annona graft compatabilities

[Ethan]

I was looking at my soncoya and noticed a branch with nice buds on it so I got the idea to graft it onto cherimoya rootstock and was curious as to which annona scions may be grafted onto which rootstocks?  I’d like to compile a list and maybe a ranking of Good, Moderate and Bad in terms of compatibility.  I’m trying to make it into a quick reference tool so hopefully the format is OK.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Annona graft compatibilities:

Rootstocks
 1.  Annona cherimola:  1(G), 2(G), 3(M?), 4?, 5(G?), 6?, 7(G?), 8(M?), 9(G?), 10(G?)
 2.  Annona cherimola x Annona squamosa: 
 3.  Annona diversifolia: 
 4.  Annona glabra:  3(B)
 5.  Annona hybrid: 
 6.  Annona purpurea: 
 7.  Annona squamosa: 
 8.  Annona montana:  9(G)
 9.   Annona muricata: 
 10.   Annona reticulata:
 11.    Rollinia deliciosa:

Thank you for your help,
-Ethan

[siafu]

 Hi,

 A. murica will graft onto A. montana.

[FloridaGreenMan]

The ilama (A.diversifolia) will graft onto A.glabra and fruit nicely but after a few years the A.glabra rootstock grows faster and much bigger than the scion and it looks weird. Also heard reports of some of these breaking off at the graft during storms. A. glabra is not the ideal choice for ilama.
       

[Ethan]

Thank you Sergio and FGM   How did I miss A. montana?......I added it to the list.

-Ethan

[Guanabanus]

Listing graft compatibilities at the species level is too unreliable to be very useful. 


One should list which variety of scion has worked on which variety of rootstock.  Example: 
Annona diversifolia 'Guillermo' fruits heavily on Annona glabra ' North' roostock for many years, despite "elephant's foot" (disproportionate growth of the rootstock).

[bangkok]

Can i graft a muricata L. onto squamosa Pet pak chong or the squamosa on the muricata?

Squamosa Pet pakchong on muricata L.would gave a flooding-tolerant tree which can be usefull in my place.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

bangkok

sorry i dont think that they're compatible!

[FlyingFoxFruits]

was recently surprised to see meiogyne cylindrocarpa is compatible with rollinia emarginata.

[Guanabanus]

Nice.

[marklee]

I have a good graft of reticulata on a cherimoya.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

just grafted annona dioica into a reticulata rootstock.

I'll let you know if it works!

[marklee]

I have trouble getting any takes of diversifolia on to cherimoya. Has anyone done good with this?

[Mike T]

It seems likely that flower form and similarity is a good guide with many genera as to genetic relationships and potentially compatibility for grafting. Annonas with similar flower types should in theory be more compatible for grafting. 

[FlyingFoxFruits]

I have trouble getting any takes of diversifolia on to cherimoya. Has anyone done good with this?

as Har pointed out earlier...some varieties within a species exhibit different compatibility...so some pond apples will be less compatible than others, some cherimoyas are more compatible than others.

JF had success with cherimoya, so maybe it would be wise to figure out where his seeds come from (that he uses for rootstock) and also find out what cultivar of illama he's had success with.

Me and my friend tried cherimoya rootstocks for illama scions, and none took.  The same grafting technique applied to illama scions on illama stock were successful.

so it seems confusing to say the least!

[Mike T]

Besides relatedness there could be a climate thing going on with compatibility. Trees adapted to cooler or drier conditions may not be as accepting to wet tropical budwood for example.Wood and leaf structures and form are adapted for where they originate and this could be something to consider. Cherimoya and ilama are from different climates even if quite closely related. 

[FlyingFoxFruits]

was recently surprised to see meiogyne cylindrocarpa is compatible with rollinia emarginata.

although they pushed out and grew nicely...I think this one is incompatible over the long haul!

[Guanabanus]

Thank you for the update.

[davidgarcia899]

Hey Adam what about diocia on reticulata?

[siafu]

I have trouble getting any takes of diversifolia on to cherimoya. Has anyone done good with this?

as Har pointed out earlier...some varieties within a species exhibit different compatibility...so some pond apples will be less compatible than others, some cherimoyas are more compatible than others.

JF had success with cherimoya, so maybe it would be wise to figure out where his seeds come from (that he uses for rootstock) and also find out what cultivar of illama he's had success with.

Me and my friend tried cherimoya rootstocks for illama scions, and none took.  The same grafting technique applied to illama scions on illama stock were successful.

so it seems confusing to say the least!

I have had great success grafting ilama onto cherimoya rootstock using a cleft graft. I believe I have a 5 out of 5 success rate,
using the same ilama donnor and cherimoya rootstock.

These grafts have been done in the spring, when cherimoya is already pushing new growth, while the ilama scion is still dormant
or nearly so.

This Spring I also tried to graft R. mucosa onto that same cherimoya rootstock.
One of two grafts took, and it is now pushing new growth. It's the first time I
managed to graft R. mucosa onto a different species.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Hey Adam what about diocia on reticulata?

that seems to work well...my friend did this graft about a year ago...and his plant is growing nicely ever since!!

I bet cherimoya would work too.

[Bob407]

Over a year later this A. dioica is moving right along on A. reticulata. The union is swelling on the reticulata side but it only seems aesthetic at this point.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

reminds me of the grafted green sapotes i've  seen!


lookin good!

I think this is the first time I've heard of anyone doing this graft.

[huertasurbanas]

Hi, today I grafted reticulata on cherimoya: should it work?

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Hi, today I grafted reticulata on cherimoya: should it work?

ya

[Guanabanus]

I have a large plant of a Rollinia species, probably sylvatica, grafted onto Annona montana.  When the scion is fully leaved out in the late spring or early summer, I cut down the vigorous rootstock suckers, then allow new suckers to re-grow, so that there are many healthy large leaves of the rootstock to keep the tropical roots fed over the winter months, when the temperate zone scion is bare.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

I have a large plant of a Rollinia species, probably sylvatica, grafted onto Annona montana.  When the scion is fully leaved out in the late spring or early summer, I cut down the vigorous rootstock suckers, then allow new suckers to re-grow, so that there are many healthy large leaves of the rootstock to keep the tropical roots fed over the winter months, when the temperate zone scion is bare.

Interesting stratagem ... I suppose not all suckers are bad.

Thanks for sharing!

[Ethan]

Dust off this old post with a quick update.

Soursop (A. Muricata)  on cherimoya  (A. Cherimola), still growing nicely.



A. Senegalensis on A. Cherimola,  this is the first year it fruited. The mother plant has fruited in the past but this is the first time on Cherimola.








I working on another graft, hopefully I can report back in a few weeks!

[Bush2Beach]

Nice 1 Ethan! I'm sure you've got other impressive fruit happening 's in the "lab" as well.
Has anyone fruited A. Dioica grafted on Cherimoya? I had a big one in a 25 G but gave it away and lost track of her.
Speaking of which, Your 6 ft Madruno ended up at my house and is looking great by the way!

[Ethan]

Thank you B2B, it is fun and some times surprising to experimenting with different grafts.

Good luck with the madrono, it was a good grower!