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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #225 on: May 06, 2013, 08:52:13 PM »
how old are those reds adam?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #226 on: May 06, 2013, 09:22:56 PM »
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #227 on: May 06, 2013, 09:38:07 PM »
Very nice looking trees! Jabos sure do take a long time to grow.  How big do you think a Red would get if you let it go?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #228 on: May 06, 2013, 10:02:35 PM »
thanks Ken!

they get about about 9 ft max

they just keep getting thicker, and wider, not really getting much taller.

my trees are only about 4.5-6.5 ft tall...and it seems like they've been the same size for years.

they might be the ultimate fruit tree for container culture.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #229 on: May 07, 2013, 05:24:02 AM »
recently grafted jaboticaba from last year...growing nicely.  I think I've finally identified this one.  It's one of the many forms of M. cauliflora...not paulista...maybe ponhema? (PS..JFW69, I think this is the same variety that is in Madeira)



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The tree does look similar, I'll share some pics :) Hang on tight, Amigo...you'll twist and tango soon ;)
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« Reply #230 on: May 12, 2013, 12:52:11 AM »
On my first flowering I counted 52 fruits.  Not huge, but I'm pretty happy about it.  I've picked a couple so far with the rest in the next week or two.  Looks like I should be getting many more flowers soon.  I don't remember reading comments about flowering cycles, though I imagine it might be different in NorCal, but I'm wondering how many waves of flowers I might expect in one year.







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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #231 on: May 12, 2013, 01:29:33 AM »
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #232 on: May 12, 2013, 10:05:25 AM »
On my first flowering I counted 52 fruits.  Not huge, but I'm pretty happy about it.  I've picked a couple so far with the rest in the next week or two.  Looks like I should be getting many more flowers soon.  I don't remember reading comments about flowering cycles, though I imagine it might be different in NorCal, but I'm wondering how many waves of flowers I might expect in one year.


Harvey, those are real nice and glad you got the tree going up there. I had one from Ong that fruited real quick and one from Exotica that is real thick and tall and is still not flowering.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #233 on: May 12, 2013, 10:47:10 AM »

Hi All,

http://www.rarefruit.org/AdamProgram.pdf


cheers

thanks for sharing this link...I didn't even know it existed.

I have more recent version of this speech with updated info, and pictures.

Although I don't know how to upload the PDF.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #234 on: May 12, 2013, 11:32:57 AM »
Adam that is a very nice presentation ! I would like to see the updated one!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #235 on: May 12, 2013, 12:36:48 PM »
Harvey, those are real nice and glad you got the tree going up there. I had one from Ong that fruited real quick and one from Exotica that is real thick and tall and is still not flowering.

Thanks, Mark.  Steve from Exotica was here about a year ago delivering some plants and I gave him some PhotoGreen-S to give a try since I told him about how well it worked for me.  If you happen to see him, please ask him if it did anything for him.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #236 on: May 12, 2013, 01:02:22 PM »
That looks delicious Harvey!  I wish had started off years ago with with a larger tree instead of a smaller one. :(  Still no flowers in sight for me.

The family and I were at the arboretum yesterday plenty of flowers and no ripe fruit yet.





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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #237 on: May 12, 2013, 01:05:37 PM »
Adam that is a very nice presentation ! I would like to see the updated one!

Ed

Ed Thanks!

Here is the updated version...on google docs.

Let me know if you can see it!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #238 on: May 12, 2013, 02:53:14 PM »
10th try is a charm...I think I finally got it uploaded.  :)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #239 on: May 12, 2013, 07:09:32 PM »
Nice presentation Adam. It's also great to have all your photos in one spot easy to access.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #240 on: May 12, 2013, 07:59:22 PM »
Someone should transfer the info and pictures to the fruit wiki
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #241 on: May 13, 2013, 12:42:40 AM »
Harvey,
sorry I didn't answer your question sooner, but the species you most likely have (M. jaboticaba, Sabara), will fruit over 4 times a year...but only 2 or 3 of the crops seem to be substantial.

Irrigate your tree liberally (but be sure to drain eventually) , and fertilize it periodically and modestly.

it will fruit much more than a neglected tree....

also consider pruning your tree...but only if you're not growing this tree in a marginal zone...a tree left unpruned is more resilient to freezes! 
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #242 on: May 13, 2013, 12:49:12 AM »
Thanks, Adam.  I am keeping most but avoiding it being saturated.  My soil is fairly heavy even though I did amend it with compost when I planted it four years ago.  I'll keep fertilizing with a mild solution to avoid any burning.  What I've done for the past couple of years seems to be working out pretty well.

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« Reply #243 on: May 13, 2013, 01:13:31 AM »
I have one jaboticaba tree that I bought about 10 years ago in Key West. I think it's a seedling and it has never fruited. I just put it in a large pot and never tended much to it. Now, I'm looking for some kind of potted kiddy pool with no drainage, then I plan to fill it with water, then put my potted jabo in it, and I plan to keep the lower one fourth of potted jabo always filled with water. All of this to see if I can get it to fruit. If this jabo is a seedling, I wonder how long it will take to fruit, if at all.

After researching the ten pages of this thread, and noticing the success some of you jabo masters have had, I've decided on a plan of action.

Because of the dissappointment had with my suspected jabo seedling, I need instant gratification. I've decided to purchase a fruiting potted jabo tree. I saw it once at a nearby nursery. It was very expensive and who knows, maybe it's more expensive now, although I hope not.

After that, I plan to purchase a grafted joboticaba of a different variety and plant it in the ground. This method is much cheaper and, two to five years for it to fruit is not bad at all. Then, when the grafted jabo does fruit, God willing, I'll then plant in the ground, the jaboticaba that was fruiting when purchased.

This plan seems to me to be a sure-proof way to finally get some jaboticabas growing in my yard. By the way, the two varieties that have so far piqued my attention are Sabara, and the blue colored one that ASaffron has mentioned that they grow almost in an everbearing fashion, from April to January.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #244 on: May 13, 2013, 01:24:26 AM »
LEOOEL, I understand where your coming from, waiting for Jabos to fruit is sometimes a long task.  I took adams advice and got my hands on 3 Red (hybirds) that he says have fruited 3 to 4 years from seed.  Might be something to consider.... I got mine from Pine Island but I think i got the last one when I went.  I also bit the bullet and bought a couple larger trees but I paid some coin for them.  I wanted at least a couple trees in the yard that were close to fruiting. 

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #245 on: May 13, 2013, 01:25:34 AM »
Remember...they have to get some drainage eventually!

I don't like to keep them sitting in water for longer than 10 days!!

Although they can handle much longer I'm sure...it's not optimal to have your trees permanently saturated.

I have one jaboticaba tree that I bought about 10 years ago in Key West. I think it's a seedling and it has never fruited. I just put it in a large pot and never tended much to it. Now, I'm looking for some kind of potted kiddy pool with no drainage, then I plan to fill it with water, then put my potted jabo in it, and I plan to keep the lower one fourth of potted jabo always filled with water. All of this to see if I can get it to fruit. If this jabo is a seedling, I wonder how long it will take to fruit, if at all.

After researching the ten pages of this thread, and noticing the success some of you jabo masters have had, I've decided on a plan of action.

Because of the dissappointment had with my suspected jabo seedling, I need instant gratification. I've decided to purchase a fruiting potted jabo tree. I saw it once at a nearby nursery. It was very expensive and who knows, maybe it's more expensive now, although I hope not.

After that, I plan to purchase a grafted joboticaba of a different variety and plant it in the ground. This method is much cheaper and, two to five years for it to fruit is not bad at all. When it does fruit, God willing, I'll then plant in the ground the jaboticaba that was fruiting when purchased.

This plan seems to me to be a sure-proof way to finally get some jaboticabas growing in my yard. By the way, the two varieties that have so far piqued my attention are Sabara, and the blue colored one that ASaffron has mentioned that they grow almost in an everbearing fashion, from April to January.
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« Reply #246 on: May 13, 2013, 01:29:58 AM »
I planted one of my newer trees in a spot where it received constant water via run off and the soil never drained.  Needless to say the leaves turned a light color brown and all fell off.  I ended up transplanting it and its doing fine now.  But like adam says it can handle flooding but not forever. 

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #247 on: May 13, 2013, 01:42:30 AM »
ASaffron and KGKnight, thanks for the valuable information. I'll follow your advice and I won't keep it saturated with water much longer than ten days.

Also, Red Hybrid jabos that fruit in three to four years, now that is something that's definitely worth looking into.

Thanks to you guys I have now what I consider to be a wonderful plan of action.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #248 on: May 13, 2013, 12:09:19 PM »
Amazing presentation Adam, very beautiful pic's with lot's of information congrat's! ;) 8)

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