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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: achetadomestica on August 15, 2020, 05:16:29 PM
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(https://i.postimg.cc/7bRS0WSV/sugarlata.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bRS0WSV)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bj73nHrX/sugarlata-fruit.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj73nHrX)
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Absolutely gorgeous Mike!
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You, my friend, are certainly doing something right.
Very nice. Hope to see this and others in your collection sometime soon.
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Beautiful tree. How old is it? What fertilizer do you use?
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Beautiful! The taste has to be magnificent :o
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Beautiful tree. How old is it? What fertilizer do you use?
Almost 3 years old
I mostly give annonas organics including manures, compost, coffee grounds, and I add fresh
mulch 2-3 times a year. Recently I gave the trees a dose of 8-4-8 Diamond R fertilizer with
micros
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Your tree looks LUSH!
Kevin Jones
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It likes like pure Sugar-Apple.
What makes you believe that it is one-half Annona reticulata?
If not, why the name "sugarlata"?
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It likes like pure Sugar-Apple.
What makes you believe that it is one-half Annona reticulata?
If not, why the name "sugarlata"?
The Fruit came from Painter On Pine Island. It is a seedling grown from this
fruit
(https://i.postimg.cc/SnPvdgrq/giant-sugar-apple.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SnPvdgrq)
I called the fruit Giant Sugar apple before I talked to John.
He came by and commented that the flowers were curled like his tree.
The leaves look nothing like the sugar apple leaves on my other trees?
I have two trees but the other one I left in a pot till this year, it's only 3'. I will be able
to compare the seedlings in the future.
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I agree w Har it does look like a regular sugar apple. Here is a hybrid saramoyo.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hj3dTgcz/4-FF780-CC-CAFD-4-E77-9054-4-EBA442-DDC1-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hj3dTgcz)
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I agree w Har it does look like a regular sugar apple. Here is a hybrid saramoyo.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hj3dTgcz/4-FF780-CC-CAFD-4-E77-9054-4-EBA442-DDC1-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hj3dTgcz)
I checked it again and it does look more like a sugar apple then a custard apple. The Sugar apple's leaves are
a little more narrow. It is a seedling though and I can't wait to try the fruit. I also have one Giant Yucatan
Pink saramoyo seedling growing from your seeds JF. Maybe next year it will fruit?
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Sugar-Apples vary a lot.
Custard-Apples vary a lot.
And in-between are Yucatan Saramuyos.
There is room for some discussion and arguements.
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Sugar-Apples vary a lot.
Custard-Apples vary a lot.
And in-between are Yucatan Saramuyos.
There is room for some discussion and arguements.
Do you have any fruits listed under here? I really like annonas, but my age kinda prohibits that. I have sugar apple, Rollinia, cherimoya, and pawpaw. The hybrids I will need to be grafted, anything else from seed. This is copy and pasted from my google document, so the images that are the fruit, flower, and foliage aren’t there.
Here is a guide to Annona fruits. Annonas are a family of fruiting plants that produce edible fruit that is often consumed. The trees are all found in the tropics or subtropics, with the exception of the genus of Asimina. This chart will be showing the FFF(Fruit, foliage, and flowers.)
These are the natural Annonas that grow true to seed and haven’t been hybridized.
Cherimoya | Annona cherimola
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Sugar apple | Annona squamosa
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Custard apple | Annona reticulata
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Rollinia | Annona Mucosa
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Beach sugar apple | Annona salzmannii
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Ilama | Annona macrophyllata
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Pond apple | Annona glabra
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Soursop | Annona Muricata
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Mountain soursop | Annona montana
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Marolo | Annona crassiflora
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Wild custard apple | Annona senegalensis
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Cawesh | Annona scleroderma
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Soncoya | Annona purpurea
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Beach custard apple | Annona parviflora
Fruit:
Foliage:Flowers:
These are Annona hybrids. These have been made by cross pollinating the original Annonas to make other fruits.
Atemoya | Annona cherimola x squamosa
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Temoylata | Annona cherimola x squamosa x reticulata
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Temoylama | Annona cherimola x squamosa x macrophyllata
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Cherilata | Annona cherimola x reticulata
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Cherilama | Annona cherimola x macrophyllata
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Pineapple annona | Annona muricata x glabra
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Birilata | Annona mucosa x reticulata
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
These are the only hybrids that have been created, are recognized by people and have been cultivated.
There are also some annonas in the annonaceae but not in the genus annona. These include:
Kepel | Stecholarpus burahol
Fruit:Foliage:Flower:
Pawpaw | Asimina triloba
Fruit:Foliage:Flower:
Fingersop | Meiogyne cylindrocarpa
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Junglesop | Anonidium mannii
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Pindaiba | Duguetia lanceolata
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Monkey Banana | Porcelia macrocarpa
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
Monkey Pepper | Xylopia aromatica
Fruit:Foliage:Flowers:
And that’s about all the Annonas I know. I may have forgotten some but hope I educated you a bit. Thx for reading!
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I have never seen visually verifiable "muricata X glabra" or "mucosa X reticulata."
Pictures please.
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I have never seen visually verifiable "muricata X glabra" or "mucosa X reticulata."
Pictures please.
ummm well both i dont have pictures of, but both are believed to be natural hybrids, so it cant be guarantied ...
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I have never seen visually verifiable "muricata X glabra" or "mucosa X reticulata."
Pictures please.
here! im an amatuer... i cant really say anything for sure, but im sure most annonas in the genus can be hybridized?
(https://i.postimg.cc/p5CN9N7v/20160712-104903annona-golden-TA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5CN9N7v)
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3 sugarlata seedlings in the hand do not beat one nice bush...
(https://i.postimg.cc/dDtxDtxv/Sugarlatas-11-2020.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dDtxDtxv)
...and re "pineapple annona," one fruit fell off my tree and got to it too late. It smelled really nice, and the ants were loving it. That was about two years ago. A few flowers, but no fruits since. Tree has been neglected, but is quite hardy. Will sample a fruit before giving up on it.
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One cannot logically prove a negative, so one cannot prove that any particular species is "impossible to hybridize" with any other particular species; however, many species appear to not be hybridizable, as they consistently reject any attempt to breed them.
The picture from a plant seller looks like Annona glabra.
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Sugar-Apples vary a lot.
Custard-Apples vary a lot.
And in-between are Yucatan Saramuyos.
There is room for some discussion and arguements.
sorry but what's a Yucatan Saramuyo?
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Reticulata-squamosa intergeneric hybrids.
Like Prunus mume is an intergeneric hybrid of apricot and plum.
Interspecific hybrids are things like atemoya with known parentage.
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Reticulata-squamosa intergeneric hybrids.
Like Prunus mume is an intergeneric hybrid of apricot and plum.
Interspecific hybrids are things like atemoya with known parentage.
Reticulata and squamosa are both in genus Annona, so interspecific not intergeneric, no? Prunus mume is a species. Apricot x plum = pluot, which are interspecific as well. Apple x quince, apple x pear, and shipova are intergeneric, between genera.
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JF posted a picture above in this thread, of a Saramuyo, most of which are from the Yucatan Peninsula. Some regular Sugar-apples get called that there also. Some with larger fruits are called "injerto" in Yucatan. "Injerto" literally means "grafted", but the market vendors mean "hybrid." Rather confusing.
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JF posted a picture above in this thread, of a Saramuyo, most of which are from the Yucatan Peninsula. Some regular Sugar-apples get called that there also. Some with larger fruits are called "injerto" in Yucatan. "Injerto" literally means "grafted", but the market vendors mean "hybrid." Rather confusing.
so is sugarlata confirmed to be custard apple-sugar apple hybrid?
also i think there is a general rule for annona hybrids. what are all of them to your knowledge?
temoy=atemoya
cheri=cherimoya
sugar=sugar apple
lata=custard apple
moya=cherimoya
ate=sugar apple
biri=rollinia
lama=ilama
examples:
atemoya
temoylata
cheirlata
temoylama
sugarlata
etc
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This is my less common annonas hybrid
(https://i.postimg.cc/0KQ4DbqK/rrrr173308.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0KQ4DbqK)
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Joaave,
Attractive fruit! Is it a cross of two different Annona cherimola varieties? Or Cherimoya with some other species?
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HI guanabanus seems like a rare atemoya...the fruits is similiar to avocado when the fruits its immature
(https://i.postimg.cc/zL32FKCF/annonara.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zL32FKCF)