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Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« on: April 25, 2016, 10:16:15 PM »
I think I may have mixed up the tags for two of my grafts. My Pineapple Pleasure is not exactly looking like Pineapple pleasure and it may be Sweet Tart. I would appreciate it if someone could please post some pics of the immature fruit of both of those varieties. Thanks!

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2016, 10:31:23 PM »
You can tell the difference by smelling the leaves. The sweet tart has coca cola smelling sap, while the pineapple pleasure has citrus smelling sap (if memory serves).
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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2016, 11:16:26 PM »
Post pictures of the vegetative growth.  Sweet Tart should be able to be identified by structure and shape.
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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2016, 11:34:43 AM »
Here is Sweet Tart for reference (don't know if the tiny fruits can be seen or not, but at least the leaves or tree might help you):


« Last Edit: April 26, 2016, 11:38:16 AM by michsu »

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2016, 12:11:38 PM »
Here is Sweet Tart for reference (don't know if the tiny fruits can be seen or not, but at least the leaves or tree might help you):



Some stress going on with that tree
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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2016, 01:19:36 PM »
Pineapple Pleasure -


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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2016, 02:27:31 PM »
What kind of stress? It would be good if you can tell me.. too hot, not enough water, not enough fertilizer? Thanks.

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2016, 02:30:34 PM »
Pineapple Pleasure -


Thanks. Those look exactly like my PP. Same bumpiness and shape. Squam also sent me a pic of his and it looked the same as well.

I did in fact have the Pineapple Pleasure and Sweet Tart grafts mixed up.

I got the budwood from PJ1881 but his tree is multigrafted with PP and ST and I am notorious for forgetting to label my grafts/budwood.

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2016, 09:24:42 PM »
What kind of stress? It would be good if you can tell me.. too hot, not enough water, not enough fertilizer? Thanks.

I keep on telling to use fish meal (pure protein dry) as a fertilizer it covers plenty of aminos which is good for the plant plus iron & zinc.

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2016, 09:51:31 PM »
What kind of stress? It would be good if you can tell me.. too hot, not enough water, not enough fertilizer? Thanks.

looks a little drought stressed and possibly from a young tree trying to carry the fruit.
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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2016, 09:12:24 AM »
I did use kelp meal, seabird guano, and worm castings just recently on all the plants too.. well, a month or two ago..

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2016, 09:13:17 AM »
thanks bsbullie for your advice. I'll start watering some more.

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2016, 12:20:00 PM »
Some pictures of my sweet tart





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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2016, 11:10:59 PM »
Some pictures of my sweet tart






Thanks! Now I can definitely confirm the "Sweet Tart" is Sweet Tart.

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2016, 12:45:57 AM »
Murahilin

Does that mean the pineapple pleasure scion I got from you sometime ago is a sweet tart? The leaves looks very similar to my sweet tart. Only difference I can tell is that PP graft  has lighter green leaves. Can anyone else confirm if my graft is indeed a PP?



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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2016, 01:48:29 AM »
The Pineapple Pleasure scions I got from Murahilin are definitely Pineapple Pleasure and not Sweet Tart. The fruitlets on my PP branches have large roundish bumpy fruit like the picture posted. They look different than my Sweet Tart fruit.

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2016, 08:46:04 PM »
Murahilin

Does that mean the pineapple pleasure scion I got from you sometime ago is a sweet tart? The leaves looks very similar to my sweet tart. Only difference I can tell is that PP graft  has lighter green leaves. Can anyone else confirm if my graft is indeed a PP?



I don't think I've shared any budwood from my PP tree. I think the budwood that I've shared came from Patrick's tree. But its still a possibility so you should keep an eye on it.

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2016, 09:29:44 PM »
Sap smell is the best way to identify PP vs ST. Break off a leaf and smell the sap that exudes from the petiole. ST has south east asian smell (coca cola). PP has citrus smell. The difference is very distinct.
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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2016, 11:26:41 PM »
Sap smell is the best way to identify PP vs ST. Break off a leaf and smell the sap that exudes from the petiole. ST has south east asian smell (coca cola). PP has citrus smell. The difference is very distinct.

I've tried, but I'm not good with differentiating sap smells. I can notice huge differences but not the subtle stuff. Since you said it's distinct I'm going to try again.

Sap flow is supposed to be strongest in the morning, would you recommend leaf smelling then? Or have you found it to not matter what time of the day?

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Re: Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure Immature Fruit
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2016, 12:56:00 PM »
ha, I never tried it in the morning. There are certain months of the year in which the smell is stronger. It seems like it gets stronger towards the summer.

Sap smell is the best way to identify PP vs ST. Break off a leaf and smell the sap that exudes from the petiole. ST has south east asian smell (coca cola). PP has citrus smell. The difference is very distinct.

I've tried, but I'm not good with differentiating sap smells. I can notice huge differences but not the subtle stuff. Since you said it's distinct I'm going to try again.

Sap flow is supposed to be strongest in the morning, would you recommend leaf smelling then? Or have you found it to not matter what time of the day?
Jeff  :-)

 

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