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Title: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on May 02, 2017, 05:08:58 PM
About 2 weeks ago, I ordered some Kauai White Sugarloaf pineapples from this site https://kauaisugarloaf.com (https://kauaisugarloaf.com)

It was extremely easy to use the site and the best thing is that they can actually ship the fruit to your door. Jude seems to be a very friendly person from her videos and appears to have a passion for growing these fruit.

From what I've been able to gather on the internet, the pineapples are sweetest when they are grown in the heat so these early pineapples can probably get much sweeter if harvested later in the year.

The pineapples are quite expensive but for us fruit snobs, I'm sure there will be more than a few of us out here that feel it is worth the price. I think about it this way, by ordering the fruit, I can sample for myself how good or bad the quality is before I spend 2-3 years attempting to grow the fruit.

Also, for those of us growing the White Jade Pineapple, I think it was Fang, mentioned that the White Jade is a White Sugarloaf that was selected for not having sharp spines. By ordering this fruit, I'm basically able to sample the White Jade without having to wait 2-3 years.

I have not cut into the fruit yet, I'm going to try to wait until my wife and kids get home, but I'll definitely post some pictures, give a taste report and a Brix reading.

Here's a video of the farm and pineapples in the field
! No longer available (http://youtube.com/watch?v=apMpDjCwfZM#)

Here are some pictures of the fruit. I believe they intentionally ship the fruit upside down so that the bottom of the fruit does not get damaged. The top leafy portion got a bit squashed but they are still perfectly fine as planting material.

(https://s8.postimg.cc/mazm7yaoh/IMG_2066.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mazm7yaoh/)

(https://s8.postimg.cc/4z3v096kx/IMG_2067.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4z3v096kx/)

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Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on May 02, 2017, 05:36:58 PM
Damn you, Simon... lol
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 02, 2017, 05:46:27 PM
Hey that's where i got my Kauai white sugarloaf pineapples from.... yeah you are right jude is a great person she was even nice enough to send with my pineapples some suckers and slips cause she told me over emails that alot of times they have to break the crowns to fit them in the box... but anyways hope you enjoy them i know i sure did when i first got them i  ordered 6 of them :) yeah your right its not cheap but well worth the cost

Photo of Mine that i got

(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah114/EvilDeadGuy/kauai_zps0kasvwhh.jpg)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: FrankDrebinOfFruits on May 02, 2017, 05:57:56 PM
At the local market they sell the pineapple as a frozen treat. They freeze them and put them through a processor.  Stuff is pretty dang good.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on May 02, 2017, 10:23:12 PM
Glad you're able to try the sugarloaf Simon. But that fruit looks really under ripe (green). When well ripened the fruits turn almost orange on the exterior.
BTW, i don't think there is a Kauai sugarloaf, a Kona sugraloaf, etc. Every place that grows them seems to add their location name, But they are all really the same (i think).
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 02, 2017, 11:13:20 PM
the thing is about White pineapple like SugarLoaf its best to pick them when its still green and the eyes have yellow dots in the center of the eyes. if you let a sugarloaf fully ripen on the plant turning orange its most likely its turned bad that's why growers don't sale them would wide anymore cause they don't ship well cause they seem  to rot more easy if you grow a sugarloaf and let it fully ripen on the plant most times when you do cut into it you will notice black spots inside the white flesh is a sign of the pineapple starting to rot.... yellow pineapples can let ripen on the plant they dont go bad as easy
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on May 02, 2017, 11:28:21 PM
the thing is about White pineapple like SugarLoaf its best to pick them when its still green and the eyes have yellow dots in the center of the eyes. if you let a sugarloaf fully ripen on the plant turning orange its most likely its turned bad that's why growers don't sale them would wide anymore cause they don't ship well cause they seem  to rot more easy if you grow a sugarloaf and let it fully ripen on the plant most times when you do cut into it you will notice black spots inside the white flesh is a sign of the pineapple starting to rot.... yellow pineapples can let ripen on the plant they dont go bad as easy

A little punctuation would make your post easier to read. 

Of course they are picked at a greener stage for shipping, what choice do they have?  This is true for most fruit being shipped as most would not survive shipping at peak ripeness. 

I dont think any pineapple is at its best picked underripe for optimal eating (or really any fruit for that matter).  The only option is to grow it yourself.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on May 02, 2017, 11:33:45 PM
Just so you guys/gals know, everyone that's replied is probably a Pineapple snob, lol.

Rob, better order yours quick, there is a 2-3 week backlog on their fruit.

Evil dead guy, the fruit was amazing and I'll definitely order more. If you order three fruit, you can save on shipping and it comes out to $37.50/pineapple and that includes shipping.

Frankdrebinoffruits, I saw a YouTube video of that frozen White Sugarloaf put through an omega slow auger juicer with a blank plate to make a sort of sorbet out of nothing except pure frozen pineapples. I'll try that with my next order or when my plants fruit.

Oscar, thanks for recommending this variety! It was amazing. I believe you are correct with the naming because I'm now growing San Diego White Sugarloaf, lol!

In the video I posted above, Jude shows how she selects for a properly ripened fruit but I'm wondering if she's purposely selecting fruit with lots of green but with yellow eyes all the way up to the top in order to allow the fruit to have some acid to balance the high sugars?

In another video, Bill Merril shows off his White Pineapples but he lets his get completely yellow. I bet they will be even sweeter if allowed to get that yellow but they probably won't be shipable.

Taste report to follow.

Simkn





Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on May 02, 2017, 11:39:51 PM
Whoops, here's Bills video
! No longer available (http://youtube.com/watch?v=evxtkLAAzTE#)

Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on May 02, 2017, 11:56:38 PM
Okay, here's the taste report. Basically, it's the best pineapple I've ever had. As you can see in the pictures I posted, the fruit is mostly green with yellow eyes as Jude explains in the video. I'm sure it will get much sweeter if allowed to turn yellow but any handling will probably cause bruising to the point of non edibility.

The fruit didn't have much smell to it and the instructions said it is ready to eat so I cut it open to reveal the beautiful white flesh. I took a piece of fruit from the top of the pineapple and the first thing that I noticed was the acidity because I wasn't expecting any. The acidity was less than your typical yellow pineapple but it was still noticeable. After the acidity, I noticed the sweetness and and the most delicious creamy vanilla like flavor. The vanilla note is very subtle but gave this pineapple an amazing luscious creamy flavor.

I hear a lot about the edible core of this variety so I cut a piece of the core to sample and OMG, it was amazing and very sweet with almost no acidity. I think I may like the core even more than the fruit!

I took several Brix readings and they were all over the place depending on where I sampled. The lowest Brix was 16% at the top outside of the fruit. Half way up the fruit at the core, the Brix was 18%. The bottom of the fruit had a Brix of just over 19%. 

Here are some pictures
(https://s11.postimg.cc/aiuxm9s5b/IMG_2089.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/aiuxm9s5b/)

(https://s11.postimg.cc/m98v3nkxr/IMG_2090.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m98v3nkxr/)

(https://s11.postimg.cc/e50qywyin/IMG_2091.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e50qywyin/)
Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on May 03, 2017, 12:13:35 AM
If you look closely at the bottom most picture with the fruit cut open, you can see a small yellowish white bruised area. This fruit was picked mostly green and it still got this little bit of bruising so I'm really starting to guess that these fruit are purposely picked slightly early in order to avoid the fruit bruising and rotting.

This is actually good news for us fruit growers because that means we can get even sweeter fruit from our own home grown White Pineapple plants. If these fruit tastes this good when mostly green, I can only imagine how good it will taste if picked fully yellow like the ones in Bills video.

For anyone that orders these fruit, don't throw away your tops. Twist them off, let them dry a couple days then peel off some of the bottom leaves and stick in acidic soil. You should get a fruit in 2-4 years depending on your climate and growing conditions.
(https://s18.postimg.cc/7jhna9h8l/IMG_2085.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7jhna9h8l/)

(https://s18.postimg.cc/huu02x8xx/IMG_2088.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/huu02x8xx/)
Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on May 03, 2017, 01:51:17 AM
the thing is about White pineapple like SugarLoaf its best to pick them when its still green and the eyes have yellow dots in the center of the eyes. if you let a sugarloaf fully ripen on the plant turning orange its most likely its turned bad that's why growers don't sale them would wide anymore cause they don't ship well cause they seem  to rot more easy if you grow a sugarloaf and let it fully ripen on the plant most times when you do cut into it you will notice black spots inside the white flesh is a sign of the pineapple starting to rot.... yellow pineapples can let ripen on the plant they dont go bad as easy
I pick mine all ripe, and never had any black spots. Actually biggest problem in letting them get very ripe is that the rats like them too!
Yes ofcourse they ship better green, but don't taste very good green, that was my point.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 03, 2017, 09:59:26 AM
Just so you guys/gals know, everyone that's replied is probably a Pineapple snob, lol.

Rob, better order yours quick, there is a 2-3 week backlog on their fruit.

Evil dead guy, the fruit was amazing and I'll definitely order more. If you order three fruit, you can save on shipping and it comes out to $37.50/pineapple and that includes shipping.

Frankdrebinoffruits, I saw a YouTube video of that frozen White Sugarloaf put through an omega slow auger juicer with a blank plate to make a sort of sorbet out of nothing except pure frozen pineapples. I'll try that with my next order or when my plants fruit.

Oscar, thanks for recommending this variety! It was amazing. I believe you are correct with the naming because I'm now growing San Diego White Sugarloaf, lol!

In the video I posted above, Jude shows how she selects for a properly ripened fruit but I'm wondering if she's purposely selecting fruit with lots of green but with yellow eyes all the way up to the top in order to allow the fruit to have some acid to balance the high sugars?

In another video, Bill Merril shows off his White Pineapples but he lets his get completely yellow. I bet they will be even sweeter if allowed to get that yellow but they probably won't be shipable.

Taste report to follow.

Simkn

Thanks i will keep that in mind if i ever plan to order more i will get 3 next time... but probably won't need to now that i'm growing my own..

I'm Glad you Enjoyed them to and hope your crowns turn into some great plants over time :)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on May 06, 2017, 10:54:26 PM
I opened up my second white Sugarloaf, this pineapple is super delicious.

(https://s28.postimg.cc/rypvrzdbd/IMG_2119.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rypvrzdbd/)

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Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on May 07, 2017, 02:02:29 AM
Did you try eating the core? Even the core is soft and edible on this cultivar.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on May 07, 2017, 08:32:22 AM
Yes, the core is soft and super delicious. The core tastes sweeter and has less acidity than the flesh. I'm going to fill in all the gaps in my garden with white Pineapples now.

I think Pineapples seem so mundane that people don't consider them a top tier fruit but tasting the White Sugarloaf has definitely changed my mind. The plants are aesthetically appealing, especially when in bloom and the plants holding fruit are a great conversation piece in the garden which lasts upwards of 6 months. The ripe fruit acts as an indoor air freshener and gives the grower free aromatherapy before the fruit is harvested for its amazingly sweet and well balanced exotic tropical flavor and the fruit has enzymes that help break down proteins. What's not to like about Pineapples besides the thorns?

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 07, 2017, 03:45:44 PM
the tops and slips and suckers i received when i ordered mine are doing great so far i can't wait to see how they turn out i will
take a photo of them sometime soon and post it on here

Out of all the Varieties i grow i plan to keep growing Kauai Sugarloaf pineapple
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on May 07, 2017, 04:35:13 PM
Yes, the core is soft and super delicious. The core tastes sweeter and has less acidity than the flesh. I'm going to fill in all the gaps in my garden with white Pineapples now.

I think Pineapples seem so mundane that people don't consider them a top tier fruit but tasting the White Sugarloaf has definitely changed my mind. The plants are aesthetically appealing, especially when in bloom and the plants holding fruit are a great conversation piece in the garden which lasts upwards of 6 months. The ripe fruit acts as an indoor air freshener and gives the grower free aromatherapy before the fruit is harvested for its amazingly sweet and well balanced exotic tropical flavor and the fruit has enzymes that help break down proteins. What's not to like about Pineapples besides the thorns?

Simon
I don't think it's because pineapples are mundane that they are not generally considered a top tier fruit. It has a lot more to do with the cultivars that people have been mostly exposed to...which are not very good eating quality. The Cayenne types are very good for canning, due to high acid, and most pineapple companies exclusively grew them as a vast majority of the pineapples grown are used for canning, not for sale as fresh pineapples.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on May 07, 2017, 06:36:36 PM
Good point Oscar, I hope more people can taste this delicious White Sugarloaf. My family is hooked.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: ben mango on May 07, 2017, 07:09:36 PM
now you have to try frankie's 'honey cream' white pineapple
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on May 07, 2017, 07:14:22 PM
Good point Oscar, I hope more people can taste this delicious White Sugarloaf. My family is hooked.

Simon
Everyone should come here and taste them. We need more tourist dollars.  ;D  But the facts are that Big Island has probably 10x++ more production of this pineapple than tiny little Kauai island. And this is true of all agricultural products. 90% of ag is here on Big Island.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 07, 2017, 07:17:28 PM
now you have to try frankie's 'honey cream' white pineapple

I have tried to get them before but the guy that grows them in Hawaii... says he don't ship them anymore
that you can only buy them in Hawaii... And even if someone could get them you wont be able to grow them
cause he doesn't leave the crowns on the pineapple
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on May 07, 2017, 07:24:09 PM
now you have to try frankie's 'honey cream' white pineapple

I have tried to get them before but the guy that grows them in Hawaii... says he don't ship them anymore
that you can only buy them in Hawaii... And even if someone could get them you wont be able to grow them
cause he doesn't leave the crowns on the pineapple
There are several growers, and plenty of propagative material. You wouldn't want to use crowns, but sideshoots, for faster production. Truth is almost everyone here is just too lazy to do it. Too many nice waves, Easier to go surfing.  8)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 07, 2017, 07:31:13 PM
now you have to try frankie's 'honey cream' white pineapple

I have tried to get them before but the guy that grows them in Hawaii... says he don't ship them anymore
that you can only buy them in Hawaii... And even if someone could get them you wont be able to grow them
cause he doesn't leave the crowns on the pineapple
There are several growers, and plenty of propagative material. You wouldn't want to use crowns, but sideshoots, for faster production. Truth is almost everyone here is just too lazy to do it. Too many nice waves, Easier to go surfing.  8)

this is what frankies says about the pineapple they grow

We also have the crown cut off when we sell it since it's patented & we don't want anyone to propagate it.
http://i-pineapple-a.blogspot.com/2013/09/hawaii-meli-kalima-honey-cream-pineapple.html (http://i-pineapple-a.blogspot.com/2013/09/hawaii-meli-kalima-honey-cream-pineapple.html)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on May 07, 2017, 07:41:45 PM
now you have to try frankie's 'honey cream' white pineapple

I have tried to get them before but the guy that grows them in Hawaii... says he don't ship them anymore
that you can only buy them in Hawaii... And even if someone could get them you wont be able to grow them
cause he doesn't leave the crowns on the pineapple
There are several growers, and plenty of propagative material. You wouldn't want to use crowns, but sideshoots, for faster production. Truth is almost everyone here is just too lazy to do it. Too many nice waves, Easier to go surfing.  8)

this is what frankies says about the pineapple they grow

We also have the crown cut off when we sell it since it's patented & we don't want anyone to propagate it.
http://i-pineapple-a.blogspot.com/2013/09/hawaii-meli-kalima-honey-cream-pineapple.html (http://i-pineapple-a.blogspot.com/2013/09/hawaii-meli-kalima-honey-cream-pineapple.html)
That is not a sugarloaf, and Frankies is not on island of Hawaii (aka Big Island), he is on Oahu,a different island. The sugarloaf was being grown by several growers when i came here almost 30 years ago, so there are plenty around. I met the guy who originally introduced them here. He told me it was a Mexican type of pineapple he snuck in and renamed sugarloaf. I don't know the name of the original Mexican variety.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 07, 2017, 07:44:55 PM
yes i understand that... but i'm talking about what ben mango posted about Honey cream pineapple not talking about sugarloaf pineapple... sugarloaf is very easy to get now days
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on May 07, 2017, 07:50:25 PM
yes i understand that... but i'm talking about what ben mango posted about Honey cream pineapple not talking about sugarloaf pineapple... sugarloaf is very easy to get now days

OK. I haven't tried Frankies selection Honey Cream, but i bet it's very good. He has a good eye usually in the material he selects.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 07, 2017, 07:52:45 PM
yes i understand that... but i'm talking about what ben mango posted about Honey cream pineapple not talking about sugarloaf pineapple... sugarloaf is very easy to get now days

OK. I haven't tried Frankies selection Honey Cream, but i bet it's very good. He has a good eye usually in the material he selects.

when they tested the Honey Cream here is the results

The brix in summer can go up to 28 while in winter, it's about 21.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on May 07, 2017, 07:58:54 PM
yes i understand that... but i'm talking about what ben mango posted about Honey cream pineapple not talking about sugarloaf pineapple... sugarloaf is very easy to get now days

OK. I haven't tried Frankies selection Honey Cream, but i bet it's very good. He has a good eye usually in the material he selects.
when they tested the Honey Cream here is the results

The brix in summer can go up to 28 while in winter, it's about 21.

I saw that. Honey cream seems very high in brix. But really taste depends also on acid content ratio, not just brix. If it's a sugarloaf selection then it will also be very low acid and very sweet.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on May 07, 2017, 08:09:06 PM
The Honey Cream is also known as Meli Kalima, I gave a description of it on the sweetest pineapple thread. It's a patented variety and Frankie gave the names of the parent varieties. I was originally going to try my hand at breeding something similar to the Meli Kalima but I don't have the space nor expertise to breed anything worthwhile.

I'm happy enough with the White Sugarloaf.
Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: xshen on May 23, 2017, 08:16:30 PM
I just received a shipment of pineapples from jude. How long can they last? Can I keep it in the refrigerator for a week?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on June 11, 2017, 10:43:44 AM
Just ordered two Sugarloaf from Wellsprings Simon.

Here's another good deal for those just starting out.  6 plants, 3 cultivars for $24 isn't half bad.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/PINEAPPLE-PLANT-COLLECTION-White-Jade-Sugarloaf-Florida-Special-/121657952646 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PINEAPPLE-PLANT-COLLECTION-White-Jade-Sugarloaf-Florida-Special-/121657952646)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on June 11, 2017, 02:27:31 PM
I just received a shipment of pineapples from jude. How long can they last? Can I keep it in the refrigerator for a week?

The thing about White Sugarloaf is that they don't have a long Shelf life the sooner you eat it the better but I'm sure you can wait a few days but i wouldn't take any longer than that
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on June 11, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
I just received a shipment of pineapples from jude. How long can they last? Can I keep it in the refrigerator for a week?

I've heard they can last about a week or so if kept in the fridge. I took the top off my extra fruit and kept it in the fridge. When I cut it open, it was still super fresh.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on June 12, 2017, 06:44:47 AM
I just received a shipment of pineapples from jude. How long can they last? Can I keep it in the refrigerator for a week?

The thing about White Sugarloaf is that they don't have a long Shelf life the sooner you eat it the better but I'm sure you can wait a few days but i wouldn't take any longer than that

Mine were picked Monday, June 5.  Shipped the 6th.  Arrived the 8th.  Ate one on Saturday and was amazing and fresh.  Not sure what your "few days" refers to...
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on June 15, 2017, 05:50:39 PM
I just received a shipment of pineapples from jude. How long can they last? Can I keep it in the refrigerator for a week?

The thing about White Sugarloaf is that they don't have a long Shelf life the sooner you eat it the better but I'm sure you can wait a few days but i wouldn't take any longer than that
They keep fine, especially when picked before fully ripe, as most shippers do.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on June 15, 2017, 06:08:11 PM


I just received a shipment of pineapples from jude. How long can they last? Can I keep it in the refrigerator for a week?

The thing about White Sugarloaf is that they don't have a long Shelf life the sooner you eat it the better but I'm sure you can wait a few days but i wouldn't take any longer than that
They keep fine, especially when picked before fully ripe, as most shippers do.

Agreed.  Mine were shipped last Tuesday, arrived on Thursday and had o e last night that was every bit as good as the one I tried upon arrival last Thursday.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: indoorpineapplegrower on June 17, 2017, 05:22:03 PM
Kaua'i Sugarloaf and White Jade are my two favorite white-fleshed pineapples to grow and eat. I have one Kaua'i Sugarloaf flowering right now.

http://indoorpineapplegrowers.org (http://indoorpineapplegrowers.org)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on June 17, 2017, 10:29:14 PM
Great website with lots of information indoorpineapplegrower!
Between the White Sugarloaf and the White Jade, do you recall which variety tasted sweeter?

Simon

Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on June 18, 2017, 09:40:46 AM
$27.50 EACH? ::) Ouch!  https://kauaisugarloaf.com/products/kauai-sugarloaf-pineapple

Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on June 18, 2017, 09:58:54 AM
$27.50 EACH? ::) Ouch!  https://kauaisugarloaf.com/products/kauai-sugarloaf-pineapple

No. Actually  $37.50 each after incorporating the shipping.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on June 18, 2017, 11:52:16 AM
The Kuai White Sugarloaf are so good but so darn expensive, another reason to grow your own. They are a bit cheaper when you buy three and you save on shipping costs. I hope to have enough White Sugarloaf and White Jade so that I will be able to harvest one fruit a month.

The taste of the White Sugarloaf is creamy and candy like and it does have just enough acidity to balance out the sugars.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on June 18, 2017, 02:15:25 PM
I have ordered them before in the past but just to do a test with how much they cost with shipping this is what it come's to for all 3 deals separate Carts

Buying just 1 with shipping come's to $57.50

Buying two with shipping come's to $85.00

Buying 3 with shipping come's to $112.50

Did you all have to pay the same. or how did you get them cheaper ?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on June 18, 2017, 03:45:43 PM
That's what I paid. I buy three at a time to lower cost and then sell one to a friend that also wanted to try it. Next time, I'm going to order three and keep them all for myself.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on June 19, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
Ya'll enjoy your pineapple.  My $112 is going towards a couple of bottles of fine Japanese Scotch aka "whisky".  ;)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on June 20, 2017, 03:54:46 AM
The Kuai White Sugarloaf are so good but so darn expensive, another reason to grow your own. They are a bit cheaper when you buy three and you save on shipping costs. I hope to have enough White Sugarloaf and White Jade so that I will be able to harvest one fruit a month.

The taste of the White Sugarloaf is creamy and candy like and it does have just enough acidity to balance out the sugars.

Simon

They are only expensive where you live. They cost $4 or $5 each here depending on size.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on June 20, 2017, 07:50:05 AM
Two Sugarloaf pineapples came in yesterday with a "Lily of the Nile" freebie.  Will upcan them to a 1 gal. pot for a while.

I'm all set! 

(https://s24.postimg.cc/k5urlc99d/Sugar_Loaf_Plants.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/k5urlc99d/)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on June 30, 2017, 10:58:02 AM
I let one of my pineapples to get yellow to see if it gets better in taste or spoiled like I've heard. So, the flesh looked "more" white ( or I'm imagining it :D ) and tasted a little better than the one with green skin and yellow dots. I found only one dark spot inside and it was because of the damage from outside. Here are some pictures below.

(http://i.imgur.com/OfArvgr.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/A9yPV74.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/iEJKYxK.jpg?1)

Got some seeds from this one.

(http://i.imgur.com/eU8cmOS.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on June 30, 2017, 11:14:15 AM
I let one of my pineapples to get yellow to see if it gets better in taste or spoiled like I've heard. So, the flesh looked "more" white ( or I'm imagining it :D ) and tasted a little better than the one with green skin and yellow dots. I found only one dark spot inside and it was because of the damage from outside. Here are some pictures below.

(http://i.imgur.com/OfArvgr.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/A9yPV74.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/iEJKYxK.jpg?1)

Got some seeds from this one.

(http://i.imgur.com/eU8cmOS.jpg?1)

Mine were snow white at golden stage and green stage.  Both tasted amazing...cant say if any real difference taste wise on color alone.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on June 30, 2017, 01:32:01 PM
I ordered several Pineapples from Jude and I couldn't tell the difference between the ones that were eaten immediately vs the ones that were left to yellow a bit. The ones that were left to yellow a bit had a bit more deterioration where the White flesh was turning translucent where I suppose there was slight pressure or shipping damage. The Brix was the same for both methods.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on June 30, 2017, 02:51:22 PM
I noticed that the green one was a little sour but maybe it's just me. The taste is excellent, I agree.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on July 01, 2017, 05:52:51 AM
They are a LOT better if left to fully ripen on the plant (turn yellow/orange).
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 02, 2017, 02:37:10 AM
They are a LOT better if left to fully ripen on the plant (turn yellow/orange).
I bet they are.   :) I hope those tops will root and I'll be able to grow my own and let it ripen on the plant. Fingers crossed. The tops were cut low. One looks better than the other, so I have a hope.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 02, 2017, 01:19:18 PM
My tops died back a lot and the center appeared to be cut out but I got some good new growth. Don't give up on them.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 02, 2017, 02:27:22 PM
even though the center has been cut out of the crown it will still grow and in time it will start to grow suckers
that you can let grow into a new plant that in time will fruit :)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Donkeys4hire on July 02, 2017, 04:50:25 PM
$27.50 EACH? ::) Ouch!  https://kauaisugarloaf.com/products/kauai-sugarloaf-pineapple

No. Actually  $37.50 each after incorporating the shipping.

Makes it hurt more.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 03, 2017, 12:11:02 AM
$27.50 EACH? ::) Ouch!  https://kauaisugarloaf.com/products/kauai-sugarloaf-pineapple

No. Actually  $37.50 each after incorporating the shipping.

Makes it hurt more.
That's just extra motivation to grow your own White Pineapples. When the plants are small, they seem to grow at a snails pace but once they gain some size, they are really fun to watch because of their beauty and it feels so rewarding when they throw sucker, slips, ratoons or whatever you call them. The suckers growing off a main plant seem to grow super fast. I've got my first ever flower on my White Jade and I'm so excited watching the flower grow and slowly transform into a pineapple.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: wonderfruit on July 03, 2017, 12:51:55 AM
I am trying to get into pinnaples . If u grow more than one variety how do you avoid pollinizatiion and seeds? Thanks
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on July 03, 2017, 01:42:13 AM
I am trying to get into pinnaples . If u grow more than one variety how do you avoid pollinizatiion and seeds? Thanks
They are pollinated by hummingbirds. If you have none of them around there will be no crosspollination and no seeds. If you grow them inside a greenhouse same will be true.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 03, 2017, 10:07:36 AM
My tops died back a lot and the center appeared to be cut out but I got some good new growth. Don't give up on them.

Simon

Could you post a picture, Simon? The tops I got look like this...

(http://i.imgur.com/9rBMyRO.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/pljOv5J.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 03, 2017, 10:12:48 AM
even though the center has been cut out of the crown it will still grow and in time it will start to grow suckers
that you can let grow into a new plant that in time will fruit :)

I've heard but did your tops produce suckers being cut out very low? Do you have any pictures?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 03, 2017, 02:57:57 PM
even though the center has been cut out of the crown it will still grow and in time it will start to grow suckers
that you can let grow into a new plant that in time will fruit :)

I've heard but did your tops produce suckers being cut out very low? Do you have any pictures?

This isn't my page but if you scroll down the page till you find Kauai pineapple you will see where they have done
it before growing from a broken crown

http://pineapple.myindoorgrowroom.com/inpine.htm (http://pineapple.myindoorgrowroom.com/inpine.htm)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fyliu on July 03, 2017, 03:06:45 PM
Thanks, I lost my link to this guy's page. It used to be the only page available on the web but now there's a lot of less useful ones showing up on google.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 03, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
even though the center has been cut out of the crown it will still grow and in time it will start to grow suckers
that you can let grow into a new plant that in time will fruit :)

I've heard but did your tops produce suckers being cut out very low? Do you have any pictures?

Only the center was removed from the tops but it was not taken all the way down to the bottom. Here are my planted tops. The new growth is coming from the center that was trimmed back. Their growth is starting to speed up with this heat.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/n1lbcdjqp/IMG_2531.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n1lbcdjqp/)

(https://s8.postimg.cc/62ccx48j5/IMG_2532.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/62ccx48j5/)
Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 03, 2017, 08:18:27 PM
Once i get my new phone next week i will take a few photos of mine they are getting bigger. Cant wait
to see how they turn out
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 03, 2017, 08:22:00 PM
even though the center has been cut out of the crown it will still grow and in time it will start to grow suckers
that you can let grow into a new plant that in time will fruit :)

I've heard but did your tops produce suckers being cut out very low? Do you have any pictures?

Only the center was removed from the tops but it was not taken all the way down to the bottom. Here are my planted tops. The new growth is coming from the center that was trimmed back. Their growth is starting to speed up with this heat.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/n1lbcdjqp/IMG_2531.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n1lbcdjqp/)

(https://s8.postimg.cc/62ccx48j5/IMG_2532.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/62ccx48j5/)
Simon

Well than you mite get lucky and not need to worry about a sucker needing to grow. but only time shell tell :)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 03, 2017, 08:53:34 PM
Yeah, all the center growth is completely new. Either way, the plant is growing so I'm sure it will be fine. I also ordered tissue cultured plants as a back up because I'm paranoid like that, lol. Growing Pineapples is addictive! Talk about delayed gratification, it's been three and a half years and I have one flowering pineapple. The good thing is that I have lots of medium to large plants now and they should grow much faster and fruit sooner now that they have done age on them.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 07, 2017, 10:41:00 PM
Thanks guys. My tops are still look good. One in a cup with water is sending nice roots. The one that looked better, I planted in a soil. The center is growing up. I will take pictures next week and give you an update.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on July 07, 2017, 11:46:49 PM
Thanks guys. My tops are still look good. One in a cup with water is sending nice roots. The one that looked better, I planted in a soil. The center is growing up. I will take pictures next week and give you an update.

No need to put it in water...
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 08, 2017, 01:50:49 AM
I know, Rob.  :) But this way I see how the roots grow and I know when it'starts ready to be planted in the soil and that is a 100% take for me. I lost a few tops planting straight in the soil in the past and I really want these to survive. So, one in the soil, one in the water. Both are doing fine so far.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on July 08, 2017, 09:11:09 AM
I know, Rob.  :) But this way I see how the roots grow and I know when it'starts ready to be planted in the soil and that is a 100% take for me. I lost a few tops planting straight in the soil in the past and I really want these to survive. So, one in the soil, one in the water. Both are doing fine so far.

I also go straight into soil after pulling off the bottom 6 rows of little leaves.  I would think if left in water too long the growing roots would rot.  No?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 08, 2017, 11:24:58 AM
No, Mark. You just have to change the water every other day.

(http://i.imgur.com/XBttRuJ.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/xxZiGQp.jpg?1)

Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on July 08, 2017, 02:31:10 PM
No, Mark. You just have to change the water every other day.

(http://i.imgur.com/XBttRuJ.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/xxZiGQp.jpg?1)

Should be planted
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 08, 2017, 03:08:39 PM
This is an old picture. :) It was planted a long time ago. Just wanted to show that the roots don't rot if they stay a bit longer in water. I usually don't keep them that long and plant when the roots are less than 1 inch long.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 08, 2017, 03:56:58 PM
i know of someone who let her pineapple plant grow full term in a vase of water in the house the plant turned out good
not sure if it ever fruited or not.... but the plant didn't rot or die so i guess that's good
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: vanman on July 16, 2017, 06:54:42 PM
Just order 3 Sugarloafs from Jude.  Unfortunately, it appears he has a back-order now but it's only 7-10 days. 

It seems that I read somewhere, that the core could be quartered and you would still get plants.  I think I'll try that with one of them.  I'll report back with a taste and the quartered cores. 

I have an elite gold pineapple that just flowered.  It will be interesting to see how it ripens in the GH. 

Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 16, 2017, 07:05:04 PM
Ive read that the crown can be quartered and still grow. I wonder if it's better to root the crown first and then quarter or if it's ok quartering first and then rooting? I would think it's easier to quarter and then root but maybe more successful if rooted and then quartered due to immediate ability to uptake water with the roots?

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: ben mango on July 16, 2017, 07:42:17 PM
Ive read that the crown can be quartered and still grow. I wonder if it's better to root the crown first and then quarter or if it's ok quartering first and then rooting? I would think it's easier to quarter and then root but maybe more successful if rooted and then quartered due to immediate ability to uptake water with the roots?

Simon

it also can be done with the slips and suckers. you could root before but then you will just disturb/cut the roots doing it later. if you make the cut first then plant it, you are done. its just another step not needed, i think
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 16, 2017, 07:54:20 PM
That makes sense, it sure would be a lot easier to cut without the roots.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: palologrower on July 20, 2017, 05:46:02 AM
$7/lb @ Wholefoods Kahala/Kailua.

Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 20, 2017, 01:53:59 PM
That's probably about how much we get if for except we have to pay for shipping. I believe one fruit is about 3-4 lbs and she sells a single fruit for about $27.5

These pineapples are super delicious and worth every dollar. I can't wait to harvest from my own plants!

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 23, 2017, 12:31:35 AM
Here's a little update of the top from the Kuai White Sugarloaf I got from Jude. This top is about 2-3 months old and is now 11 inches tall. It would be great if I can get this top to fruit in about two years.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/j1832a125/IMG_2665.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j1832a125/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/pg73yy7rx/IMG_2666.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pg73yy7rx/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/5a3m02c4d/IMG_2667.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5a3m02c4d/)
Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on July 23, 2017, 01:43:04 AM
If you keep it warm all year long and feed it well then it should fruit in 2 years.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 23, 2017, 01:25:38 PM
Update... here's my Kauai Sugarloaf tops today.

One was rooted in water. Nice roots. :) It was planted in soil yesterday.

(http://i.imgur.com/F7ueoW1.jpg?1) (http://i.imgur.com/Cd6eSx8.jpg?1)

This one is growing nicely. Looks quite funny though.  ;D ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/6Ua30FD.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/SM2glYo.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 23, 2017, 03:21:21 PM
If you keep it warm all year long and feed it well then it should fruit in 2 years.

That's the bad thing about growing pineapple in a place that gets cold  is that it will force
the plant to flower to soon alot of times it never gets a chance to reach two years of growth

the part of florida I'm in gets cold but not that bad but a few of my pineapple plant varieties
i grow always seem to flower way to soon around a years worth of growth but i still end up
with a great tasting pineapple...if i had only a few plants i would try moving them inside
but i have way to many plants to have to move lol
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 23, 2017, 03:55:38 PM
I am worried that my pineapple plants will fruit too soon but with my new fertilization schedule using the Nutricote fertilizer, the plants seem to be growing at a super fast rate. I can't believe these guys are already 11 inches in a little over two months. Not just these tops but my Tissue cultured White Sugarloafs are also growing super fast.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 23, 2017, 08:29:52 PM
soon i will add some new photos of my Kauai White Sugarloaf pineapple plants there getting so big...
just need to remember to take the photos lol
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 24, 2017, 02:06:40 PM
here is a photo of my Kauai White Sugarloaf pineapple plants getting alot bigger

(https://s6.postimg.cc/r4kugckjx/Sugar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r4kugckjx/)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 24, 2017, 02:20:55 PM
Hey Jimmy, do you notice any thorns on your White Sugarloaf? Mine seem to have about the same amount as White Jade, pretty much on at the tip of the leaf. These guys are growing fast!

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 24, 2017, 02:38:53 PM
Hey Jimmy, do you notice any thorns on your White Sugarloaf? Mine seem to have about the same amount as White Jade, pretty much on at the tip of the leaf. These guys are growing fast!

Simon

i will have to check next time I'm outside
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 24, 2017, 03:44:23 PM
i checked mine out they didn't have any thorns on the leaves there all smooth leaves
it could be cause you started yours from crowns and i started mine from suckers or slips
some crowns have thorns on them but end up going away over time the bigger the plant
gets
 
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 24, 2017, 07:15:53 PM
Thanks for the report, I have both Tissue cultured and tops of the White Sugarloaf and the leaf just comes to a point like the White Jade so not really any thorns like the Queen.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fyliu on July 25, 2017, 12:57:41 PM
That's very helpful information. I always heard the (Kona) white sugarloaf was thorny. I need to get a few plants now given the recent information that it's pretty much thornless and sweeter than white jade.

Is there a difference between sugarloaf and white sugarloaf? Sugarloaf descriptions say white flesh, edible core, but often say serrated leaves.

Okay so the U. of FL Extension page says leaves are smooth. Sugarloaf and white sugarloaf are the same.

Other places say "smooth leaf with serrated edge". I'll just trust the first hand experience of people here.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fyliu on July 25, 2017, 01:59:03 PM
Things like this makes it confusing. (https://www.ars.usda.gov/ARSUserFiles/20400510/pineapple/HANA29W.jpg)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 25, 2017, 02:07:12 PM
My Kona Sugarloaf has thorns.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 25, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
There are different varieties of Sugarloaf pineapples some are smooth leaf and some are rough leaf meaning
thorns running down the leaves. one of them is a golden pineapple and one of them is a white pineapple
both are really good depends on what you like
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on July 25, 2017, 06:24:31 PM
The white sugarloaf here has serrated edges.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 25, 2017, 07:05:46 PM
 i know for sure that the Kauai White Sugarloaf pineapples that Jude Grows Sales and ships from Hawaii
are all Smooth leaves. I have seen other Sugarloaf pineapples that come from Hawaii that do come with  Serrated edges
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fyliu on July 26, 2017, 02:15:14 AM
Thanks for the insights. I ordered a few plants from Wellspring Gardens. Unfortunately, looking at Simon's posted photos of his sugarloaf plants from there, they are serrated leaved. I think the ones from florida hills are smooth leaved, which is what I was hoping to get.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 26, 2017, 08:22:31 AM
The White Sugarloafs I ordered from Wellspring Gardens has slight serrations in the leaves where as the tops I planted from the Kuai White Sugarloaf have smooth leaves. I'll keep track of these plants and keep everyone updated.

Fang, I recommend buying a fruit from Jude and planting the top. The fruit is amazing!

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fyliu on July 26, 2017, 02:34:20 PM
Last year, in another thread "When is this Kona Sugarloaf ready", vanman fruited his sugarloaf from Florida Hill Nursery and it turned out to be yellow inside so not sugarloaf. No response from the nursery either. I'm just posting here just in case anyone saw my mention of the nursery and wanted to buy from there.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 26, 2017, 03:14:57 PM
If I recall correctly, don't the White Pineapples turn a yellowish color when over ripe?

It appears the best method of getting the true variety you want is by ordering a fruit, if possible(usually not possible) and then growing the top. Fortunately for us, the Kuai White Sugarloaf is the best tasting variety I have personally tasted and this fruit can be ordered and delivered directly to your door. Fortunately for my paranoid self, I'm not trusting the mail order nurseries until I've had a chance to fruit their plants and confirm the fruit myself. I'll just have to wait for my White Sugarloaf plantlets from Wellspring Gardens to fruit before I can confirm what I have but in the meantime, I've also got the actual tops of the Kuai White Sugarloafs from Jude growing which I know is the real deal.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fyliu on July 26, 2017, 03:17:58 PM
I have to order the fruit then. It's pricey though so I will wait a little bit longer.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 26, 2017, 03:30:30 PM
No matter how long you wait the price will still be the same but trust me Kaua'i white sugarloaf pineapple is worth the cost
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fyliu on July 26, 2017, 06:02:30 PM
No matter how long you wait the price will still be the same but trust me Kaua'i white sugarloaf pineapple is worth the cost
I know it won't get cheaper. Will get some when I can.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 26, 2017, 08:24:39 PM
Here's a couple I received today. I'll give a taste report once I sample it.
(https://s2.postimg.cc/vq6hmf991/IMG_2683.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vq6hmf991/)

(https://s2.postimg.cc/udoskjbth/IMG_2684.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/udoskjbth/)

(https://s2.postimg.cc/ribpdo7th/IMG_2685.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ribpdo7th/)

(https://s2.postimg.cc/70qr20vpx/IMG_2686.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/70qr20vpx/)
Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 26, 2017, 08:26:42 PM
Here are some pictures of my White Sugarloafs from WellSpring Gardens. The leaves are slightly serrated but seem to be smoothing out a bit as they mature.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/vln4t9ze5/IMG_2687.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vln4t9ze5/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/n4nmicup9/IMG_2688.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n4nmicup9/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/dldxow771/IMG_2689.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dldxow771/)
Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 26, 2017, 08:49:46 PM
Here are some pictures of my White Sugarloafs from WellSpring Gardens. The leaves are slightly serrated but seem to be smoothing out a bit as they mature.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/vln4t9ze5/IMG_2687.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vln4t9ze5/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/n4nmicup9/IMG_2688.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n4nmicup9/)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/dldxow771/IMG_2689.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dldxow771/)
Simon

yeah mine that i got from  WellSpring Gardens a few years ago had serrated leaves to even a few of my Florida Special pineapple plants i got from them had serrated leaves two of them did out of 6 plants but the pineapples still turned out to be the same only difference was the serrated leaves 
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 26, 2017, 09:00:09 PM
Here's a couple I received today. I'll give a taste report once I sample it.
(https://s2.postimg.cc/vq6hmf991/IMG_2683.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vq6hmf991/)

(https://s2.postimg.cc/udoskjbth/IMG_2684.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/udoskjbth/)

(https://s2.postimg.cc/ribpdo7th/IMG_2685.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ribpdo7th/)

(https://s2.postimg.cc/70qr20vpx/IMG_2686.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/70qr20vpx/)
Simon

Them look really good i was thinking about ordering some again soon myself.... i have seen some of judes pineapples that get to be around 9lbs i would like to be able to get them that big but won't be easy cause the plant needs to get huge to be able to support a pineapple that size and even though i live in florida I'm in a part that still gets some what cold around winter time so most of my plants don't get past 1 years worth of growth
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 27, 2017, 12:29:48 PM
I cut open the first pineapple from this shipment yesterday and the fruit seems a bit larger but this fruit was slightly less sweet and complex as the last shipment. I was hoping this shipment would be even sweeter because it is later in the season and the weather should be warmer but the fruit quality is still great. This pineapple had a bit more acidity and the Brix was 17% at the bottom, last shipment it was 19% at the bottom. This fruit also had less of that vanilla creamy flavor. Hopefully the next fruit will be even better. I'm thinking maybe they got a lot of rain that might have watered down the flavor?

(https://s2.postimg.cc/4y7iwijz9/IMG_2690.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4y7iwijz9/)

(https://s2.postimg.cc/wmyrhrwdh/IMG_2691.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wmyrhrwdh/)
Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fyliu on July 27, 2017, 02:42:59 PM
Do you guys get 1, 2, or 3 at a time?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 27, 2017, 02:53:30 PM
when i order them i get 3 at the time but get what ever amount you need there so worth it :)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 27, 2017, 03:02:48 PM
I cut open the first pineapple from this shipment yesterday and the fruit seems a bit larger but this fruit was slightly less sweet and complex as the last shipment. I was hoping this shipment would be even sweeter because it is later in the season and the weather should be warmer but the fruit quality is still great. This pineapple had a bit more acidity and the Brix was 17% at the bottom, last shipment it was 19% at the bottom. This fruit also had less of that vanilla creamy flavor. Hopefully the next fruit will be even better. I'm thinking maybe they got a lot of rain that might have watered down the flavor?

(https://s2.postimg.cc/4y7iwijz9/IMG_2690.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4y7iwijz9/)

(https://s2.postimg.cc/wmyrhrwdh/IMG_2691.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wmyrhrwdh/)
Simon

i really don't think every pineapple picked will always be the same.. some better than others but still
17% is really good
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Galka on July 27, 2017, 05:54:52 PM
yeah mine that i got from  WellSpring Gardens a few years ago had serrated leaves to even a few of my Florida Special pineapple plants i got from them had serrated leaves two of them did out of 6 plants but the pineapples still turned out to be the same only difference was the serrated leaves
Evildeadguy, here is my Florida special. You can see different leaves on one plant. The crown has smooth leaves so has a baby on the left but the one on the right has spiny leaves.

(http://i.imgur.com/PGs2wxe.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on July 27, 2017, 06:31:44 PM
It's cheaper to buy 3 at a time because you save on shipping. You can combine orders with friends in order to save money.

Jimmy, I agree, each fruit is going to be different. I'll bet these would taste even better when home grown and left to ripen slightly longer on the plant. I'm making White Pineapples snow for my daughters with some fruit I froze last night. I'm throwing the frozen Pineapples into my Omega juicer with a blank plate.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fruitlovers on July 27, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
They get bright yellow-orange when left to ripen on plant and waft a very strong pleasant odor. Pretty irresistible to rats, that's why most pick them early.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 28, 2017, 03:24:56 PM
In the past i have ordered different types of pineapples that come from Hawaii... i know that
the crown on some pineapples can get pretty big but when ordering from Jude they are the
only ones i know of that breaks the crowns  so there able to ship the pineapples i would guess
it has alot to do with the small boxes they use to ship in.

Other places that i have order from Hawaii ship the pineapples they grow in bigger size boxes
like when i ordered Maui Gold i ordered 6 of them and they packed them in a good size box all
nice and snugged and none of the crowns were broken when i got them
 
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: fyliu on July 28, 2017, 04:46:02 PM
Jimmy, what did you think of the Maui Gold variety compared to others? I see them in supermarkets but they're not in very good shape so it wasn't a satisfying experience for me. Not too acidic but also not very sweet either.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 28, 2017, 04:57:00 PM
Jimmy, what did you think of the Maui Gold variety compared to others? I see them in supermarkets but they're not in very good shape so it wasn't a satisfying experience for me. Not too acidic but also not very sweet either.

I liked them they were pretty good but not as good as The white sugarloaf so far its my top fav then the Queen pineapple is my 2nd Fav
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on October 26, 2017, 02:35:55 PM
hey here is an update to my White SugarLoaf Pineapple Plants here is a Photo so you can see how big they have gotten
they are almost a year old

(https://s6.postimg.cc/7anlllgst/IMG_20171026_134702.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7anlllgst/)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on October 26, 2017, 03:52:56 PM
Nice update, those look like they’re almost the size for flowering. Many of my pineapples got sunburn from the 104F heat they received on Monday.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on October 26, 2017, 05:23:32 PM
Nice update, those look like they’re almost the size for flowering. Many of my pineapples got sunburn from the 104F heat they received on Monday.

Simon

Yeah i got a funny feeling they will flower soon now that the temps are dropping it needs to be around the 50's for a pineapple plant  to flower
so we shell see in the next month or so if it does flower
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on November 16, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
before i forget again Lol I wanted to let everyone know that the White Sugarloaf pineapple plant sunburns easy the leaves i'm talking about
i was thinking it was just mine but it seems they do the same thing in Hawaii to i watched one of Judes youtube videos again and hers does the same thing as mine.... so when time come's guess i will have to keep the pineapple covered up like they do with jude's pineapples i think they use a paper bag to cover them
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on December 16, 2017, 05:58:44 PM
update again the kauai white sugarloaf if you plan to grow them they don't like the cold at all and get freeze burn easy last
week we had a few days here in florida that were pretty cold i went to look at them and most of the leaves were white...
so i went online to do a search on pineapple white leaves meant freeze burn from cold temps around 50 or lower....
i just hope it didn't hurt them to bad that they will pull through

its crazy cause none of my other pineapple plant varitys took any damage from the cold

so far i have learned Kauai white sugarloaf plants are  sensitive to sun they burn easy on really hot days and now cold sensitive
guess that's why they do so great in Hawaii.... jude has said before the plant and fruit sun burn easy
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on December 17, 2017, 07:24:27 AM
update again the kauai white sugarloaf if you plan to grow them they don't like the cold at all and get freeze burn easy last
week we had a few days here in florida that were pretty cold i went to look at them and most of the leaves were white...
so i went online to do a search on pineapple white leaves meant freeze burn from cold temps around 50 or lower....
i just hope it didn't hurt them to bad that they will pull through

its crazy cause none of my other pineapple plant varitys took any damage from the cold

so far i have learned Kauai white sugarloaf plants are  sensitive to sun they burn easy on really hot days and now cold sensitive
guess that's why they do so great in Hawaii.... jude has said before the plant and fruit sun burn easy

Funny but my Sugarloaf and White Jade have not shown stress unlike a couple of "twistees".  Temps have dropped in the greenhouse to 35F at least 3 times and some are getting very white.  I don't think pineapples in general like temps below 45F
 
(https://s7.postimg.cc/3xrzkoo3r/Sulking_Pineapples.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3xrzkoo3r/)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on December 17, 2017, 09:18:27 AM
update again the kauai white sugarloaf if you plan to grow them they don't like the cold at all and get freeze burn easy last
week we had a few days here in florida that were pretty cold i went to look at them and most of the leaves were white...
so i went online to do a search on pineapple white leaves meant freeze burn from cold temps around 50 or lower....
i just hope it didn't hurt them to bad that they will pull through

its crazy cause none of my other pineapple plant varitys took any damage from the cold

so far i have learned Kauai white sugarloaf plants are  sensitive to sun they burn easy on really hot days and now cold sensitive
guess that's why they do so great in Hawaii.... jude has said before the plant and fruit sun burn easy

Funny but my Sugarloaf and White Jade have not shown stress unlike a couple of "twistees".  Temps have dropped in the greenhouse to 35F at least 3 times and some are getting very white.  I don't think pineapples in general like temps below 45F
 
(https://s7.postimg.cc/3xrzkoo3r/Sulking_Pineapples.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3xrzkoo3r/)

hey mine look just like what you showed in your photo... the white color on the leaves is damage from getting to cold....
its weird cause only my white sugarloaf got damage and all my other pineapple plants did fine

When temperatures drop to freezing, the pineapple plant may be damaged. Red or white burn spots on the leaves and rotting fruit indicate that the plant was exposed to temperatures at or below 32 degrees Fahrenheit. While the pineapple can tolerate very brief periods of low or freezing temperatures, longer exposure may lead to the death of the plant.

Mine are almost full grown but like you said most pineapple plants don't handle cold weather very well I'm glad my queen and red Spanish are very cold tolerant and handle cold weather better
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: FamilyJ on January 12, 2018, 06:38:19 PM
Just got one the other day and here brix I got. Best pineapple I had
(https://s17.postimg.cc/7sq5fsg97/20180112_183231.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7sq5fsg97/)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on January 13, 2018, 02:28:22 AM
I’ve been recommending these pineapples to all my friends and everyone loves them. Save the top for planting!

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Kona fruit farm on January 14, 2018, 01:42:58 AM
Just planted 22 of tbese. 🤙🏼   White pineapple for life!
(https://s9.postimg.cc/502pmheor/7_BC8_E5_D7-_FADA-4262-8_EE6-3_C09_D44773_CB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/502pmheor/)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Samu on January 14, 2018, 02:23:44 AM
I've been reading this pineapple tread today, you guys made me thinking of planting some myself!  :D
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: savemejebus on January 14, 2018, 07:33:37 AM
I've been reading this pineapple tread today, you guys made me thinking of planting some myself!  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoqDYcCDOTg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoqDYcCDOTg)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Schutzhund on January 19, 2018, 12:08:07 AM
Got to try my first Sugarloaf pineapple today, and it was amazing. I immediately saved the top to plant later
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: beicadad on January 19, 2018, 12:45:11 AM
Just planted 22 of tbese. 🤙🏼   White pineapple for life!
(https://s9.postimg.cc/502pmheor/7_BC8_E5_D7-_FADA-4262-8_EE6-3_C09_D44773_CB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/502pmheor/)

looking good! how far do you space them?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 16, 2018, 02:42:25 PM
Newly Potted White SugarLoaf Pineapple Plant :) Hopefully these ones will do better than last season they took alot of cold damage and all the leaves died off

(https://s6.postimg.cc/fppa9l77h/IMG_20180516_125812_HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fppa9l77h/)

Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: FamilyJ on May 16, 2018, 06:08:28 PM
Newly Potted White SugarLoaf Pineapple Plant :) Hopefully these ones will do better than last season they took alot of cold damage and all the leaves died off

(https://s6.postimg.cc/fppa9l77h/IMG_20180516_125812_HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fppa9l77h/)

Whats that black you used? This by far was the best and also plus is not sharp needle fins to poke you
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on May 16, 2018, 08:57:35 PM
Newly Potted White SugarLoaf Pineapple Plant :) Hopefully these ones will do better than last season they took alot of cold damage and all the leaves died off

(https://s6.postimg.cc/fppa9l77h/IMG_20180516_125812_HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fppa9l77h/)

Whats that black you used? This by far was the best and also plus is not sharp needle fins to poke you

It's called a weed block disk made to fit pots
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: FamilyJ on May 17, 2018, 06:23:06 AM
Newly Potted White SugarLoaf Pineapple Plant :) Hopefully these ones will do better than last season they took alot of cold damage and all the leaves died off

(https://s6.postimg.cc/fppa9l77h/IMG_20180516_125812_HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fppa9l77h/)

Whats that black you used? This by far was the best and also plus is not sharp needle fins to poke you

It's called a weed block disk made to fit pots

Thanks so much
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: wzy43155 on June 26, 2018, 08:22:45 PM
Newly Potted White SugarLoaf Pineapple Plant :) Hopefully these ones will do better than last season they took alot of cold damage and all the leaves died off

(https://s6.postimg.cc/fppa9l77h/IMG_20180516_125812_HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fppa9l77h/)

Where did you get the white SugarLoaf Pineapple seedlings?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on June 27, 2018, 08:41:08 AM
Newly Potted White SugarLoaf Pineapple Plant :) Hopefully these ones will do better than last season they took alot of cold damage and all the leaves died off

(https://s6.postimg.cc/fppa9l77h/IMG_20180516_125812_HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fppa9l77h/)

Where did you get the white SugarLoaf Pineapple seedlings?

Hi i got them a little over a year ago from this website you have to order the white sugarloaf from them and grow from the crown you get with the pineapple.... https://kauaisugarloaf.com/
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on June 27, 2018, 03:23:04 PM
Just got one the other day and here brix I got. Best pineapple I had
(https://s17.postimg.cc/7sq5fsg97/20180112_183231.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7sq5fsg97/)

Holy King Kamehameha!  I just looked at that brix.  26.5, are you kidding me?

Got a bunch of these that need upcanning to 3 gal. pots.  Hope to fruit them next year.......got my lab grade bottle of calcium carbide by mah side if they choose to be stingy with their offspring.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: simon_grow on June 27, 2018, 04:57:27 PM
Wow, that’s the highest reading I’ve seen from a white Sugarloaf! I didn’t know it can get that high. I guess I’ll have to fertilize my plants now.

Simon
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: FamilyJ on June 27, 2018, 08:41:04 PM
this is the top for the brix in Jan
Hopefully it will be same great taste
(https://s8.postimg.cc/ufg1jb48h/20180627_203801.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ufg1jb48h/)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 05, 2018, 10:33:17 AM
I think the 26.5 degree of brix might have been a fluke. I was just looking through the previous posts from simon_grow, and he was getting brix readings of 19 from the same grower for orders received in May and July.

19 degree of brix should be more typical of this fruit. So, I wouldn't assume that there is anything magical about the Kaui Sugarloaf over a regular sugarloaf or white jade. Probably just a good year for the grower.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: FamilyJ on July 05, 2018, 10:54:50 AM
I think the 26.5 degree of brix might have been a fluke. I was just looking through the previous posts from simon_grow, and he was getting brix readings of 19 from the same grower for orders received in May and July.

19 degree of brix should be more typical of this fruit. So, I wouldn't assume that there is anything magical about the Kaui Sugarloaf over a regular sugarloaf or white jade. Probably just a good year for the grower.
True but maybe this year turned into a great one, unlike the mangoes turned not soo good in florida due to rain lowered mangoes?Not sure how Hawaii was during the time i bought it if there was any influence. Since as you stated same with mangoes for florida this year with lower side of the brix compared to other years? Or it could have been a one time fluke.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on July 05, 2018, 12:15:54 PM
I think the 26.5 degree of brix might have been a fluke. I was just looking through the previous posts from simon_grow, and he was getting brix readings of 19 from the same grower for orders received in May and July.

19 degree of brix should be more typical of this fruit. So, I wouldn't assume that there is anything magical about the Kaui Sugarloaf over a regular sugarloaf or white jade. Probably just a good year for the grower.

I have had about 15 of them from Jude over the last year, 3 that were received in February 2018, all others were between June and September 2017.   The 3 from February were by far the worst I have had (all 3 were the same quality).  Lowest in terms of sweetness/sugars and highest in terms of acidity.  The ones from last year were consistently total sugar bombs with very little in the way of acidity (both Sheehan and Peter sampled them).

I am not saying every fruit harvested will be equal (they do have multiple fields) but just making a comparison of what I have been able to sample.

I have placed another order so will see if maybe its the year thats off, different with different seasons or just a total, unknown coincidence with no viable comparison to be made...
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: savemejebus on July 05, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
I think the 26.5 degree of brix might have been a fluke. I was just looking through the previous posts from simon_grow, and he was getting brix readings of 19 from the same grower for orders received in May and July.

19 degree of brix should be more typical of this fruit. So, I wouldn't assume that there is anything magical about the Kaui Sugarloaf over a regular sugarloaf or white jade. Probably just a good year for the grower.

I have had about 15 of them from Jude over the last year, 3 that were received in February 2018, all others were between June and September 2017.   The 3 from February were by far the worst I have had (all 3 were the same quality).  Lowest in terms of sweetness/sugars and highest in terms of acidity.  The ones from last year were consistently total sugar bombs with very little in the way of acidity (both Sheehan and Peter sampled them).

I am not saying every fruit harvested will be equal (they do have multiple fields) but just making a comparison of what I have been able to sample.

I have placed another order so will see if maybe its the year thats off, different with different seasons or just a total, unknown coincidence with no viable comparison to be made...

Same experience. I got 4 (one of them was smaller so she adds an extra) a few months ago and they were nothing to write home about. What I got from her last year was amazing - night and day difference in the crops.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: BestDay on July 28, 2018, 12:07:00 PM
I'm excited that these Kauai White Sugarloafs don't have spines on the leaves.  I pulled all of my White Sugarloafs because the spines tore me up anytime I brushed against them.  Does anyone have some pups or slips for sale?

Bill
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 28, 2018, 02:28:35 PM
I'm excited that these Kauai White Sugarloafs don't have spines on the leaves.  I pulled all of my White Sugarloafs because the spines tore me up anytime I brushed against them.  Does anyone have some pups or slips for sale?

Bill

I don't have any to offer at the time.... but i do have a plant i keep around it wont ever grow a pineapple but it does produce suckers if i get a few i will let ya know..... hopefully someone on here has some to spare  to sell
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on July 28, 2018, 02:32:20 PM
You can always place an order with Jude and get a fruit and a top...
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: 561MangoFanatic on July 28, 2018, 02:45:17 PM
You can always place an order with Jude and get a fruit and a top...

Did so recently as I purchased Kona Sugarloaf pineapple starts thinking they were the same as the Kauai Sugarloaf.
Man that pineapple was delicious 🤤



Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: 561MangoFanatic on July 29, 2018, 05:55:00 PM
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ghqdobcmz/5_D903698-288_F-4574-8840-13_ED9_F4_CFB45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ghqdobcmz/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/4fuzu6b4b/6_C40_FC8_E-0646-4087-8_BA0-419092_B09_C83.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4fuzu6b4b/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/y7s29d5nf/BF8_F167_D-2_D8_B-4_E3_B-_B865-_A7_A5_A6_CBF82_D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y7s29d5nf/)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on July 30, 2018, 09:41:25 AM
(https://s33.postimg.cc/y7s29d5nf/BF8_F167_D-2_D8_B-4_E3_B-_B865-_A7_A5_A6_CBF82_D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y7s29d5nf/)

Why did you cut it off like that?  You left the roots.  You twist (never cut) the top off, remove the bottom leaves on about 6 rows, the root nubs will be revealed.  Pot up.

(https://s22.postimg.cc/x1dp0y6y5/Roots.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x1dp0y6y5/)



(https://s22.postimg.cc/ch8v2jyxp/twistee_New.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ch8v2jyxp/)
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on July 30, 2018, 09:51:38 AM
(https://s33.postimg.cc/y7s29d5nf/BF8_F167_D-2_D8_B-4_E3_B-_B865-_A7_A5_A6_CBF82_D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y7s29d5nf/)

Why did you cut it off like that?  You left the roots.  You twist (never cut) the top off, remove the bottom leaves on about 6 rows, the root nubs will be revealed.  Pot up.

(https://s22.postimg.cc/x1dp0y6y5/Roots.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x1dp0y6y5/)



(https://s22.postimg.cc/ch8v2jyxp/twistee_New.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ch8v2jyxp/)

Thats how the majority come from Jude (probably for purposes of fitting in the box for shipping).  They still grow just fine.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on July 30, 2018, 10:06:14 AM
His 2nd photo looks like it was an intact top.   I'd be pissed if I paid $50 for a pineapple and someone butchered the top like that.  They can sure find a way to get another 3" of room out of that box IMO.

I wish him the best, hope it grows.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on July 30, 2018, 10:18:11 AM
His 2nd photo looks like it was an intact top.   I'd be pissed if I paid $50 for a pineapple and someone butchered the top like that.  They can sure find a way to get another 3" of room out of that box IMO.

I wish him the best, hope it grows.

Again, some come intact and crushed and the majority come cut.  I have grown all of them that I have received (15 or 16 of trhem) and they all, including at least 6 cut tops, have 100% takes and thriving.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Evildeadguy on July 30, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
When Ordering Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapple from Jude.... on the order page there is a spot you can leave a message before placing an order..... if you plan to grow from the crown you need to leave a note saying for them to not break the crowns cause you plan to grow them. when she goes out she will look for pineapples that are ripe and have smaller crowns on them so they will fit in the shipping box. they mite be a little bent but should still grow great


she does ship them in small boxes  to save on shipping cost i would guess

 
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: bsbullie on July 30, 2018, 05:52:12 PM
When Ordering Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapple from Jude.... on the order page there is a spot you can leave a message before placing an order..... if you plan to grow from the crown you need to leave a note saying for them to not break the crowns cause you plan to grow them. when she goes out she will look for pineapples that are ripe and have smaller crowns on them so they will fit in the shipping box. they mite be a little bent but should still grow great


she does ship them in small boxes  to save on shipping cost i would guess

Mark, what is your problem and did you read what I have been saying?  They grow just fine even with the tops cut like that.  You wantbto see the pictures?  Get over yourself.

They are not shipped in small boxes either...just how many orders have you placed with them?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on July 31, 2018, 10:42:30 AM
When Ordering Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapple from Jude.... on the order page there is a spot you can leave a message before placing an order..... if you plan to grow from the crown you need to leave a note saying for them to not break the crowns cause you plan to grow them. when she goes out she will look for pineapples that are ripe and have smaller crowns on them so they will fit in the shipping box. they mite be a little bent but should still grow great


she does ship them in small boxes  to save on shipping cost i would guess

Mark, what is your problem and did you read what I have been saying?  They grow just fine even with the tops cut like that.  You wantbto see the pictures?  Get over yourself.

They are not shipped in small boxes either...just how many orders have you placed with them?

You're paying $60 for a butchered pineapple and I'm the one with the problem?  Me thinks the bromelain has gone to yo haid.   ;D

No thanks, I'll grow my own, harvest when they're ripe not green. They are better than what we got from the truck farmers during our many visits to Oahu, Maui, Hawaii, and Kauai.  Just upcanned 4 plants to 3 gal. pots yesterday in fact, White Sugarloaf and White Jade.  Stay tuned for some fruit porn next year.  ;)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/iqi2vs0i5/Pineapples_July31_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/iqi2vs0i5/)

And just in case you think I'm bluffing about being on Kauai, here's a shot from a raft at the Napali coast, north side of Kauai.  1,000' uplifts, beautiful place. 

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Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: 561MangoFanatic on July 31, 2018, 02:47:22 PM
When Ordering Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapple from Jude.... on the order page there is a spot you can leave a message before placing an order..... if you plan to grow from the crown you need to leave a note saying for them to not break the crowns cause you plan to grow them. when she goes out she will look for pineapples that are ripe and have smaller crowns on them so they will fit in the shipping box. they mite be a little bent but should still grow great


she does ship them in small boxes  to save on shipping cost i would guess

I meant to ask Jude to do this but thought it would’ve arrived intact from the videos on YouTube of others’ previous orders. No biggie as Rob stated that they’ll still grow back, lesson learned.. though I agree with Mark, if I’m paying $60 for a single pineapple I would rather they twist the top off for both to easily fit rather than cut it.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Mark in Texas on August 01, 2018, 08:39:35 AM
They are tough and resilient plants.  I had a bench full of 5' wide White Jade and other faves, had the heater failure, got hit with 18F,  plants looked like hell so I dumped most of them on a burn pile outside.  Most of those I left on the bench came back from the dead via pups.  Some had rot in the center pt. and died.  I should have left them alone for about 3 mos.  Hard lesson learned.  :-[

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Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: 561MangoFanatic on August 01, 2018, 11:45:13 AM
How do Kauai Sugarloaf & White Jade pineapples compare in flavor? Quite similar/slight differences?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: FamilyJ on August 01, 2018, 01:05:01 PM
How do Kauai Sugarloaf & White Jade pineapples compare in flavor? Quite similar/slight differences?
you can see where i got a high brix from her last time and almost too sweet but great and no thorns core was better
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Rice-N-Beans on February 27, 2024, 08:55:31 PM
Old thread I'm bringing up so others that lurk know it exists.



I have a question, are the Sugarloaf pineapple plants being sold at Lowe's the same as the Kauai Sugarloaf? Or is Kona and Kauai the same plant, and that would most likely mean Lowe's plant labeled sugarloaf is the real deal?
I put the plant labeled sugarloaf in my cart but put it back, I thought I'd ask here first if these are legit before spending $20.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: spaugh on February 27, 2024, 09:01:25 PM
Did you take a pic of the plant?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Rice-N-Beans on February 27, 2024, 09:08:51 PM
Did you take a pic of the plant?

I did not take a picture, I have to go back to Lowe's tomorrow and I think I'll just plop down the $20. I'll definitely take pics and post the plant, one thing I noticed on the label was no word of "white" on it, so that was one red flag, it just read "sugarloaf". 
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: irun5k on February 27, 2024, 10:24:03 PM
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I have to go back to Lowe's tomorrow and I think I'll just plop down the $20. I'll definitely take pics and post the plant, one thing I noticed on the label was no word of "white" on it, so that was one red flag, it just read "sugarloaf".

I saw a couple of those at Home Depot last year but elected not to buy based on price and also the plant being loose in the pot- didn't feel fully rooted.  I ended up ordering some slips instead.  If it is a healthy looking plant maybe it is worth a shot though.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: spaugh on February 27, 2024, 10:53:46 PM
White sugarloaf has smooth leaves, yellow has sharp leaves and not worth growing. 
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Jagmanjoe on February 28, 2024, 06:26:37 AM
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I have to go back to Lowe's tomorrow and I think I'll just plop down the $20. I'll definitely take pics and post the plant, one thing I noticed on the label was no word of "white" on it, so that was one red flag, it just read "sugarloaf".

I saw a couple of those at Home Depot last year but elected not to buy based on price and also the plant being loose in the pot- didn't feel fully rooted.  I ended up ordering some slips instead.  If it is a healthy looking plant maybe it is worth a shot though.

I did purchase one of those just under 2 years ago.  It did have the smooth leaves and produced a pineapple that was a little small but was white and had an edible core.  It was really sweet and virtually no acidic taste.  It produced one offshoot that is growing well and I also planted the top which is doing well.

We liked it so much, I did buy some small shoots from to mail order sources.  One vendor sent some with smooth leaves that are doing well.  Another vendor send some with spiked leaves.  I posted on another site questioning this and received various responses with a few saying there are 2 varieties.  I returned the spiked ones.

I also saw a half dozen that looked pretty sad at our local HD about 3 months ago.  I spoke to the manager there to see if he would discount them and he said they were getting ready to throw them out and gave them to me.  I took those home and repotted them.  Half of them did not make it but the other half are hanging on.

I'll try to take a couple of pics and post them later today.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Rice-N-Beans on February 28, 2024, 11:46:28 AM
I bought one, I  can take more pics if needed.  My local Lowe's has quite a few in stock. I went to the Lowe's in Pembroke Pines, this is in Broward  County.


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Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: spaugh on February 28, 2024, 01:04:29 PM
it looks like white jade / white sugarloafs
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Rice-N-Beans on February 28, 2024, 01:56:17 PM
it looks like white jade / white sugarloafs

Thank you! Hopefully next year or so I can finally taste what a Sugarloaf pineapple tastes like, I'm pretty excited!
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: FloridaGrower69 on February 28, 2024, 08:01:52 PM
The original cultivar (according to the old breeders) was ‘Monte Lirio’ - supposedly…the original white fleshed pineapple. I heard a similar story of how it was smuggled onto the island.  An article I read in an old issue of PRI Pineapple News backed that story up - according to the author, white pineapple wasn’t grown en mass on Hawaii because Dole wasn't sold on the cultivar, saying the mainland U.S.market wanted gold fleshed pineapple. 
They missed out - a great pineapple for sure  - Great pics btw!!!!.

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Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: murahilin on February 28, 2024, 09:45:41 PM
The original cultivar (according to the old breeders) was ‘Monte Lirio’ - supposedly…the original white fleshed pineapple. I heard a similar story of how it was smuggled onto the island.  An article I read in an old issue of PRI Pineapple News backed that story up - according to the author, white pineapple wasn’t grown en mass on Hawaii because Dole wasn't sold on the cultivar, saying the mainland U.S.market wanted gold fleshed pineapple. 
They missed out - a great pineapple for sure  - Great pics btw!!!!.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CB5R2PXD/IMG-0449.png) (https://postimg.cc/CB5R2PXD)

So is it definite that the White Jade, White Sugarloaf, and Kauai White Sugarloaf are all the same?
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Rice-N-Beans on February 29, 2024, 11:45:15 AM
The original cultivar (according to the old breeders) was ‘Monte Lirio’ - supposedly…the original white fleshed pineapple. I heard a similar story of how it was smuggled onto the island.  An article I read in an old issue of PRI Pineapple News backed that story up - according to the author, white pineapple wasn’t grown en mass on Hawaii because Dole wasn't sold on the cultivar, saying the mainland U.S.market wanted gold fleshed pineapple. 
They missed out - a great pineapple for sure  - Great pics btw!!!!.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CB5R2PXD/IMG-0449.png) (https://postimg.cc/CB5R2PXD)


Neat piece of history on the cultivar, thanks for sharing that. Dole dropped the ball on this one seeing how many folks rate this pineapple so highly, I hope someday to find the fruit sold locally from local farmers around here so I can  just pick one up at the market rather than waiting two years to grow one like I'm doing now, or ordering one from the Islands.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: Rice-N-Beans on February 29, 2024, 11:49:58 AM
The original cultivar (according to the old breeders) was ‘Monte Lirio’ - supposedly…the original white fleshed pineapple. I heard a similar story of how it was smuggled onto the island.  An article I read in an old issue of PRI Pineapple News backed that story up - according to the author, white pineapple wasn’t grown en mass on Hawaii because Dole wasn't sold on the cultivar, saying the mainland U.S.market wanted gold fleshed pineapple. 
They missed out - a great pineapple for sure  - Great pics btw!!!!.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CB5R2PXD/IMG-0449.png) (https://postimg.cc/CB5R2PXD)

So is it definite that the White Jade, White Sugarloaf, and Kauai White Sugarloaf are all the same?


I'd like to know too, I have skimmed a few of the pineapple threads on this forum and I have not found a definite answer.
Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: spaugh on February 29, 2024, 01:14:38 PM
They sre the same plant.

My guess is someone called it white jade so that thry could propogate them and not get in trouble with the kauai white sugarloaf pwople. 

Title: Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
Post by: FloridaGrower69 on February 29, 2024, 03:41:23 PM
All the same family as Brad rightly points out. Agreed.

Contributing to the conversation my experiences w/ them .... some might value the input if choosing a white pineapple.

Here are some very subtle differences in how they perform here ... which may differ greatly from other growing regions/zones.

Here at my property in Central FL (hot/humid then cold/dry) traditional sugarloaf (like the cultivar bought at big box stores or through Agri-Starts) tends to 'stack' (gets taller and taller) without producing fruit.  One of the plants that I had in a good spot reached about 5' high, which compared to others is enormous.  Sugarloaf often produces as many slips as my queens - which is impressive.  Those are removed for the obvious reason it saps energy and can slow inflorescence development.

White Jade is very similar - but even with the same sun/feeding/watering... it does not tolerate chilly weather as well.  It struggles where I grow it.  i have 6 plants from 2 different farmers and they all struggle in winter.  the fruit is very good though.  My plants are prone to  'bolting' - or flower at the first chilly cold front passage, even when the plants are just 1 year old.  This produces very small fruit - and no slips or pups.

Kauai White tends not to stack - but instead the plant's spread is wider.  It produces fruit consistently w/ out forcing (calcium carbide) - and produces  3-4 pups, - but i my case, very few slips.  It handles the chilly winter winds well - and flowers predictably.  The plant material is from Jude and Paul's farm on Kauai.  Plant and the fruit are absolute winners.  If you haven't tried their fruit - you should consider splurging - creamy Vanilla.  Amazing.

Again, these are results from Sebastian Florida - others may have different experiences.

Giving Jude and Paul's farm story page a plug - It's interesting reading material  https://kauaisugarloaf.com/about-us/

Good to see people growing the white fruits - they can be higher-maintenance growing in some areas.  Great to see many are having solid results.