 

Thanks again for all your work on making this happen! And to K-rimes for making it down to San Diego for the Norcal Group.  Most people are picking up their plants this saturday and everyone should have their plants by that point.  Most of the plants look good! I broke a graft and was wondering how they grafted it.  Does it look like an approach graft to anyone else, or a peeling the bark back graft?

BIQI definitely look like the healthiest of the bunch.

Thanks again!

Nate

[simon_grow]

I recommend this due to the perched water table. It will be easier to control the soil moisture.

Simon

I’ve grown seedlings. The biggest seedlings are from biggest pots.
That’s why I use #7 for these big trees.

My pots have vapor blocking at top and anti-perching near the bottom.
Those extra holes above the bottom holes help to dry out the bottom layer of potting soil.
The dry bottom potting soil is homogeneous with the top potting soil so it soak up the water above.
It’s not the same as putting rocks in the bottom of a pot.

Try it.

For seedlings, it’s a completely different story, you want the taproot to extend down and taller tree pots are preferred. I’ve done lots of experiments with mangos, cherimoyas and avocados.

It sounds like you know what you are doing and I wish everyone that their trees will make it, one team, one dream.

Growing Yangmei is new to most of us and from the previous posts, they do not like transplanting. Since you planted in a big pot, your plant will not require transplanting which may be a bonus.

It is good that we all try our own techniques so that we can figure out what actually works and what doesn’t.

If my trees survive, I will try to gradually up pot them into larger root pruning containers as described by Dr. Carl Whitcomb.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_lkDLSPWZd0&t=3000s

Simon

[spaugh]

i used 1 gal pots and a baggie.  plants are in the garage under grow lights.

[canito 17]

I highly recommend my friend Brad . Superb packing.

[ronke47]

I think the anti-perching holes on the side are genius.  But when you say "vapor block" on the top, are you referring to those tiles I can see in your photo?  Does it matter if they are glazed or unglazed (assuming they are actually tiles)?

Like many in this thread, I am going nuts trying to figure out what to do with these yang mei trees. I only have two and don't want to kill them.  Out of desperation, as soon as I got them yesterday, I soaked them for a couple of hours in filtered water, then  potted them up with cactus mix lightened with perlite.  With further research I suspect I may be moving them to something more, um, sterile.  I know some of the SoCal crew are going with horticultural sand, horticultural charcoal and rice hulls or vermiculite;  but I don't know if that is just to get the little guys over their jet lag or what.

[SouthBayHapaJoe]

So excited to get a chance to grow these. I really enjoyed meeting all of you and talking nerdy plant stuff. I am a big believer in Gary matsuoko from Laguna hills nursery and going to try and use his potting mix to get these yangmei going. I am hoping to give the frankia already living in the roots the best chance and go with a sterile growing medium and feeds
Nutrients from top down. Really interested to hear of everyone’s successes!

[K-Rimes]

I find soil less mediums are useful for certain things, but it can be really hard to control the nutrition precisely - especially what the trees want to build roots. I'm using Fox Farm Ocean forest mixed about 3:1 with ProMix BH. It's my go to for all my sensitive plants like jaboticaba or eugenias and has been really good for rooting stuff thus far, so, I'mma stick with it.

[hawkfish007]

Just finished planting my 2 Dongkui and 2 An Hai in 5 gal rootmaker pots. I used Pro-Mix mixed with pumice and bio-char. I am keeping them in loft with plenty of indirect lighting. Also added a humidifier for humidity, I have to add water every 2 days or so until I buy a bigger unit. Hoping for the best and thanks to Ken again for making this happen.

[Seanny]

Hello K-Rimes,

The bag traps water vapor.
It’s not air tight.

I use friend’s Fox Farm Ocean Forest when I up pot trees for him.
It seems to be an excellent potting mix.
I add more pumice only.

I’m using MG because it’s easy to buy.


Hello ronke47,

Any solid materials would do.
I’m using 4”x4” ceramic tiles because they $0.72/sf
They are 8 pennies a piece at HD.
I’m using 2x4, 4x4, 3x6, and others.
The smaller ones are more $.

Adding mulch will trap vapor too but it’s hard to keep mulch away from trunk, for trees in small pots.
Potting soil below tile will be damp days after watering.
Rootmaker sell RootCaps but I haven’t bought any.
I’m trying to emulate in-ground with dry bottom wet top.


Hello simon_grow,

I’ve used Air-pot and RootBuilder.
I’ve no success with them.
Either I don’t know how to use them or air too dry here for them.
Good luck with your trial.

[spaugh]

Kang let us know if you need money for the government fees

[roblack]

Kang let us know if you need money for the government fees

yes! I am happy to pitch in as well.

[beicadad]

Kang let us know if you need money for the government fees

Thanks Brad. No I settled with the seller. I’m covered.