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What are some flood tolerant trees?
« on: March 14, 2015, 02:53:54 PM »
I have an area left for fruit trees but it's on a slight slope about 3 feet from a canal. During the wet season the water rises up about 1-3 feet for a few days or more if the rain is really heavy.

What trees can survive being underwater for a few days?

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2015, 03:11:27 PM »
jaboticaba!  I believe some of the eugenias will do fine as well. 

Annonas on pond apple (A. glabra) could handle it no problem.

This link has some info as well. [url]http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs202[url]
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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2015, 03:26:26 PM »
Lychee can handle water. And annonas just because they on pond apple will not handle a lot of  water.
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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2015, 06:21:32 PM »
Not a tree but bananas are very flood-tolerant.

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2015, 10:23:56 PM »
jaboticaba!  I believe some of the eugenias will do fine as well. 

Annonas on pond apple (A. glabra) could handle it no problem.

This link has some info as well. [url]http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs202[url]

Which jaboticabas and eugenias?

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2015, 08:07:16 AM »
We have more threads about flood tolerant tree's but i'll tell my experience once again, last time.

Bangkok (and half Thailand) was flooded some years ago, my mango and pomelo were in 40 cm water for about 2 weeks, they survived perfect.

Around the corner many mango's were in 1-2 meter water for 4-8 weeks and they survived but with problems which are solved by time.

Even a plumeria in my street (big expensive one) survived but had big problems for 2 years.

All durian and jackfruits are gone but the Thai planted new ones allready (on small mounds).

My jaboticaba's have a filled bowl under their pots and they grow well.  Biggest one is 60 cm in 14 months, white jabo.

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2015, 08:46:24 AM »
jaboticaba!  I believe some of the eugenias will do fine as well. 

Annonas on pond apple (A. glabra) could handle it no problem.

This link has some info as well. [url]http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs202[url]

Which jaboticabas and eugenias?
Check for Adam's post on this.  There's much more info
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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2015, 11:18:24 AM »
Black Sapote is flood and drought tolerant

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2015, 11:34:35 AM »
Black Sapote is flood and drought tolerant

that's good to hear...i have 4 seedlings from Australia planted here...so far they love it.

jaboticaba!  I believe some of the eugenias will do fine as well. 

Annonas on pond apple (A. glabra) could handle it no problem.

This link has some info as well. [url]http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs202[url]

Which jaboticabas and eugenias?
Check for Adam's post on this.  There's much more info

too many to list...I think the question is, which ones are not tolerant of wet feet?

I will be finding out more about this as the rainy season progresses.

(wet feet is different than totally flooded....there are not many species I know of that can handle total inundation for extended periods...besides Myrciaria dubia....I can't think of many other plants...although I'm sure they exist.)
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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2015, 01:09:20 AM »
Black Sapote is flood and drought tolerant

that's good to hear...i have 4 seedlings from Australia planted here...so far they love it.

jaboticaba!  I believe some of the eugenias will do fine as well. 

Annonas on pond apple (A. glabra) could handle it no problem.

This link has some info as well. [url]http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs202[url]

Which jaboticabas and eugenias?
Check for Adam's post on this.  There's much more info

too many to list...I think the question is, which ones are not tolerant of wet feet?

I will be finding out more about this as the rainy season progresses.

(wet feet is different than totally flooded....there are not many species I know of that can handle total inundation for extended periods...besides Myrciaria dubia....I can't think of many other plants...although I'm sure they exist.)

Do you think abiu would do well with wet feet? The spot would never be totally submerged if I mound it, but the water table would go from 6 feet deep to 3-2 feet deep at times

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2015, 08:30:25 AM »
Jackfruit and sapodilla can handle wetter conditions.
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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2015, 06:03:13 PM »
Jackfruit and sapodilla can handle wetter conditions.

Better than abiu or jaboticaba?

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2015, 08:34:11 AM »
Good luck with those Adam. I have a few of those down under seedlings as well. Tough customers!  Thanks Mike T. 🍏


Black Sapote is flood and drought tolerant

that's good to hear...i have 4 seedlings from Australia planted here...so far they love it.

jaboticaba!  I believe some of the eugenias will do fine as well. 

Annonas on pond apple (A. glabra) could handle it no problem.

This link has some info as well. [url]http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs202[url]

Which jaboticabas and eugenias?
Check for Adam's post on this.  There's much more info

too many to list...I think the question is, which ones are not tolerant of wet feet?

I will be finding out more about this as the rainy season progresses.

(wet feet is different than totally flooded....there are not many species I know of that can handle total inundation for extended periods...besides Myrciaria dubia....I can't think of many other plants...although I'm sure they exist.)

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2015, 12:03:39 AM »
Jackfruit and sapodilla can handle wetter conditions.

Better than abiu or jaboticaba?

Not necessarily better, just different or other choices.  Not sure how well Abiu will handle the wet feet.
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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2015, 02:12:10 AM »
I think I'll go with a jackfruit since i won't have to worry about fruit falling into the canal as much as I would with jabo/abiu/mango

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2017, 07:41:07 AM »
Didn't want to start a new thread, so I'm hoping to get some info added to this topic from real world growers experiences.

How do Green Sapote, Mamee apple, mulberry, and Barbados cherry do with flooding?

UF puts Canistel as moderately tolerant of flooding, while Mamee sapote as intolerant. Where does that leave Green Sapote?
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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2017, 09:12:45 AM »
Mango trees might be somewhat flood tolerant and I'm about to find out.  After 46+ days of "lake watering" caused by Hurricane Irma here, my mango trees are hanging in there.  The Dwarf Hawaiian has bloomed and the Sweet Tart to its right just finished another flush.


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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2017, 01:39:59 PM »

i was thinking with things like mango and citrus
it would depend on the rootstock.
i know guava is at least somewhat tolerant.






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Flood stress: Guava is considered moderately tolerant of short durations (7 to 14 days) of continuously wet or flooded soil conditions. However, prolonged flooding may lead to fruit and leaf drop, leaf chlorosis, stem dieback, and tree death. Trees are generally more tolerant of flooding during cool weather.
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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2017, 05:09:19 PM »
I have had small Mulberry shoots die in water soaked soil. But, I have had no large mulberry trees die in wet ground yet and they seem to be able to tolerate it when big pretty easy.

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2017, 07:31:14 PM »
Do you think abiu would do well with wet feet? The spot would never be totally submerged if I mound it, but the water table would go from 6 feet deep to 3-2 feet deep at times

High water table isn't so bad. It will be critical to get through the first several years, trees are vulnerable until their roots get out in he soil and able to find small ways to breathe. If one dies from wet feet before 3 years is out, try again.

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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2017, 08:26:23 PM »
my priperty is a living example of what cam grow in tropical lowlands.  Conditioms would be floodimg wvery year from 2" to 3', and several months of high water table (wet feet).  My lost:
Bananas -  survive but not thrive, must have root ball established, new plantings will rot
Mangoes - no visisble issue, seed grown root stock
Soursop - no isssues, seed grown
coconuts - occasional trunk splitting (too much water uptake)
Mulberry - Wilting, survives but basically just waiting for good conditions to grow again
Sapodilla - wet feet currently no problem, no comment on flooding yet
Jackfruit - instant death by wet feet
Durian - instant death by wet feet
Dragonfruit - wilting rotting death by wet feet
Santol - no issues seed grown
Citrus - no issues, perhaps some fruiting issues, but fruiting always picky about anything
Pineapple - no issues - 2 week underwater - no issues
Bilimbi - no issues
Roseapple - no issues
Star gooseberry - no issues
Papaya - death by wet feet
Pomegranate - once established high rate of survival
Cacao - death by flooding
Custard Apple - highly tolerant of both wet feet and flooding once established

also likely some others on my property

Any grafts will likely get diseased when flooding if underwater

Jackfruit - I think waste your time, dont like wet feet, water too close.  8 years do you want to cull because of disease?


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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2017, 08:31:51 PM »
also forgot - starfruit, cashew, edible bamboo, all good for wet feet and flooding.

Coconuts, bananas, and bamboo are all winner in my opinion for next to water. 


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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2017, 09:57:56 AM »
Thanks for the list sahai1. It looks like you have had a lot of experience over a long time for that long list. I have successfully tried several of the ones on the list but I will have to try a few more in my South Florida low areas.
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Re: What are some flood tolerant trees?
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2017, 08:14:11 PM »
maybe Salak too?   they like the lowlands, but not flooding I read, I'm going to plant some.  Gemerally when you read up on any tree they say "likes good draimage, no wet feet" etc, however real life experience shows that many trees actually are much more hardier than that.  I feel like the mangoes actually thrive with some flooding every year, however they have all grown fast and have some roots above ground.