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My Julie seedling is (was) actually three trunks like the one on GW ( I took the northeast trunk off as it was a runt) the other two trunks spread apart 2' from the dirt and are are aligned east and west. The majority of fruit set (~60-70%) is on the south side with the balance on the rest of the tree. My Glenn also has a similar fruit set pattern even though the south side has already grown into my Kajang carambola.

I would imagine this dense planting scheme would work best with later blooming varieties that would get sun more sunlight (in the northern hemisphere) later in the summer when the sun is more directly overhead?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Return to the earth
« on: February 28, 2015, 10:38:54 PM »
I think it's a bit creepy eating a banana where a relative was scattered, but I'll probably want my ashes scattered in my yard too.

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Thank you all, poor persimmon is finally at its new spot, after losing quite some soil from the rootball with regret. We tried our best, now fingers crossed it on survival / recovery.

I moved three trees since last year, all without losing any soil.

I lay a large X shaped swath of burlap cloth next to the tree on the dirt, dig a trench around the root ball and wrap the root ball in another length of burlap. As I dragged the root ball onto the cloth I closed the burlap wrapping. Once on the swath, I wrap and tie it over the root ball.

In your case it seems as if the orchards ship persimmon bare root so I don't think you'll have an issue because you lost dirt. I personally feel better knowing I didn't disturb the roots and the soil isn't something the tree has to adjust to.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "treated with irradiation?"
« on: February 28, 2015, 01:17:41 PM »
i recently purchased some mexican cream guavas at an ethnic produce market.  their label tells me they were "treated with irradiation."  i was thinking of starting a couple dozen seeds and wondered if the irradiation will affect the seed viability. 
it is my understanding that irradiation is an anti-fruit fly measure.  does anyone have any knowledge of the levels of radiation involved?  if the radiation level is high enough to kill fruit flies, is that high enough to kill plant germ material in the seeds?  will the radiation increase the chance of mutation (frankenguava?)?
more questions than answers!
i guess the first thing is to plant the seeds and see if they germinate.

Just so you know, Lowes here in s. Florida is selling Mexican cream guava plants some already flowering for $8.00. I bought several.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Nice 15g loquats in So. Fla
« on: February 28, 2015, 09:13:12 AM »
How is that variety--Supreme?

Mine are just ripening, but the ones I sampled at Charlie's were large, sweet and juicy. I plan on grafting this one into a cocktail tree

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rootstock for mango
« on: February 28, 2015, 08:04:27 AM »
Patrick,

kaew lerm korn is a daytime soap in Asia, I think BK is pulling noses.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rootstock for mango
« on: February 27, 2015, 11:58:57 PM »
Rob,

That's definitely a step in the right direction :-)


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rootstock for mango
« on: February 27, 2015, 10:37:40 PM »
There is delayed graft compatibility with certain rootstock and scion combinations.

Yup, I see it every once in a while. My Pickering has a rootstock is twice the girth of the pickering scion, it looks weird. You would think that after all these years there would be more knowledge gained from things like this. But perhaps in the case of the pickering, this could be what influences its dwarf characteristics?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White sapote
« on: February 27, 2015, 12:54:01 PM »
Both Excalibur and Bender's have Jaboticaba. If you buy one get the largest you can afford, the reward of the fruit sooner is worth the extra money :-)

Your being in homestead Bender is closer, but I'm sure there are some to be had closer to you. Excalibur is an experience that, if you haven't been there it's worth the trip at least once.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Fertilizing 0-0-50
« on: February 27, 2015, 11:36:16 AM »
For you folks living in south Florida, these guys in Pompano beach are just off the interstate and near the turnpike and have 50 lb bags of sulphate of potash and more.

http://universalsupplycorp.com

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Ice Cream and Julie are re-blooming after a poor fruit set from the initial 2015 season bloom :D .

My Julie seedling looks like it has fireworks exploding on it the little fruits are so large!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Disease in pickering buds?
« on: February 27, 2015, 11:22:39 AM »
My little pickering hasn't grown much (if any) since I bought it ~2-3 years ago. Last fall I looked it over closely and while the existing leaves were pristine, the leaf buds erupting from the stems were all dried and dead. Since then as prophylactic measures I've alternately sprayed copper and neem after rains and today there are finally many new healthy leaves and a couple of flower flushes.  My watering and fertilizer regimen has not changed.

What could have caused bloom die out?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rootstock for mango
« on: February 27, 2015, 11:08:11 AM »
The link below list a number of rootstock and their uses.  Don't they have calcareous soils in some parts of south Florida?

https://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/mango_ars.html

"A polyembryonic seedling, 'No. 13-1', introduced into Israel from Egypt in 1931, has been tested since the early 1960's in various regions of the country for tolerance of calcareous soils and saline conditions. It has done so well in sand with a medium (15%) lime content and highly saline irrigation water (over 600 ppm) that it has been adopted as the standard rootstock in commercial plantings in salty, limestone districts of Israel. Where the lime content is above 30%, iron chelates are added."

While just about everything needed to know to grow great mango is already known, this is the type of science I expect to be of more interest.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White sapote
« on: February 27, 2015, 11:04:24 AM »
I want to diversify my tropical fruit tree collection and interested in white sapote.  I already have mangoes, avocados, bananas, and  papayas. 
What cultivar do you recommend?   I only plan to plant one tree at this time.  Do they need another pollinator?   

I am very worried about potential systemic disease problems so my plan is to diversify.  Other possible plants to include are dragon fruit, loquat, and malberry.

Loquat and mulberry are trouble free. My mulberry produces a lot of fruit. I have two loquat, the Christmas flowered a lot in previous years but never set more than one or two fruits till this year and I think it's because I hand pollinated every night.

I've heard a lot about white sapote not liking wet feet, well my SES2 doesn't like wet, or dry feet because in the years it's been in the ground it has had a complete die back to bare stems a couple of times per year with me trying to find a balance of water and fertilizer. If I didn't have this much effort in it, I'd pull it and put a Jabo in its place.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Acerola fruit split
« on: February 26, 2015, 05:35:05 PM »
Maybe soil, weather, variety differences? Mine are only picked fully ripe and the grass smell is unmistakeable... So much so it's hard to drink it as a juice it can really put me off.

But, the juice flavor is worth any olfactory discomfort :-)





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rootstock for mango
« on: February 26, 2015, 04:38:24 PM »
I've read a bunch and seen a lot of video on grafting, but not specifically much about rootstock selection for mango grafting.

Q1. Is there as "superhero" preferred cultivar to use as global rootstock?
Q2. Do any cultivars used as rootstock have dwarfing influence?
Q3. Do scions from a polyembryonic tree do best with a rootstock from a polyembryonic parent?
Q4. Same question for monoembryonic
Q5. Can you mix poly/mono scion rootstock with impunity?
Q6. Does disease resistance / susceptibility of a rootstock impart any good / bad qualities to the scion?
Q6. Are there any preferred rootstock(s) for soil types and or weather conditions eg. sandy, clay, soil moisture, salt resistance etc.?

There's a wealth of knowledge dedicated to the graft union and above, but little to none (that I found) on the Q's above.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Acerola fruit split
« on: February 26, 2015, 06:25:54 AM »
Funny that you perceive a rose scent, mine are more fresh cut grass. When you get a goodly amount the juice is excellent!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Acerola fruit split
« on: February 25, 2015, 09:47:09 PM »
I've noticed that on some of mine too. I attributed it to water uptake after a rain.  Like you I'm not selling... jeez, I don't even get to eat many neighbors get them before I do.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: peat moss what is it good for ?
« on: February 25, 2015, 05:51:19 PM »
I buy one of the big bricks every couple of months and mix it in 1/3's with lowes cheap compost and top soil and rake / hoe it into my soil around my trees. I also use this mix as potting mix. My stuff thrives and I'm happy :-)

PS, I've been raking this mix into the soil all around my SES2 white sapote and it's made a remarkable comeback from near death. Time will tell on this one.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: February 25, 2015, 05:39:45 PM »
Since I got her at Benders, she dropped a bunch of leaves, guessing from the cold. Still debating on where to plant her or keep her in pot, need to do a bunch more research and questions till I decide as my soil is very alkaline.  So either gotta figure out how to bring it down enough to keep her happy. Watering is not a problem as where I plan to plant her has a hose feet away.  I noticed today a BUNCH of new growth, and some peeling on the main barks (not sure if that means a good thing or bad thing) What is the expected final container size for a mature Red Jabo and how often does it need to be repotted once mature? At what point would you attack it with the shears to prune it? Wait for this growth to fully flush before nipping branches?

I went to Benders recently and bought a pair of smaller bushy blue and red jabos and they did not defoliate (they're in the ground) and I'm ~30 miles north of you. I'm thinking maybe it wasn't the cold but it wanting a re-pot. Have you pulled it from the pot to check the roots?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: February 25, 2015, 05:34:24 PM »
" but never had a fresh coffee berry"

I have 8 coffee bushes (4 producing coffee) and the pulp between the skin and bean is sweet and mostly tasteless, with a sort of woody undertone. If any fruit was described like that I wouldn't buy it. The bean is IMO inedible and unusable till roasted.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Carambola tree is Dying, help?
« on: February 23, 2015, 08:47:33 PM »
My tree gets it every year -- fairly badly actually. I just ignore and I still get prodigious crops.

Yup, +1.

My 3 trees all get it and it just flakes off and the trees produce heavily. If your tree is dying I doubt that's the cause

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I have a 4' tall persimmon tree planted at an absolutely wrong spot. I would like to dig it out and move to a sunnier spot in the yard, is it better to do it when dormant (it has zero leaves right now just like my very fruitful jujube tree), or later in the year when it hopefully has some leaves? This poor thing is barely hanging on, I doubt it grew any for the past 2 years in the ground... Many thanks!!!

(sorry Mod, just realized persimmon is not a tropical tree, oops)

There's lots of chatter about persimmon here, especially with new cultivars selected for areas like south Florida. Anyway, the two nurseries that I know of that ship a lot of persimmon do it in their dormant period. See treesofantiquity and willis orchards.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing mangoes in raised beds?
« on: February 23, 2015, 01:37:37 AM »
I'm in Osceola county and can't seem to find a source of compost besides mushroom compost.

Lowes has a "Cow manure / Compost" that I use. It's less than $2 per bag.

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