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Title: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 26, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
I have a fascination with fruits that have high fat content.

I think that these fats play an essential role in human health, and that they should be sought after by those who are trying to improve their health/diet (especially if u r vegan or vegetarian).  It's been really hard for me to find a good fruit fat, other than avocado/coconut! 

I think that each species of plant that has a fatty fruit, has a unique fruit fat, that is beneficial in it's own way.  As a result, I'm trying to diversify my sources for fat in a fruit.

I'd like to compile a list of fatty fruits here.

of course all nuts, coconut, Avocado, akee and Engkala, and Durian make the list.

But what about fruits like,  Uxi ? (Endopleura uchi)

in particular I'm looking for fruits that are fleshy, and not like nuts, or similar to coconut...where the endosperm is consumed...I'm looking for fat in pulp/flesh (mesocarp)....not a seed!

It's supposed to have a super high oil content, and a nice flavor.

The tree is from Brazil, and of tropical origins.  The Uxi's large size, cold sensitivity and lengthy time period required to produce fruits, are the 3 main culprits that keep me from further investigating this species as a candidate for my container garden in zone 9b, FL.

I can't stop looking at the tree, because the foliage is so beautiful and it's in a family I've never heard of before.  I have not seen any other members of this family being referenced in any fruit books I've read online or anywhere.  The family is Humiriaceae.

It will be nice to hear from you about trees like I've described, and more about this tree in particular.  If anyone has eaten one first hand (I hear they are best prepared, due to how oily they are), that would be great if you'd post an account of your experience.

also if there are some other fat fruits I've forgotten.

thanks in advance for posting.

(http://www.mudasparaiso.com.br/uxi.jpg)

PS:
Turns out as I was researching in my Brazilian fruit book, i found out that Acai (Euterpe oleracea), and Tucum (bactris setosa) have high levels of fat! This shouldn't surprise me, because they are palms, but for some reason it did.  I wonder if they take the measurement of fat from a sample of fruit that contains the endosperm?  The levels of fat in these plants is actually astounding to me.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: tabbydan on September 26, 2012, 04:12:04 PM
some others...

fruit & seed: african oil palm
seed: Theobroma, Herrania,...
fruit: saifu, shea, ackee
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Mike T on September 26, 2012, 04:13:18 PM
Saff it looks like you have identified the major ones (or is that kernel ones?).Durios,avos,olives and a variety of seeds used as vegies would be my pick here.If we're chewing the fat about palms I think most have low fat content with acai and coconuts being exceptions.Deep fried bananas and pineapple fritters can be pretty greasy.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: bsbullie on September 26, 2012, 04:22:53 PM
While not a fruit, soybeans (and some soybean products) have a high beneficial fat content.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: DurianLover on September 26, 2012, 04:40:38 PM
How about cempedak? What's the fat content? It feels juicy and creamy at the same time. Someone else mentioned on this forum that mocambo (Theobroma bicolor) is somewhat creamy like cempedak.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: bsbullie on September 26, 2012, 05:43:55 PM
How about cempedak? What's the fat content? It feels juicy and creamy at the same time. Someone else mentioned on this forum that mocambo (Theobroma bicolor) is somewhat creamy like cempedak.
While it may seem creamy (I will do some checking to see if I can find any figures), as is canistel, ross sapote and even mamey sapote, I am pretty sure that none of them fall into the "high fat" group.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: tabbydan on September 26, 2012, 05:45:26 PM
I think Artocarpus have "normal" fat content for a fruit (low amounts), same with the pulp of the Theobromas (but the seeds have high fat content).

The Laurel family has lots of fruits with fatty flesh, avocado and engkala are just the best known examples... but there are PLENTY of others (the Litsea genus itself seems to have a lot).

Ackee is an oddball because most of its relatives, mammonicillo, lytchee, longan, rambutan, talisia... have low fat content.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 26, 2012, 05:56:32 PM
While not a fruit, soybeans (and some soybean products) have a high beneficial fat content.

also i think the soy bean is the endosperm, not the mesocarp...as stated in my description of what i"m searching for.

thanks for posting!

Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: bsbullie on September 26, 2012, 05:57:31 PM
While the following from Julia Morton is for jackfruit, not champedek, I am sure it would not be too far off:

 Food Value Per 100 g of Edible Portion

                     Pulp (ripe-fresh)        Seeds (fresh)    Seeds (dried)
Calories                       98       
Moisture                   72.0-77.2 g        51.6-57.77 g    
Protein                     1.3-1.9 g                     6.6 g    
Fat                             0.1-0.3 g                     0.4 g    
Carbohydrates            18.9-25.4 g             38.4 g    
Fiber                             1.0-1.1 g                     1.5 g    
Ash                              0.8-1.0 g         1.25-1.50 g                    2.96%
Calcium                        22 mg                0.05-0.55 mg            0.13%
Phosphorus                38 mg                0.13-0.23 mg            0.54%
Iron                               0.5 mg                0.002-1.2 mg            0.005%
Sodium                          2 mg       
Potassium                    407 mg       
Vitamin A                       540 I.U.       
Thiamine                      0.03 mg       
Niacin                          4 mg       
Ascorbic Acid              8-10 mg       
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: bsbullie on September 26, 2012, 05:59:33 PM
While not a fruit, soybeans (and some soybean products) have a high beneficial fat content.

also i think the soy bean is the endosperm, not the mesocarp...as stated in my description of what i"m searching for.

thanks for posting!
I know, was just throwing it out there....as it is available in different edible forms, its fat is considered highly beneficial.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on September 26, 2012, 06:00:44 PM
Never heard of uxi. Durian has very high fat content. I found that out the hard way when i returned from Thailand and weighed myself!!! I had gained about 20 pounds.  :o
Morton book has good nutritional charts and you can look up fat content of fruits she lists. Other books may also have some nutritional information charts.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 26, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
I think u r right BSBULLIE.

unless u eat the nuts of the fruits, they probably don't have significant amounts.

thanks

How about cempedak? What's the fat content? It feels juicy and creamy at the same time. Someone else mentioned on this forum that mocambo (Theobroma bicolor) is somewhat creamy like cempedak.
While it may seem creamy (I will do some checking to see if I can find any figures), as is canistel, ross sapote and even mamey sapote, I am pretty sure that none of them fall into the "high fat" group.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 26, 2012, 06:04:49 PM
Grow one for me in HI.

I think you can do it!

You will be my hero...once again.
Never heard of uxi. Durian has very high fat content. I found that out the hard way when i returned from Thailand and weighed myself!!! I had gained about 20 pounds.  :o
Morton book has good nutritional charts and you can look up fat content of fruits she lists. Other books may also have some nutritional information charts.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Mike T on September 26, 2012, 06:07:40 PM
If you're in the market for fats I suggest a big Mac and fries for all the 'essential oils' you can handle.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 26, 2012, 06:10:07 PM
If you're in the market for fats I suggest a big Mac and fries for all the 'essential oils' you can handle.

When I eat a big mac, I can taste how unhappy the cow was when it died.

 :)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 26, 2012, 06:11:56 PM
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2787.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2787.0)

do u have any info on this Mike T...while I've got you on the phone.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on September 26, 2012, 06:15:39 PM
If you're in the market for fats I suggest a big Mac and fries for all the 'essential oils' you can handle.

Yes oils, and preservatives, hormones, antibiotics, artificial colorings, artificial flavorings, and genetically modified crops, herbicides, pesticides, miticides, soil fumigants. Then after that the meat is irradiated. Oh, would you like a dab of pink slime with that? You could call it a cocktail burger. HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: bsbullie on September 26, 2012, 06:41:33 PM
If you're in the market for fats I suggest a big Mac and fries for all the 'essential oils' you can handle.

Yes oils, and preservatives, hormones, antibiotics, artificial colorings, artificial flavorings, and genetically modified crops, herbicides, pesticides, miticides, soil fumigants. Then after that the meat is irradiated. Oh, would you like a dab of pink slime with that? You could call it a cocktail burger. HAHAHAHA
damn...there goes dinner  ;) ??? :P :-\ :blank:
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: red durian on September 26, 2012, 06:49:13 PM
Craboo/nance Byrsonima crassifolia is a bit fatty.  I grew to love it in Belize.  Probably being grown in Florida in some gardens as it ranges up into Mexico naturally.  It is one of the most harvest-friendly fruits on the planet.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Mike T on September 26, 2012, 06:55:10 PM
Saff it is than bane of many farmers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carissa_spinarum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carissa_spinarum)
This conkerberry is highly variable and apparently reaches the the heights of being exceptionally ordinary in the finest specimens.A climate with a little less rain and hotter summers than Phoenix would be ideal.They have high pest potential and there I go again giving a species more credit than it deserves.

It sounds like the most healthful way to eat the big mac and fries would be just to squeeze out the glass of fat/oil and guzzle that down.Fat enthusiasts might find the drink more of a treat than I would.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on September 26, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
If you're in the market for fats I suggest a big Mac and fries for all the 'essential oils' you can handle.

Yes oils, and preservatives, hormones, antibiotics, artificial colorings, artificial flavorings, and genetically modified crops, herbicides, pesticides, miticides, soil fumigants. Then after that the meat is irradiated. Oh, would you like a dab of pink slime with that? You could call it a cocktail burger. HAHAHAHA
damn...there goes dinner  ;) ??? :P :-\ :blank:

Enjoy your McDonald's cocktail burger. A real molotov cocktail in your stomach! Bon apetit. 
For more information on McDonald's french fries watch the movie Supersize Me. Really great how their fries could stand on the cupboard for months without growing any mold on them! Even lower life forms are smart enough not to eat them. HAHAHA  Now if humans would wise up! ::)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on September 26, 2012, 06:58:19 PM
Craboo/nance Byrsonima crassifolia is a bit fatty.  I grew to love it in Belize.  Probably being grown in Florida in some gardens as it ranges up into Mexico naturally.  It is one of the most harvest-friendly fruits on the planet.

Nance is a very nice tasting fruit with unusual taste. In Brazil they make an excellent ice cream out of it. Was one of my favorites. Tree also very ornamental with very pretty flowers.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Felipe on September 26, 2012, 06:58:46 PM
Don`t forget this baby: Mauritia flexuosa BTW, the raw taste reminded me a lot of olives...

The flesh of mocambo has not fat, but of course the seeds if you roast them ;)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on September 26, 2012, 07:16:38 PM
Don`t forget this baby: Mauritia flexuosa BTW, the raw taste reminded me a lot of olives...

The flesh of mocambo has not fat, but of course the seeds if you roast them ;)

Lots of palms have fruits that are very fatty. One of the fattiest i tasted is tucuma (Astrocaryum vulgare). But acai and buriti (M. flexuosa) are also very oily. Acai is made into a wonderful porridge like soup in Brazil. Very filling! Tastes like avocado with black olives mixed in.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Tropicdude on September 26, 2012, 07:42:23 PM
Bactris gasipaes ( Peach palm )  I had some, and liked their taste, to me they tasted like buttered popcorn.

Dont forget the Theobromas ( Cupuacu, cacao, pataxte )

Turmeric root , is about 15% fat. plus has many other health benefits.

Some other grains like Amaranth,  about 11%.

I know these are not technically fruits, but added them here anyway as they are decent sources of fats from non animal sources.

When one speaks of nuts,  there are so many,  that , this alone would give you all the fats anyone would need.

protein in fruits is probably even harder to find.

 

Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on September 26, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
Don`t forget this baby: Mauritia flexuosa BTW, the raw taste reminded me a lot of olives...

The flesh of mocambo has not fat, but of course the seeds if you roast them ;)

Lots of palms have fruits that are very fatty. One of the fattiest i tasted is tucuma (Astrocaryum vulgare). But acai and buriti (M. flexuosa) are also very oily. Acai is made into a wonderful porridge like soup in Brazil. Very filling! Tastes like avocado with black olives mixed in.

Forgot to say, tucuma fruit is so oily it is commonly eaten as a sandwhich, kind of like spreading butter on your sandwich bread.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: bsbullie on September 26, 2012, 07:56:39 PM
Craboo/nance Byrsonima crassifolia is a bit fatty.  I grew to love it in Belize.  Probably being grown in Florida in some gardens as it ranges up into Mexico naturally.  It is one of the most harvest-friendly fruits on the planet.

Nance is a very nice tasting fruit with unusual taste. In Brazil they make an excellent ice cream out of it. Was one of my favorites. Tree also very ornamental with very pretty flowers.
Nance is commonly grown, well maybe not commonly but it is grown, by some of the Central & South American community here in SFla.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 26, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
thanks to all the lipid lovers that have been posting!

I'm loving it!  like makudonarudo.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: bsbullie on September 26, 2012, 07:58:33 PM
If you're in the market for fats I suggest a big Mac and fries for all the 'essential oils' you can handle.

Yes oils, and preservatives, hormones, antibiotics, artificial colorings, artificial flavorings, and genetically modified crops, herbicides, pesticides, miticides, soil fumigants. Then after that the meat is irradiated. Oh, would you like a dab of pink slime with that? You could call it a cocktail burger. HAHAHAHA
damn...there goes dinner  ;) ??? :P :-\ :blank:

Enjoy your McDonald's cocktail burger. A real molotov cocktail in your stomach! Bon apetit. 
For more information on McDonald's french fries watch the movie Supersize Me. Really great how their fries could stand on the cupboard for months without growing any mold on them! Even lower life forms are smart enough not to eat them. HAHAHA  Now if humans would wise up! ::)
Hope you know I was kidding...having braised Icelandic lamb shanks tonight for dinner.  Hmmm...think that is available on any MickeeDs menus?  ;) 8) ::) :P
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: DurianLover on September 27, 2012, 03:00:09 AM
Another fatty fruit is Dabai (tropical olive).  Taste just like avocado. Fruit is very appealing...However, seed to flesh ratio is disappointing (seed is much bigger than in regular olive), and skin is not eatable. I was told 3-5 generation chinese and indian "sarawakians" never adopted this fruit in their diets. However, native Malays buying them like crazy.

Btw, anyone growing it?

Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on September 27, 2012, 03:57:54 AM
Another fatty fruit is Dabai (tropical olive).  Taste just like avocado. Fruit is very appealing...However, seed to flesh ratio is disappointing (seed is much bigger than in regular olive), and skin is not eatable. I was told 3-5 generation chinese and indian "sarawakians" never adopted this fruit in their diets. However, native Malays buying them like crazy.

Btw, anyone growing it?

I guess you are referring to Canarium odontophyllum? The seed is edible also, but not as large as with Pili Nut, C. ovatum. All the canrium fruits have oily exterior which can be eaten, but main prize is usually the nut.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: DurianLover on September 27, 2012, 06:08:03 PM

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I guess you are referring to Canarium odontophyllum? The seed is edible also, but not as large as with Pili Nut, C. ovatum. All the canrium fruits have oily exterior which can be eaten, but main prize is usually the nut.
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Yes, the same fruit, but I really don't think people buying it for nut. Utilization of entire fruit is very time consuming. You have to peel it, than soak it in hot water (otherwise it's almoast as hard as tire rubber). And it is  hard nut to crack due to unusual shape. Than you have to start "fishing" with toothpick. Really how much nut can you pick up on the tip of the toothpick?:)  Nut is very soft like boiled peanut, but with better flavour.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on September 27, 2012, 06:55:57 PM


I guess you are referring to Canarium odontophyllum? The seed is edible also, but not as large as with Pili Nut, C. ovatum. All the canrium fruits have oily exterior which can be eaten, but main prize is usually the nut.
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Yes, the same fruit, but I really don't think people buying it for nut. Utilization of entire fruit is very time consuming. You have to peel it, than soak it in hot water (otherwise it's almoast as hard as tire rubber). And it is  hard nut to crack due to unusual shape. Than you have to start "fishing" with toothpick. Really how much nut can you pick up on the tip of the toothpick?:)  Nut is very soft like boiled peanut, but with better flavour.
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Ok that's what i thought from the size of the dabai nut. I have some dabai trees growing here but haven't fruited yet. BTW, pili nut is nice large size and VERY tasty!
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: nullzero on September 27, 2012, 07:18:46 PM
I am surprised no one mentioned Dacryodes edulis yet. http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11879&page=61 (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11879&page=61)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: BMc on September 27, 2012, 07:40:12 PM
was mentioned in the first reply.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 27, 2012, 08:44:20 PM
In hindsight after posting,I'm thinking that fruits of palm species will have good fat content in mesocarps of fruit.

so maybe we can also suggest some families of trees that typically have high lipid content.
 

o btw, I noticed muntingia calabura has a somewhat significant amount of fat, according to Julia Morton. 1.56 mg per 100 grams of edible fruit.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 27, 2012, 08:46:15 PM
sorry that's 1.56g not mg.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: nullzero on September 27, 2012, 08:50:18 PM
was mentioned in the first reply.

The webpage search function may have not worked correctly. I over looked it I guess  :-[.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on February 28, 2013, 07:59:25 PM
How could I forget? Tucum.

Bactris setosa (the thorniest thing I've ever grown) has a very high fat content...43.7g per 100g of fruit.

The tree is cold tolerant (25F ?)can be grown in standing water, or on dry land if irrigated.  The acid/sweet fruits are similar to jaboticaba in appearance, and are eaten in the same way...with skins being discarded, after the pulp is consumed.
(http://s21.postimage.org/b0nsj1wjn/bactris_S.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/b0nsj1wjn/)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on February 28, 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Are those your Bactris setosa fruits in the photo? If so i want some seeds! I'm big on Bactris.  Love peach palm (pejibaye) fruits.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on February 28, 2013, 11:54:35 PM
Are those your Bactris setosa fruits in the photo? If so i want some seeds! I'm big on Bactris.  Love peach palm (pejibaye) fruits.

Oscar!

I wish!

the tree I have might fruit this year if I'm lucky...
I just stepped it up into a 20gal pot, and it had the craziest roots ever...and I had to handle the tree like a pro wrestler, slamming it into the new pot, to avoid the hellacious thorns.

I will keep an eye out for seeds though...I think I know where a fruiting specimen is.

also...I'm not convinced yet about the fat content...my only source for nutritional info is Lorenzis book...and its got some errors.

if the nutritional info is accurate, bactris setosa has more fat than any other fruit profiled in the book...even more than coconuts and avocados...which is hard to believe.

im wondering if there is a way to find another source for nutritional info ?
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: roboto212 on March 05, 2013, 10:42:32 PM
My friend stubbed his foot on a thorn about 10 days ago... went straight in and he just got it out today! When I first saw the thorn I immediately thought of that picture of Bactris setosa :

(http://s21.postimage.org/b0nsj1wjn/bactris_S.jpg)


Could the thorn that poked my friend possibly be the same/similar.

:
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/75507_10100813509572206_111542328_n.jpg)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: roboto212 on March 05, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
btw my friend was at a property called the Palm Farm, where he tells me there are alot of different kinds of palms growing on the property.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on March 05, 2013, 11:50:25 PM
Tons of palms with thorns, not just Bactris.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Sanddollarmoon on August 09, 2013, 11:05:37 PM
Elaeocarpus, a tropical edible and ornamental genus, has it's own selection of oil-rich fruits, with one fruit being the Himalayan olive (elaeocarpus lanceifolius). Looking like an apple-sized green olive (tasting like one as well), and having a texture reminiscent to an avocado, these can be dried, pickled, and eaten fresh. I recently planted two pits, which look like three-lobed walnut.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Luisport on August 10, 2013, 08:24:04 AM
Yes i agree, this fruits like avocado are very important to our body. I love dry fruits too like almonds, wallnuts, hazelnuts and macadamias
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Mike T on August 10, 2013, 08:46:00 AM
Did uxi and Lecythis get mentioned? I have seeds planted and it will be years before they can satisfy my love of lipids.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Luisport on August 10, 2013, 12:29:42 PM
the breadfruit too i think
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on August 10, 2013, 04:00:25 PM
Did uxi and Lecythis get mentioned? I have seeds planted and it will be years before they can satisfy my love of lipids.

sounds like you've been reviewing Brazilian Fruits and cultivated exotics...did you recently get a copy?

Uxi was the first fruit mentioned in this thread.

I wish I could grow it, but I'm afraid it's too large, and cold sensitive...but it would be worth growing just for the foliage.



Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Mike T on August 10, 2013, 06:23:38 PM
Saff I was given the Lorenzi book and sought other interesting species as well as others. Suddenly I have about 50 species new to me in pots as seeds and emerging seedlings and some in good numbers. They include Annonas, Pouterias,Eugenias,jaboticabas,Garcinias and about a dozen other genera. I just received camu camu but M.tenella is the missing one.
I don't have room.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on August 10, 2013, 09:46:51 PM
Saff I was given the Lorenzi book and sought other interesting species as well as others. Suddenly I have about 50 species new to me in pots as seeds and emerging seedlings and some in good numbers. They include Annonas, Pouterias,Eugenias,jaboticabas,Garcinias and about a dozen other genera. I just received camu camu but M.tenella is the missing one.
I don't have room.

nice work Mike...you have all the best families.

btw..there's supposed to be a true M tenella, that makes excellent tasting, but small fruits

 and another tenella that's inferior.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on August 13, 2013, 02:15:23 AM
the breadfruit too i think

Fat content in breadfruit is very low. It's a fruit mostly high in carbohydrates.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: EvilFruit on August 13, 2013, 07:16:23 AM
what about Chrysobalanus icaco ??
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on August 13, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
what about Chrysobalanus icaco ??

I think only the seed, which is quite tasty, contains oil.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: micah on June 28, 2014, 12:41:17 PM
Elaeocarpus, a tropical edible and ornamental genus, has it's own selection of oil-rich fruits, with one fruit being the Himalayan olive (elaeocarpus lanceifolius). Looking like an apple-sized green olive (tasting like one as well), and having a texture reminiscent to an avocado, these can be dried, pickled, and eaten fresh. I recently planted two pits, which look like three-lobed walnut.
Hi has anyone tried this Elaeocarpus sp the  Himalayan olive?  We also have a few trees. Very vigorous grower.
How about copal tree or stinking toe tree. hymenea couribral. 
Oeneocarpus bataua palm  the protein value of pulp is similar is comparable to animal protein , and much better than that of grains or legumes... Says one book. ..I tried to grow here..no luck so far.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: ben mango on June 29, 2014, 12:28:25 AM
Marang has a little bit of oil but not much, just the right amount  :)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: gunnar429 on October 31, 2014, 02:46:03 PM
Any updates/recommendations on your fatty fruit search?
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on November 02, 2014, 03:19:46 PM
Any updates/recommendations on your fatty fruit search?

Sorry no new news!  :-[

Bactris setosa fruited! I wonder if anyone had seeds germinate yet?
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: zands on November 02, 2014, 04:52:23 PM
Akee  has probably  been mentioned. If I had the room I would plant two of them. I have peeled and cooked them a few times when a friend had an akee tree. Never had a problem with  the harmful stuff in it

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20121009/lead/lead92.html (http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20121009/lead/lead92.html)


THE BOTANICAL name of Jamaica's national fruit, the ackee is Blighia sapida.

According to Wikipedia, this scientific name honours Captain William Bligh, a famous English sailor who took the fruit from Jamaica to the Royal Botanic Gardens in Kew, England in 1793, where it was introduced to science.

It is originally from West Africa and is related to the lychee fruit.
The common name is derived from the West African name, Akye fufo.

Although very popular and widely used, many misconceptions and fictions still surround the consumption of this fruit.

ACKEE - NUTRITION FACTS

Serving size 3.5 oz. (100g canned/drained)

Calories 151

Total fat 15.2g

Saturated Fat 0g

Cholesterol 0g

Total carbohydrates 2.7g

Dietary fibre 0.8g

Protein 2.9 g

Per cent of calories from:

Fat 90.2%

Carbs 2.1%

Protein 7.7%

Also contains vitamins A, C, B2, B3, folic acid, calcium, potassium, sodium, phosphorus, iron, and zinc.

Source, Caribbean Food and Nutrition Institute

Good or bad fat?

Ackee is a high-fat food and a common misconception about it is that ackee contains lot of cholesterol and unhealthy fats. This is absolutely erroneous.

Research from the Department of Biochemistry, University of the West Indies, Mona, found 51 to 58 per cent of the dry weight of ackee was lipid (fat), with linoleic, palmitic and stearic acids, very healthy fats, being the major fatty acids present.

According to The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO), ackee is a good source of these beneficial fats and provides an excellent source of fatty acids in the traditional Jamaican diet.

I again remind readers of a basic fact: cholesterol is found only in foods of animal origin, as plants do not make this substance. There is, therefore, no cholesterol at all in ackees or, for that matter, in avocados, coconuts, peanuts or cashews.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on November 02, 2014, 08:38:27 PM
Zands

I think you are first to mention akee!!!

Good call!
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on November 02, 2014, 09:52:29 PM
Hi Zands, good info on akee. Just a couple of little corrections. About cholesterol, no fruit or vegetable or seed contains cholesterol. Only animal products can contain cholesterol. Also i wouldn't call Bligh a simple sailor. He was the captain of a ship. Would be nice if a new version of the movie Mutiny on the Bounty ever mentioned the real reason for that voyage. Also would be nice to have a sequel with Captain Bligh going back to Jamaica and succesfully delivering the breadfruit plants and then hunting down and prosecuting the mutineers.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on November 02, 2014, 10:03:16 PM
Zands

I think you are first to mention akee!!!

Good call!

Oops it was mentioned before, but thanks again for the info!
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: TerraFrutisEcuador on April 30, 2017, 07:58:14 PM
gustavia macarenensis, engkala, avocado, durian, olive, dabai, ackee, safou, aguaje, dacryodes rostrata, pangium edule, I think this is all I have for now. Recently searching for fatty fruits also because pleasure found in ackee, durian, gustavia, avocado etc.

Let the hunt continue!
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: RiversOFT on April 30, 2017, 08:39:44 PM
I've heard cherimoya is pretty high in omega 3 fatty acids for a fruit
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: englewoodhomegrown on April 30, 2017, 09:49:02 PM
First time seeing this thread, great topic!

Gac is high in fat, right?

eleagnus latifolia has some decent fat content, I believe.

Purslane, the weed, is high is omega 3 fatty acid, if that counts...

also, never knew there was notable fat content in muntingia fruit, very cool:)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: wonderfruit on May 01, 2017, 05:20:28 AM
When I tryed sunsapote. The consistency was exactly as avocado fruit. Other taste though.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Jared on May 01, 2017, 09:57:04 AM
I had Uxi and didn't like it. Its like a greasy sapodilla
Attalea is good though, kind of like a mix of coconut and cheddar cheese.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: BajaJohn on May 02, 2017, 03:51:00 PM
Another consideration that the OP hinted at was the nutritional content which for fats would be essential fatty acids - Omega 3 and 6. Avocados are low in these. Olives seem to have a similar fat content with higher omega 3 and 6 content. Arguably, the omega 3 content is somewhat low but there doesn't seem to be enough academic data to understand dietary needs of either in sufficient detail.
This publication (http://scholar.google.com.mx/scholar_url?url=http://www.apjcn.org/update%255Cpdf%255C1999%255C1%255C24-31%255C24.pdf&hl=en&sa=X&scisig=AAGBfm0ftDOjrwNywOqWq9Xe7lvzIZKHyQ&nossl=1&oi=scholarr&ved=0ahUKEwi6x_7289HTAhXBv1QKHTm0BS4QgAMIGygAMAA (http://scholar.google.com.mx/scholar_url?url=http://www.apjcn.org/update%255Cpdf%255C1999%255C1%255C24-31%255C24.pdf&hl=en&sa=X&scisig=AAGBfm0ftDOjrwNywOqWq9Xe7lvzIZKHyQ&nossl=1&oi=scholarr&ved=0ahUKEwi6x_7289HTAhXBv1QKHTm0BS4QgAMIGygAMAA)) reports nutritional content of some Malaysian fruits.
Dubai (canarium odontophyllum -26 %), kembayau (dacryodes rostrata f. 16%), have fat content higher than avocado. Other sources claim they are high in lipids. Other fruits contain as much fat as durian - around 4%.
Another issue to consider is dry weight versus wet weight. Bananas seem high using dry weight. Very juicy fruits will show a low content when wet but a much higher content when dried. Since your body can extract the water, the dry weight may be a more useful comparison.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Exotic.Brazilian.Fruits on May 02, 2017, 09:17:29 PM
Hello,

Uxi is very tasty in the form of ice cream, creams and cooked, raw it has a strange, oily taste, it is a seed that takes more than a year to germinate.

Which Attalea did you eat fruit?

Depending on the species, the most delicious is to eat the nut that exists inside the coconuts, some types of Attalea the pulp can be used for juices and sweet, of the nuts, could take medicinal oils to make cosmetics.







I had Uxi and didn't like it. Its like a greasy sapodilla
Attalea is good though, kind of like a mix of coconut and cheddar cheese.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: BajaJohn on May 03, 2017, 02:06:25 AM
Another reference. Brazilian fruit nutritional content - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281753599_Proximate_compositions_mineral_contents_and_fatty_acid_compositions_of_native_Amazonian_fruits. (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281753599_Proximate_compositions_mineral_contents_and_fatty_acid_compositions_of_native_Amazonian_fruits.)
Umari poraqueiba sericea - 12 - 15% , 20% lipids. Mostly seed but has a thin, reportedly pleasant tasting mesocarp that is used like butter on cassava bread.
Uxi endopleura uchi - 19% fats, 20% lipids.
Piquia Caryocar brasiliense - 13% fat, 15% lipids. Normally pollinated by bats.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Jared on May 03, 2017, 11:12:17 PM
Not sure! Do you know the name of this one?



Hello,

Uxi is very tasty in the form of ice cream, creams and cooked, raw it has a strange, oily taste, it is a seed that takes more than a year to germinate.

Which Attalea did you eat fruit?

Depending on the species, the most delicious is to eat the nut that exists inside the coconuts, some types of Attalea the pulp can be used for juices and sweet, of the nuts, could take medicinal oils to make cosmetics.







I had Uxi and didn't like it. Its like a greasy sapodilla
Attalea is good though, kind of like a mix of coconut and cheddar cheese.
(https://s30.postimg.cc/wsi5258xp/20170224_135200.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wsi5258xp/)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Future on November 09, 2017, 12:40:05 PM
I also am keen on high fat fruits.  There is quite a range here on what's considered fatty.  3% fat in a Durian...is high for most fruits perhaps, but low for a fatty food.  Lots of good references here for me to read up on.  Thanks for starting this thread.

Has green plantain been mentioned?  13% fat.  Ripe might be 11%.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Acacia on March 05, 2019, 06:06:59 AM
Went looking for fatty fruits, found this thread.

First post here.. hope you don’t mind me reviving an old thread with some notes I took while reading this and doing some googling.

Thanks for all the posts so far, I found lots of interesting new fruits.

Lauraceae -
Persea - Avocado, Coyo
Litsea - Engkala
Beilschmiedia - Anay

Avocado
Protein 2g
Fat - 15g
Carbs - 8.6

Anay
Protein - 1.6-1.8g
Fat - 12.9-17.44g
Carbs - 3.32-3.9g

Engkala
Protein 1.4g
Fat 6.8g
Carbs 10g

Burseraceae -
Canarium - Dabai, White Olive, Pili Nut, African elemi
Dacryodes - Safou, Kembayau

Dabai
Protein 3.8g   
Fat 26.2 g
Carbs not sure

Safou
Protein 25.9g
Fat 31.9g
Carbs 17.9g

Arecaceae -

Salak and dates are low fat but a lot of palm fruits contain a lot of fat..

Coconut Flesh
Protein 3.3g
Fat - 33g
Carbs - 15g

Tucum pulp
Protein 5.9g
Fat 22g
Carbs 19.5g

Buriti pulp
Protein 3.7g
Fat 19g
Carbs 26g

Patawa pulp
Protein 4.9g
Fat 14.4g
Carbs 46g

Aguaje powder?
Protein 11g
Fat 38.6g
Carbs 46g

Peach Palm
Protein 2.6g
Fat 4.4g
Carbs 41.7g

Acai
Protein 1g
Fat 5g
Carbs 4g

Asam Paya
Protein 0.8g
Fat 3.1g
Carbs 11.8g

Other fruits with high fat content

Akee
Protein - 2.9-8.8g
Fat - 18.78g
Carbs - 9.55g

Durian
Protein 1.47 g   
Fat 5.33 g
Carbs 27.09

Olives
Protein 0.8g
Fat 10.7g
Carbs 6.3g

Umari
Protein 2.7g
Fat 21.1g
Carbs 20.1

Pequi Pulp
Protein 2.65g
Fat 10g
Carbs ?

Uxi Pulp
Protein 0.88g
Fat 14.81g
Carbs 4.35g

Panama berry
Protein 2.1g
Fat 2.3g
Carbs 17.9g

Fruits not high in fat

Shea Fruit Pulp *dry*
Protein 2.6-7g
Fat 0.7-1.7g
Carbs 29-46g

Capuacu pulp
Protein 1g
Fat - 1g
Carbs - 9g

Nance
Protein 0.66g
Fat 1.16g
Carbs 16.97g

Plantain
Protein 1.3g
Fat 0.4
Carbs 32g

Sunsapote
Protein 0.29
Fat 0.49
Carbs ?

Disclaimer - Everything was just quickly googled and not checked, all data is from random websites.. I’m sure a lot of this would be incorrect or inaccurate


Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on March 05, 2019, 05:12:19 PM
Great summary. Very informative. Thanks for posting all the data. BTW, coyo or chucte (Persea schiedeana) has much higher oil (fat) content than avocado. Coyo is about 26% oil as i recall. Don't have data right now, but will try to post later.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Acacia on March 08, 2019, 08:08:42 PM
Coyo and Anay look like good avocado substitutes to broaden the diet!
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: fruitlovers on March 09, 2019, 01:14:48 AM
Coyo and Anay look like good avocado substitutes to broaden the diet!
Is anyone growing Beilschmiedia anay and have seed available?
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 10, 2019, 12:20:36 PM
i have fruited Tucum, and i believe there is no way possible the fat content is in the pulp.

it must be in the seed embryo, the proper way to enjoy them is to let them get full sized and green, then you can split them open and eat the inside of the seed, which is similar in texture/taste to coconut.

I guess there's some shit you just can't find in a book...it's up to some asshole like me to figure it out, and then post it here.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Acacia on March 10, 2019, 06:02:13 PM
i have fruited Tucum, and i believe there is no way possible the fat content is in the pulp.

it must be in the seed embryo, the proper way to enjoy them is to let them get full sized and green, then you can split them open and eat the inside of the seed, which is similar in texture/taste to coconut.

I guess there's some shit you just can't find in a book...it's up to some asshole like me to figure it out, and then post it here.

Maybe inside the seed is the higher fat content. A study says the pulp has a similar fat, protein and carb content to human milk putting it at 3-5% fat.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Acacia on March 10, 2019, 06:13:49 PM
gustavia macarenensis, engkala, avocado, durian, olive, dabai, ackee, safou, aguaje, dacryodes rostrata, pangium edule, I think this is all I have for now. Recently searching for fatty fruits also because pleasure found in ackee, durian, gustavia, avocado etc.

Let the hunt continue!

Gustavia macarenensis another fatty fruit!

"The fruit (G. macarenensis) is of medium size
and the collected samples had an average weight
of 258 g. The rind is tough and thick and is lilac to
brownish in color mixed with some green shades.
When ripe, the fruit is easily split and usually contains four to six seeds embedded in a yellowish
edible pulp which is soft and sweet with an exquisite odor much liked by the local people of the
Ecuadorian Amazonian basin.
The proximate analysis of the fruit pulp and
the physical-chemical properties of the oil extracted
from the mesocarp of G. macarenensis are summarized in Table 2.
As can observed in Table 2, the G. macarenensis
fruit mesocarp contains a high value for total lipids (53.57%), which is uncommon for fruit pulp,
as it usually contains very low levels of lipid material (0.1 to 1.0%). A few notable exceptions are
avocado, palm fruit and olives, which range from
6.5–25.5%, 8–74% and 35–70%, respectively (Kamel
and Kakuda, 2007). These are recognized as being
sources of natural oils and as having several applications."

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/R_Naranjo/publication/330967394_Chemical_characterization_fatty_acid_profile_and_antioxidant_activity_of_Gustavia_macarenensis_fruit_mesocarp_and_its_oil_from_the_Amazonian_region_of_Ecuador_as_an_unconventional_source_of_vegetable_/links/5c5d87d8a6fdccb608afc7a7/Chemical-characterization-fatty-acid-profile-and-antioxidant-activity-of-Gustavia-macarenensis-fruit-mesocarp-and-its-oil-from-the-Amazonian-region-of-Ecuador-as-an-unconventional-source-of-vegetable.pdf?origin=publication_detail (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/R_Naranjo/publication/330967394_Chemical_characterization_fatty_acid_profile_and_antioxidant_activity_of_Gustavia_macarenensis_fruit_mesocarp_and_its_oil_from_the_Amazonian_region_of_Ecuador_as_an_unconventional_source_of_vegetable_/links/5c5d87d8a6fdccb608afc7a7/Chemical-characterization-fatty-acid-profile-and-antioxidant-activity-of-Gustavia-macarenensis-fruit-mesocarp-and-its-oil-from-the-Amazonian-region-of-Ecuador-as-an-unconventional-source-of-vegetable.pdf?origin=publication_detail)
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Acacia on March 10, 2019, 06:36:13 PM
Grias Peruviana (Sachamangua) is related to Gustavia and Brazil nuts.

"The mesocarp of the large single-seeded fruit is eaten raw. Soaking it in water softens the mesocarp to an agreeable texture. It is sold as a snack on the streets of Iquitos. The fruit can also be roasted, which softens the mesocarp into a butter-like texture."
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 10, 2019, 07:17:25 PM
i have fruited Tucum, and i believe there is no way possible the fat content is in the pulp.

it must be in the seed embryo, the proper way to enjoy them is to let them get full sized and green, then you can split them open and eat the inside of the seed, which is similar in texture/taste to coconut.

I guess there's some shit you just can't find in a book...it's up to some asshole like me to figure it out, and then post it here.

Maybe inside the seed is the higher fat content. A study says the pulp has a similar fat, protein and carb content to human milk putting it at 3-5% fat.

i tasted the pulp, it was all water and carbs, no oil
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Guanabanus on March 10, 2019, 07:42:06 PM
"Better-Than-Butter-Fruits":  two species:  Poraqueiba paraensis, Yellow Umari' , from the lower Amazon region, State of Para'.  And Poraqueiba sericea, Black Mari', from the central Amazon region, the State of Amazonas.  Both are delicious, eaten out of hand, or scraped and spread on cassava flatbread or on French bread or crackers.  The skin is soft and edible, and the 1/4-inch or less of yellow pulp is creamy and very oily.  The underpulp is usually not eaten, but it is edible--- chewy and somewhat fibrous, and a little bitter.  Below that is the very hard seedcoat.
Title: Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
Post by: Guanabanus on March 10, 2019, 07:56:02 PM
The Pequi', Caryocar brasiliensis, is a bushy small tree in the Cerrado scrublands of central Brazil.  Canned Pequi' meats are available in some ethnic supermarkets in southern Florida.
The Pequia', Caryocar villosum, is a huge hardwood tree in the Amazonian rainforest, where each fruiting tree was a guarded, prized possession of any tribal clan.  Unfortunately, others have valued the trees as lumber.

Both fruits are eaten cooked--- nowadays, usually boiled.  The deep yellow-orange pulp has a powerful, distinctive,  nutty flavor, with lots of orange oil.  It is often boiled in rice, to provide flavor and oil and bright color.