I bought velvet apple seeds from Luc last year and they arrived in Irma's aftermath. Every one of them sprouted and was growing well until I had the misting system on and they were moist when the night time temperature dropped below 50 F. All but 6 died within one day. So keep them on the dry side, especially if cool night time temperatures are expected. I hope to order more seeds from Luc this year now that my propagation area has been rehabilitated.