Dream Atemoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton

[gunnar429]

just added my name to the waiting list!   

not concerned with what it's called, just that it produces great fruit!

Adam, thanks for the recommendation, and for the contact info.

[gunnar429]

are atemoyas compatible on pond apple rootstock?  I heard they were not, but have no experience.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

are atemoyas compatible on pond apple rootstock?  I heard they were not, but have no experience.

although the grafts might take, I dont think they make a good long term match.
i think u r better off using reticulata, squamosa, or cherimola (or atemoya) as rootstock.

[davidgarcia899]

http://rfcarchives.org.au/Next/Fruits/CustardApple/AnnonaGrafting111-2-99.htm

According to this, its not compatible, you have to interstock A. reticulata.


Its a shame, cause if you could easily graft onto glabra, it would make a great rootstock for lots of marginal land in Florida

[gunnar429]

not trying to restart this debate but I emailed wayne the other day he said the tree at his house is on pond apple, and thriving for years! 

[davidgarcia899]

Its been discussed other places, but Har has mention that the source of the seeds seems to affect pond apple compatibility

[FlyingFoxFruits]

not trying to restart this debate but I emailed wayne the other day he said the tree at his house is on pond apple, and thriving for years!

he told me it was on atemoya...maybe he has 2 trees?

[gunnar429]

haha....he seemed pretty adamant.  Said he gave it to a USDA botanist or something like that and said tell me about this atemoya....reply:  this is no atemoya, this is a cherimoya.. I don't care, but i assumed like you adam that he knew it was an atemoya...regardless, looking forward to tasting it someday

[FlyingFoxFruits]

haha....he seemed pretty adamant.  Said he gave it to a USDA botanist or something like that and said tell me about this atemoya....reply:  this is no atemoya, this is a cherimoya.. I don't care, but i assumed like you adam that he knew it was an atemoya...regardless, looking forward to tasting it someday

I know he says it's a cherimoya, but my last post was stating that the mother tree is grafted on atemoya...not pond apple...maybe he has 2 trees?

I think my last post confused u...it Looks like I said "an atemoya", but says "on atemoya"...I should have said, "on atemoya rootstock"

[gunnar429]

ah, gotcha. 

[bradflorida]

Anyone tasted the "dream cherimoya"?  If so, does the taste resemble a cherimoya or atemoya?

Brad

[gunnar429]

wayne claims it is better than any atemoya by far, in terms of taste, but he is selling them so who knows....

[FlyingFoxFruits]

wayne claims it is better than any atemoya by far, in terms of taste, but he is selling them so who knows....

it's not just him...I've spoken with several fruit collectors who have eaten plenty of annona fruits...they claim it's one of the best!

I've not tasted this one yet...(ate a runt off of my 7gal tree, it didn't ripen properly because of cold weather and being rootbound)...im eager to try this one...this year I'm going to make sure they get cared for properly.

[phantomcrab]

I know he says it's a cherimoya, but my last post was stating that the mother tree is grafted on atemoya...not pond apple...maybe he has 2 trees?

Yes, he has two large "Dream" trees in his yard.

Anyone tasted the "dream cherimoya"?  If so, does the taste resemble a cherimoya or atemoya?

Apparently it tastes like a cherimoya.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

are atemoyas compatible on pond apple rootstock?  I heard they were not, but have no experience.

here is a list of trial results, of annona grafts...it was published in a RFCI year book..I think from 1984

[adiel]

It will be interesting to see how the actual fruit turns out since, some pictures show a cherimoya fruit (page 2 of this thread) but some more pictures show an atemoya/sugar apple (page 4 of this thread).  Since it was just mentioned that there are two trees in his house, would it be possible that the fruit from one tree are different from the fruit in the other tree?      And to cause even more confusion, could it be possible that one is an atemoya and the other is a cherimoya? 

[FlyingFoxFruits]

It will be interesting to see how the actual fruit turns out since, some pictures show a cherimoya fruit (page 2 of this thread) but some more pictures show an atemoya/sugar apple (page 4 of this thread).  Since it was just mentioned that there are two trees in his house, would it be possible that the fruit from one tree are different from the fruit in the other tree?      And to cause even more confusion, could it be possible that one is an atemoya and the other is a cherimoya? 

the fruits are just variable in appearance...there is only one dream variety...I think it's an atemoya...all of the pictures on this thread are from the same variety of annona.

[phantomcrab]

It will be interesting to see how the actual fruit turns out since, some pictures show a cherimoya fruit (page 2 of this thread) but some more pictures show an atemoya/sugar apple (page 4 of this thread).  Since it was just mentioned that there are two trees in his house, would it be possible that the fruit from one tree are different from the fruit in the other tree?      And to cause even more confusion, could it be possible that one is an atemoya and the other is a cherimoya? 

Not a chance. The second tree is a graft from the original.
I agree with Adam - the fruit can be variable in appearance. Wayne mentioned this to me once. If the fruit are heavily thinned, they get large and look more like a cherimoya than my pictures depict (which were immature fruit anyway).

[FlyingFoxFruits]

hello to all who have contacted Wayne to be on his waiting list for the Dream (I call it atemoya, others call it cherimoya)

recently Wayne had his computer crash, and lost the list he had created....so please contact him on his new email address  katway@outlook.com....and he will begin the process of reassembling the list.

I think he has some ready to sell soon!

(personally I have not been grafting these, but I will probably make a small batch soon....I just have too much stuff to propagate, and not enough time!)

[FlyingFoxFruits]

so far the dream has been very impressive..as far as setting fruits, and growing vigorously. (tough as nails, one of the only annonas that has no noticeable leaf burn from intense heat and drought.

the fruits are small I suppose because the trees were severely rootbound in 7 gal pots, just recently put them in 15 gals....trying to keep them in pots for a long time, and small....hopefully some of the fruits get a bit larger, I have some still developing...the tree set about 8 fruits, all filled out very nicely.

I will be sure to give a report of what the taste is like...and post pics of cut fruit.

starting to blush almost ready!

more fruit on the way

 

[nullzero]

Adam,

Nice looking Dream, the Dream I have in the ground appears to be very healthy. I can't wait to try the fruits  .

[Felipe]

Very nice! Keep us updated amigo

[cmichael258]

so far the dream has been very impressive..as far as setting fruits, and growing vigorously. (tough as nails, one of the only annonas that has no noticeable leaf burn from intense heat and drought.

the fruits are small I suppose because the trees were severely rootbound in 7 gal pots, just recently put them in 15 gals....trying to keep them in pots for a long time, and small....hopefully some of the fruits get a bit larger, I have some still developing...the tree set about 8 fruits, all filled out very nicely.

I will be sure to give a report of what the taste is like...and post pics of cut fruit.

starting to blush almost ready!

more fruit on the way

Adam

How old are your Dreams?

I'm heading down to Wayne's place tomorrow as he has some 3 and 7 Gal plants available. I'm looking
forward to meeting him and he said he will show me the mother tree (I'll take my camera for some photos).

[FlyingFoxFruits]

cmichael258,

i'm guessing the trees are about 3yrs old since grafting!

let me know how your trip goes!

good luck!

[cmichael258]

cmichael258,

i'm guessing the trees are about 3yrs old since grafting!

let me know how your trip goes!

good luck!

Thanks

Will do.