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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #125 on: October 16, 2013, 11:35:32 PM »
I believe in spanish all the cherimoyas, including Annona cherimola,  are called chirimoya.
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #126 on: October 16, 2013, 11:40:42 PM »
En Cuba es Chirimoya.

J, they can call it whatever they want. In fact, that is their Dream Cherimoya. Looks nice. If it is anything like the ones I have tasted in Fallbrook, it is a nice tasting fruit.

In Cuba they call all the reticulatas: cherimoya. I think the ilama is also called cherimoya in some places. So that name is applied to different species in different countries. Maybe Wayne should call it a Wayneamoya?  ;)

El Americo este no es cubano nosotro si, so he know the difference.

Wayne, these are Cherimoyas.....enough of this misleading stuff.




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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #127 on: October 17, 2013, 10:09:53 AM »
En Cuba es Chirimoya.

J, they can call it whatever they want. In fact, that is their Dream Cherimoya. Looks nice. If it is anything like the ones I have tasted in Fallbrook, it is a nice tasting fruit.

In Cuba they call all the reticulatas: cherimoya. I think the ilama is also called cherimoya in some places. So that name is applied to different species in different countries. Maybe Wayne should call it a Wayneamoya?  ;)

El Americo este no es cubano nosotro si, so he know the difference.

Wayne, these are Cherimoyas.....enough of this misleading stuff.




Okay, I'm convinced.  It's "Dream annona" for me.  The photographs tell the truth, and Dream is not really a cherimoya.  I knew it was too good to be true, but still it could be one hell of a good-tasting fruit.  We'll see.  I spent my 50 bucks on it (plus gas money), and I'm not sorry (at this point) that I did. :)
« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 11:45:54 AM by johnb51 »
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #128 on: October 17, 2013, 11:37:42 AM »
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #129 on: October 17, 2013, 11:49:02 AM »
I'm on the list too and will be very happy to get mine no matter what it is.

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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #130 on: October 17, 2013, 12:18:55 PM »
the look of the dream fruits remind me of papaya tree nursery's "sweetie" (they call it a sugar apple hybrid..but on this thread we know it's an atemoya)

I wonder if anyone here is growing or has tasted sweetie.

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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #131 on: October 17, 2013, 01:13:42 PM »
What is that golden sugar apple they have? never seen that before :o
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #132 on: October 17, 2013, 02:20:51 PM »
What is that golden sugar apple they have? never seen that before :o

I believe that is this


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« Reply #133 on: October 17, 2013, 03:31:20 PM »
that looks nothing like the one in the picture
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #134 on: October 17, 2013, 05:09:34 PM »
the look of the dream fruits remind me of papaya tree nursery's "sweetie" (they call it a sugar apple hybrid..but on this thread we know it's an atemoya)

I wonder if anyone here is growing or has tasted sweetie.

http://www.papayatreenursery.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2021

They won't be available until around June 2014. I'm waiting on Alex's reply on possible pre-ordering.
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #135 on: October 17, 2013, 05:57:48 PM »
thanks for the info!

im interested in this one, but I wonder how much it will cost?

$89 for a 3 gal

I remember papaya tree nursery had jewelry prices.

 
the look of the dream fruits remind me of papaya tree nursery's "sweetie" (they call it a sugar apple hybrid..but on this thread we know it's an atemoya)

I wonder if anyone here is growing or has tasted sweetie.

http://www.papayatreenursery.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2021

They won't be available until around June 2014. I'm waiting on Alex's reply on possible pre-ordering.
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #136 on: October 17, 2013, 06:57:13 PM »
Does anyone remember an older post on gardenweb forum by (Felipe/Philippe?) showing several different types of atemoyas?  One of which was a really big & beautiful golden yellow atemoya that sort of looks like a massive sugar apple?
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #137 on: October 17, 2013, 07:13:53 PM »
Does anyone remember an older post on gardenweb forum by (Felipe/Philippe?) showing several different types of atemoyas?  One of which was a really big & beautiful golden yellow atemoya that sort of looks like a massive sugar apple?

The only one I saw that came real close to this golden hybrid of Papaya Tree is the Paxton Prolific posted by BMc a while back on this forum.
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« Reply #138 on: October 17, 2013, 07:28:12 PM »
No I remember the one Bruce posted.. But this thread goes way back to prehistoric gardenweb... Before TFF was a twinkle in Murahilin & PJ's eyes in their lonely elevator ride together
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #139 on: November 09, 2013, 08:44:53 PM »
I am up in Jacksonville and I'm looking to get some of these Dream Cherimoyas. I'm familiar with the ones in South America, they grow like weeds in Chile. Delicious, wonderful weeds.
Anyhow, how do I get in contact with Mr. Clifton to get some of these plants?

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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #140 on: December 16, 2013, 12:07:38 PM »
had a few small dreams that were ripe today.

I will report back if the fruit was good enough to eat...they're rather small (probably because the tree is still small, it was exposed to cold temps, and it's in a pot)

it's definitely got some squamosa (just like I suspected all along)...but I'm still very excited to have a new atemoya. 

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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #141 on: December 16, 2013, 06:22:59 PM »
Adao, I can't wait to read your review..

This what my 'Dream Annona' looks like  ;)







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« Reply #142 on: December 27, 2013, 10:53:22 AM »
had a few small dreams that were ripe today.

I will report back if the fruit was good enough to eat...they're rather small (probably because the tree is still small, it was exposed to cold temps, and it's in a pot)

it's definitely got some squamosa (just like I suspected all along)...but I'm still very excited to have a new atemoya. 

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So did you try it?

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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #143 on: December 27, 2013, 12:49:27 PM »
Mike,

Yes, I ate them, but I think they came off the tree too early...they didn't ripen well...and they were small.

I'm still eager to try a full sized fruit like the one in the picture (I posted from Wayne).

had a few small dreams that were ripe today.

I will report back if the fruit was good enough to eat...they're rather small (probably because the tree is still small, it was exposed to cold temps, and it's in a pot)

it's definitely got some squamosa (just like I suspected all along)...but I'm still very excited to have a new atemoya. 

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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #144 on: January 21, 2014, 10:16:46 AM »
The Dream (atemoya), looks like its very cold tolerant.  I left one of my trees exposed to the short freeze we had, and it didn't even burn a leaf!

The 4826 is totally defoliated...and the gefner, and Phet packchong have almost lost all  of their leaves.
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #145 on: January 21, 2014, 01:18:35 PM »
The Dream (atemoya), looks like its very cold tolerant.  I left one of my trees exposed to the short freeze we had, and it didn't even burn a leaf!

The 4826 is totally defoliated...and the gefner, and Phet packchong have almost lost all  of their leaves.

Lisa has never defoliated and we bottom out at 35F last year in fact atemoyas are just as cold tolerant as chirimoya. Here is a pic of my last Lisa #103 after a long season....from early October.





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« Reply #146 on: January 21, 2014, 03:28:38 PM »
I guess we got colder here...it was about 32 F...the lisa's defoliated soon after.

Wow u got 103 Lisa fruits off one tree? (did u hand pollinate?)
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #147 on: January 21, 2014, 03:43:18 PM »
I guess we got colder here...it was about 32 F...the lisa's defoliated soon after.

Wow u got 103 Lisa fruits off one tree? (did u hand pollinate?)

Yes I did the entire month of July and I thin it and the tree self thin over 150 golf ball size fruits. Lisa is a monster producer but the best fruits, taste wise, is in the fall. You have seen pics of my three year old tree it's 8-9 feet. I will Prune it hard in a month and keep it around that size.


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« Reply #148 on: January 21, 2014, 03:58:39 PM »
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you always have the most impressive annonas.  I know you give them great cultural attention, but I also think your climate is top notch.
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Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #149 on: January 21, 2014, 04:03:03 PM »
The Dream (atemoya), looks like its very cold tolerant.  I left one of my trees exposed to the short freeze we had, and it didn't even burn a leaf!

The 4826 is totally defoliated...and the gefner, and Phet packchong have almost lost all  of their leaves.

Lisa has never defoliated and we bottom out at 35F last year in fact atemoyas are just as cold tolerant as chirimoya. Here is a pic of my last Lisa #103 after a long season....from early October.




Really? I don't know why we only have cherimoyas here... i never eat na atemoya or a annona muricata