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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: lycheeluva on April 28, 2012, 06:18:34 PM
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Please vote
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It does take a cultured palate to get into durians as they are atypical fruits as are avocadoes.If people knew the particular type it might change the result.Only a hardened anti-fruit crusader would turn up their nose at montong,luang.gumpun,gaan yeow,red prawn or D197.
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Only had durian once. I found one at a local Asian market, imported from Thailand. I didn't actually find the texture unappealing, and the sweetness was nice, but it left me feeling like I'd eaten an entire head of raw garlic, or maybe a bunch of rotting onion. The wife was ready to make me sleep in the garage, as well!
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I have tried Durian times over the years and am a big advocate of this incredible fruit. The first time I tried it was when the Fruit & Spice Park had a container flown in from Thailand...it was awesome!. For many years afterwards, I consumed it as a frozen fruit from the Asian markets in South Florida and found that it was almost always good. The BEST Durian I have tasted was from Ian Crown's farm in Puerto Rico...it was incredible. Thanks Jay for climbing that tree! I have no doubt that it's among the best fruit in the world. If you don't enjoy Durian, there's plenty of "Red Delicious" apples in the supermarket !
VIVA DURIAN
(http://s17.postimage.org/8ey0d36rv/PR_AUG2011_136.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8ey0d36rv/)
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I only tasted one and it was ok. Of course, I had to fight off Warren for even a bite ;)
I hope to taste more this summer.
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The opinion of westerners on durian is very similar to easterners who come to America taste a "red delicious" apple and say it tastes about as flavoruful as a mealy potato, and then they don't understand why apple is the American's favorite fruit? If you lived many years in Thailand and still didn't like durian then i would take your opinion more seriously. If you've only tasted frozen durian or durians shipped all the way from Thailand then don't think you've really tasted durian. FYI shipped durian is treated with an anti ripening agent and is picked almost totally green = flavorless and not of good texture.
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Fruitlovers you sure have some insight and I am sure your words of wisdom will be warmly embraced by some of the former doubters.
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Fruitlovers you sure have some insight and I am sure your words of wisdom will be warmly embraced by some of the former doubters.
Thanks. I'm a bit of a fruit proselytizer. I don't care to convert you to another religion. Only to get you to realize what fabulous fruits are out there that you are putting down based only on mere fruit stereotypes.
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The opinion of westerners on durian is very similar to easterners who come to America taste a "red delicious" apple and say it tastes about as flavoruful as a mealy potato, and then they don't understand why apple is the American's favorite fruit? If you lived many years in Thailand and still didn't like durian then i would take your opinion more seriously. If you've only tasted frozen durian or durians shipped all the way from Thailand then don't think you've really tasted durian. FYI shipped durian is treated with an anti ripening agent and is picked almost totally green = flavorless and not of good texture.
I've had fresh durian in Singapore, Malaysia, PR(had a few different varieties there), and FL(the FL one was not shipped frozen from Thailand but was brought back fresh with a fruit permit). I have also had frozen Thai durian on a few occasions in FL and GA and I still think its not that good. Taste it totally subjective so I don't think anyone can be wrong for not liking or liking a certain fruit more than others.
I would much rather eat a good Fuji or Gala apple than a durian any day. I would probably rather eat a barbados cherry, purple mombin, or Indian jujube over most other tropical fruits and while others may not agree with me I am not going to tell that they're wrong for thinking otherwise.
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The opinion of westerners on durian is very similar to easterners who come to America taste a "red delicious" apple and say it tastes about as flavoruful as a mealy potato, and then they don't understand why apple is the American's favorite fruit? If you lived many years in Thailand and still didn't like durian then i would take your opinion more seriously. If you've only tasted frozen durian or durians shipped all the way from Thailand then don't think you've really tasted durian. FYI shipped durian is treated with an anti ripening agent and is picked almost totally green = flavorless and not of good texture.
I've had fresh durian in Singapore, Malaysia, PR(had a few different varieties there), and FL(the FL one was not shipped frozen from Thailand but was brought back fresh with a fruit permit). I have also had frozen Thai durian on a few occasions in FL and GA and I still think its not that good. Taste it totally subjective so I don't think anyone can be wrong for not liking or liking a certain fruit more than others.
I would much rather eat a good Fuji or Gala apple than a durian any day. I would probably rather eat a barbados cherry, purple mombin, or Indian jujube over most other tropical fruits and while others may not agree with me I am not going to tell that they're wrong for thinking otherwise.
Sheehan, I never said anyone was wrong for not liking durian. That ofcourse would be a dumb thing to say. What i am saying is that most westerners have never been exposed to good quality durian fruits. There are Thai people that don't like durians, so ofcourse that is possible, fruit likes/dislikes are very individual. But how can a person say they don't like a certain fruit only based on stories of how bad they smell? Also please don't judge a fruit on frozen fruits you've had, or fruits shipped from thousands of miles away. It's like the person in the east that doesn't like peaches, but all they've ever had is canned peaches. They will also probably never get to taste a perfectly tree ripened peach and enjoy it's luscious taste. All i'm saying is reserve judgement. When you're with a durian lover and he tells you this is a top notch perfectly tree ripened durian fruit, and then you taste it and still don't like it, then OK you've had the real article and still don't like it.
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I was not suggesting that people are wrong for not liking durian but rather it should not be dismissed with disdain.Tastes vary alot and even as you grow older your opinions and 'likes' can change.
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I was not suggesting that people are wrong for not liking durian but rather it should not be dismissed with disdain.Tastes vary alot and even as you grow older your opinions and 'likes' can change.
Durian is the most unfairly maligned fruit in all of history. This thanks to a lot of dumb western writers that preset a lot of negative fruit stereotypes into people's heads even before they put the fruit into their mouths. I wouldn't call myself a durian fanatic, but still i see how unfair of a treatment it gets in the west. Do people here really believe that most of Asians adore a fruit that some here are posting claim smells worse than shit? Give me a break!
My main grudge against durian is not smell, taste, or even aftertaste, but rather user unfriendliness....something hardly ever mentioned, but the reality is that durian fruit is plain needle sharp on exterior and downright dangerous to handle and very difficult to open. Most vendors in Thailand were thick gloves to open them for customers.
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I was not suggesting that people are wrong for not liking durian but rather it should not be dismissed with disdain.Tastes vary alot and even as you grow older your opinions and 'likes' can change.
Mike you being in Cairns are much closer to the equator than Miami, Florida. I know that Darwin is even more tropical and has had lots of immigration from SouthEast Asia. Is Cairns the same. Do you have Asian owned orchards an farms where you are
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murahilin, I never said anyone was wrong for not liking durian. That ofcourse would be a dumb thing to say. What i am saying is that most westerners have never been exposed to good quality durian fruits. There are Thai people that don't like durians, so ofcourse that is possible, fruit likes/dislikes are very individual. But how can a person say they don't like a certain fruit only based on stories of how bad they smell? Also please don't judge a fruit on frozen fruits you've had, or fruits shipped from thousands of miles away. It's like the person in the east that doesn't like peaches, but all they've ever had is canned peaches. They will also probably never get to taste a perfectly tree ripened peach and enjoy it's luscious taste. All i'm saying is reserve judgement. When you're with a durian lover and he tells you this is a top notch perfectly tree ripened durian fruit, and then you taste it and still don't like it, then OK you've had the real article and still don't like it.
Yup I have been with durian lovers who loved the durian(s) that we had on different occasions and I was still not impressed. So I do think I have had the real article and I don't like it.
That being said. I think the tree and fruit are very interesting and I would grow every Durio species if I could.
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There is a large asian community but they are not the growers of durians and other tropical fruits most of the time.Darwin is a similar latitude to Bangkok and has a seasonal monsoon climate and the town gets about 1500mm/yr.Where I am sitting right now gets about 2600mm/yr and ther is rainforest behind my place.There is no doubt the asian and multicultural flavour has influenced foods and fruits grown.
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Yup I have been with durian lovers who loved the durian(s) that we had on different occasions and I was still not impressed. So I do think I have had the real article and I don't like it.
That being said. I think the tree and fruit are very interesting and I would grow every Durio species if I could.
And you've really had all the durian species, like Durio oxyleanus, graveolens, kutajensis, and don't like any of them? Or just zibethinus?
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There is a large asian community but they are not the growers of durians and other tropical fruits most of the time.Darwin is a similar latitude to Bangkok and has a seasonal monsoon climate and the town gets about 1500mm/yr.Where I am sitting right now gets about 2600mm/yr and ther is rainforest behind my place.There is no doubt the asian and multicultural flavour has influenced foods and fruits grown.
Thanks much Mike. I like reading your information from Australia. So you get a hundred inches rain a year! Do you use chipped trees and bushes as mulch to build up your organic matter? A common practice in FL is try to get a tree trimming crew to drop off the chips by your house
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There is a large asian community but they are not the growers of durians and other tropical fruits most of the time.Darwin is a similar latitude to Bangkok and has a seasonal monsoon climate and the town gets about 1500mm/yr.Where I am sitting right now gets about 2600mm/yr and ther is rainforest behind my place.There is no doubt the asian and multicultural flavour has influenced foods and fruits grown.
There is a huge Asian population in USA, but none of that is helping us get good quality fresh durians here. It's a matter of distance and ag rules, not just ethnicity.
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And you've really had all the durian species, like Durio oxyleanus, graveolens, kutajensis, and don't like any of them? Or just zibethinus?
I think the original species this poll was based on was Zibethinus and it is the only Durio species I've tried. I am more than willing to try the other species and I will definitely keep an open mind to them but that is a topic for another poll. ;D
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I think the original species this poll was based on was Zibethinus and it is the only Durio species I've tried. I am more than willing to try the other species and I will definitely keep an open mind to them but that is a topic for another poll. ;D
Yes, it's the original thread because it's the one and only species most here have tasted. But those other species are also very good. If the smell gets to you oxyleanus might be the one for you. Almost zero smell.
Maybe we should have a poll about which durian cultivar people here like most, and then you would get an idea of what i'm talking about as far as lack of experience with durian cultivars and durian species?
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I think durio graveolans x zinethinus and D.macrantha are the only ones besides zibethinus that warrant more than a sideways glance.There are around 30 zibethinus varieties around here and I have 5 adolescent trees of different types.
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I think durio graveolans x zinethinus and D.macrantha are the only ones besides zibethinus that warrant more than a sideways glance.There are around 30 zibethinus varieties around here and I have 5 adolescent trees of different types.
Ever had kutajensis or oxyleanus? Both very nice tasting!
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fruitlovers I have only had samples of them and D.testud...? and I prefer to sink my teeth into slabs of flesh rather than rake my teeth over seeds for scant flesh.Each has their own character but still are not on par with zibethinus.
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I've only really had monthong and prawn brain (?) and thought they were interesting on tasting, but didnt think them excellent. An hour after though i had a severe craving for more and the flavors have continued to grow on me. Cant say the same for my wife though - she makes me eat them in the back yard. I quite like mixing the frozen monthong with coconut into an ice cream.
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Durian is top on my list ''Exotic & weird Fruit's I want to taste''
I would prefer to eat a freshly dropped Durian, In it's native land! NO frozen or under ripe Durians for me!!!!! ;)
Here's a place I want to visit!
A day at Durian-lover's paradise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxXI0Xnz040#)
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I've had both fresh and frozen/imported durians in the past, and generally I loved them all except for the ones which were extremely dry inside for some reason. My only complaint is that, like jackfruit, they are very addictive and it has sometimes been difficult knowing when to stop eating.
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fruitlovers I have only had samples of them and D.testud...? and I prefer to sink my teeth into slabs of flesh rather than rake my teeth over seeds for scant flesh.Each has their own character but still are not on par with zibethinus.
Testudinariium not considered edible by most, more of an oddity. I found oxyleanus and kutajensis to have plenty of good pulp inside to eat. Still yet to try graveolens.