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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: white sapote bark split in half
« on: October 15, 2020, 08:35:21 AM »
If you put the branches back together before the wound dried out, you can wrap it with plastic for a couple of months, to retain moisture and promote healing, and add some strap or duct tap over the plastic.  If the plastic won't be shaded well as is, cover it with paper or a leafy pruned  branch.

It has been left 2 days... And the right branch touched the ground so it has probably already dried. The problem is with the winter in the upcoming months... wont the moisture cause rot when the temps are close to 30°F?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: white sapote bark split in half
« on: October 15, 2020, 03:48:57 AM »
This poor tree is having a lot of trouble  :'(
We had pretty strong winds 2 days ago and the plant splited in half... Thankfully above the graft but still looks bad.
There is no sign of weakening the plant but i am not sure how this will affect the plant in the future and specifically during the winter.
I brought the two branches together and i would like some advice on what should i do.
Here are some pics from today.










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: white sapote deficiency
« on: October 15, 2020, 03:41:01 AM »
Possibly a deficiency in Sulfur or Calcium.

I suggest applying gypsum (calcium sulfate) and a full fruit-tree or palm fertilizer, high in micro-nutrients.

Thank you for your advice!
I did what you said and the problem got fixed  ;D



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / white sapote bark split in half
« on: September 26, 2020, 09:04:07 AM »
Does anyone have any idea what deficiency is this? Fe, Mg ? what causes this leaf issue? And should i do something or its normal when small plants push too much growth?







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Citrus General Discussion / Re: What’s all the hype about Bergamont?
« on: September 16, 2020, 03:40:34 AM »
Here in Greece is one of the must have citrus trees! More than grapefruits, kumquats etc.
I does the most amazing sweet! Search greek bergamont sweet recipe.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: whats wrong with my tangelo?
« on: September 14, 2020, 03:36:17 PM »
Sometimes it is things you just don't think of. I know the first water out of my hose is scalding hot sometimes when the hose has been left out.

Yes indeed. The problem is that my water pipe for those plants is on the surface.. so scandling hot for many minutes.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: whats wrong with my tangelo?
« on: September 11, 2020, 01:39:26 AM »
and i just found what the problem was...
The auto irrigation for somereason had changed from morning to afternoun and the water that was falling was boiling hot... ( you could not even touch it). I am glad the plant survived this  :P

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: My Citrus trees
« on: September 11, 2020, 01:37:21 AM »
Hello Luis, i would like to ask you how do you protect your more sensitive citrus such as buddha hand citron in the winter? You get quite lower temps than the ones it should tolerate
Hello my friend, how are you? I never got any problem with my citrus trees regarding low temp. The budda's hand lemon is planted on ground with no protection.
The only citrus that suffers with cold temp is the Chandler pomelo, but it recovers well and fruits every year...

Hello Luiz, i am fine! Thank you very much for your answer. I will definately try citrons now  ;D

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5. "Arkin" carambola (store bought greenish)
4. Kiwi fruit
2. Tangelo
3. "Tommy Atkins" Mango (imported, picked early, preferred)
1. Red Delicious Apple

any specific tangelo variety? or in general tangelos?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: My Citrus trees
« on: September 08, 2020, 01:43:18 AM »
Hello Luis, i would like to ask you how do you protect your more sensitive citrus such as buddha hand citron in the winter? You get quite lower temps than the ones it should tolerate

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: whats wrong with my tangelo?
« on: September 05, 2020, 07:22:14 AM »
Looks like dense soil with a high clay content and the tree is in a bit of a hole. If so did you loosen the area around it? When you plant trees flush or proud or with a shelter does the same the same thing happen? Most fruit trees are not fans of puddles/wells and if fertiliser is accumulating in a ring around the stem it isn't ideal also.

Of course the area around it has loose soil. The soil ph is indeed high but this tangelo compaired to the other citrus i planted yuzu, pomelos etc is doing a lot worse.
Yesterday i saw many buds starting to grow. So maybe it will be healthy again soon.
My only option was to put it in a hole like that.
Because of the slope and the fast draining water not even weeds grow there, unless i do what i have done

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / grafting che on mulberry
« on: August 26, 2020, 11:49:49 AM »
Has anyone grafted successfully che on mulberry?
is it possible?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: whats wrong with my tangelo?
« on: August 25, 2020, 02:16:26 PM »
Fertilize the tree with a fertilizer formula higher in nitrogen and potassium and lower in phosphorous that also has all the trace minerals.  After planting a citrus tree, the only thing to refill the hole with, is the dirt taken out while digging  Do not add any other ingredients..  Actually looking at the picture it looks like the tree is planed in a hole.

Yes it is planted in a hole because it is on a steep slope and it is the only way to hold some water when watering. I know i doesnt look steep from the pic and of course there is no standing water.
I mixed the soil that i took out but also put some manure to help it a little. (the white sapote is planted the same way next to it is doing great)
Thank you for the advice, i will follow it!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: My Citrus trees
« on: August 21, 2020, 01:20:40 PM »
I just got one variegated dekopon... i think i'm getting krazy!   ;D

how much space do you have for other trees!? you have a massive collection so far
Not much... i'm putting them on garden space already...   ;D Krazy Krazy i say...

Haha indeed! i just hope you will start enjoying all those fruits soon! especially the unusual rare ones !!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: My Citrus trees
« on: August 21, 2020, 12:23:33 PM »
I just got one variegated dekopon... i think i'm getting krazy!   ;D

how much space do you have for other trees!? you have a massive collection so far

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: whats wrong with my tangelo?
« on: August 19, 2020, 11:06:59 AM »
What is he fertilizer program that you are providing for this tree?  A newly  planted citrus tree should be fertilized 6 times during the first year, equally spaced apart. 5-times during year two, 4 times during year 3 and 3 times per year thereafter.

It is planted in a mix of soil and manure and i have only once last month added nitrogen (thinking that the original manure was enough)
Should i apply again now?

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Citrus General Discussion / whats wrong with my tangelo?
« on: August 19, 2020, 01:51:21 AM »
Hello, i planted this tangelo in a sunny location and after some months it looks like this



Appart from leaf miner, is it intence sun and heat that causes the leaves to turn yellow or something else?
I have it on the same watering program with my white sapotes and avocadoes that are doing really well.
Should i do something or will it get better with time?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone 9A tropical fruit recommendation
« on: August 11, 2020, 04:40:09 AM »
We definitely don't get that much snowfall. In fact, of there's any snow during winter, that's considered an unusual event. The mountains around are covered with snow though and ground frost is very common all winter and can extend into early April. But it's really strange to me that you get so much snowfall so far down south. How low do your nighttime temperatures get during winter?

The winter here lasts only from January till the end of February. Because my farm is at an altitude of 400m and higher than the surroundings i get no radiation frost in the mornings. Temps usually are bellow 5°C with maybe 20 days bellow 0, but usually the limit is -2°C only for a few hours. The problem is that during the winter day temps dont exceed 6°C usually. with last winter for 3 days in a row max temp being 0.5°C

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone 9A tropical fruit recommendation
« on: August 11, 2020, 03:39:46 AM »
You can probably try a Jaboticaba or Sapodilla, I have not grown a Jabo yet but from what I hear they do excellent here in 9b, and can tolerate a little more. You will have to protect them most likely on those very cold nights. My Hasya sapodilla has proven to be excellent for cold tolerance, we had nights of 25F and it didn't seem affected at all. Maybe I am just lucky with cold tolerance, but it hasn't produced anything and I am probably gonna put something else in its place. I would probably go with Alano because a lot of other people have stated that Hasya just doesn't produce well sometimes. It can be hit or miss. Good luck though!

The problem is, zone 9b in Florida is very different than zone 9b in Europe. In Florida, you've got cold fronts that don't last very long and then you're back to +16C or much higher. In my zone 9b, we can have many consecutive days with temperatures close to freezing or slightly below, with daytime temperatures not exceeding 6 or 7C. Also, winters are wet in our Mediterranean climate so we have the problem of cold wet roots. Also, in my area, the north wind is a big problem.

All of my passion fruit vines completely die during winter. Avocados grown from store bought fruit also die to the ground and so do cherimoyas.

But I'm still experimenting. I've planted white sapote, Surinam cherry and strawberry guava this spring and I intend to try to get them through the first few winters by protecting them and then we'll see what happens after that. I will also try Mexican avocados when my seedlings grow big enough for planting.

Btw, all of the things listed survive with no issues on my large covered balcony in town, but planting them out in the open is a completely different story.

In our area, there's plenty of citrus, figs, pomegranates, loquats, persimmons and jujubes. They really thrive here so for us, other things are more interesting.

That is really interesting, i am in the same zone, near Athens Greece and i get every year for maybe 4-5 days snowfall and all my passionfruits, even the more exposed ones do not even defoliate. Also my store bought avocado seedlings only one month all didnt even notice the winter. So i am guessing cold wet roots make a huge difference.
I hope you do not have such cold wet conditions during winter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone 9A tropical fruit recommendation
« on: August 09, 2020, 07:39:23 AM »
I have also read about cold hardy avocados like Fantastic, that might grow in my zone outdoors. Any thoughts?

If you can find any cold hardy avocado variety in Europe tell me, its quite hard. But in my experience varieties such as fuerte can be quite hardy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone 9A tropical fruit recommendation
« on: August 08, 2020, 11:27:43 PM »
SeaWalnut - you grow pink guava outdoors in ground or in pot?
johnb51 - no I have never eaten white sapote, but I have read it's fantastic, don't know its fruiting time but will search for seeds

You should be able to find seeds the next month. Maybe even now

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone 9A tropical fruit recommendation
« on: August 08, 2020, 06:37:15 AM »
you could try ordinary guava but i dont think it will make it. What i usually do is plant seeds from any trees that i am not sure if they can make it (seeds are cheap) and if they survive easily i go and buy a grafted good variety tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID this tree
« on: August 08, 2020, 06:35:09 AM »
neem tree?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone 9A tropical fruit recommendation
« on: August 08, 2020, 04:45:14 AM »
Many different citrus, you should be good even with oranges maybe just maybe grapefruit.
Also strawberry guavas,
Avocado, Maybe white sapote, passionfruit, cherry of the rio grande, surinam cherry, guabiju.
If you consider loquat and pomegranate tropical they should do just fine

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grapevine in shade
« on: August 02, 2020, 09:20:06 AM »
The main problem will be production and deseases. But the way you describe it, it should be fine. the fruit doesnt need too much sun, only the leaves

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