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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Grafting Mamey (Pouteria sapota)
« on: April 10, 2012, 12:10:37 AM »
JF, there is good info on this book. Maybe we can use the most effective method to graft our Mameys according to the book. Nice find murahilin.

I read capitulo nueve *propagacion vegetativa* that's interesting stuff but Greg got great instructions from Frankies on how to graft a Mamey. I believe both seedlings he grafted are pushing so I'm going to stick with Frankies instructions.

JF

Mod edit: Original Post with Pouteria book http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=428.0

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thanks Jeff
I will try your suggestions. This has occur in a few the rest are still holding



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The most important variables in grafting are: time of year, type of graft, quality of cut, cleanliness of instruments, sharpness of blade, quality of rootstock and quality of scion. Once you've got those things down, then the type of securing tape and type of moisture barrier are insignificant. The main goal is to make sure you've secured the scion and roostock together in a way in which the cambium layers are touching and to ensure that the scion is not allowed to dehydrate nor receive outside during the healing process. Whether this is done with bands, green tape, plastic bag, etc is largely irrelevant.

Hi Jeff

I have been very successful grafting annoas this year. I've notice some of the grafts that pushed new growth real fast have turned black and died. Why is this happening and should I leave the graft alone to see if it pushes again?

JF

example

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Here are some of the guava cuttings that I rooted last year. Notice that the wood is still quadrangular. Huge roots form in the vermiculite, but very little activity above the soil level. The cuttings are placed on potting soil for contrast. Use vermiculite instead of soil to root them. Vermiculite suppresses fungus growth unlike soil, and it encourages root growth because it allow lots of oxygen to be present in the root zone. In 30 days pull on the stem if it pulls out roots have not formed yet.



Here is what those same plants look like today.



Flower buds forming already.




so you plant it on a 1 gallon with vermiculite not pete moss and place it in my flowerhouse?? those are about the same size as my 1 year old + seedlings on the ground but I will experiment.




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perfect. thanks for the pics

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cogshall Mango in fruit
« on: April 08, 2012, 11:22:58 AM »
Noel, that's a very nice compact tree that the reason I bough mine. Thanks for sharing the pics.
JF

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The best way to propagate guavas is using newly formed green wood just before it turns brown. Get a 4-6" piece, cut off the sappy new growth at the top, and remove all leaves from bottom of stem. Leave between 2-4 leaves at the top but trim those in half. Dip in rooting hormone, place in vermiculite, and move to a mist chamber. In about 30 days roots form. This is how guavas are being propagated in the commercial nurseries. I rooted 12 cuttings last year, one of them now has a bud forming.

sounds easier than airlayering I'm going to try it. Thanks Enduser.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Extending the Mango Season
« on: April 07, 2012, 07:34:56 PM »
...my experience so far has been KEITT by a long shot, where I live in SoCal.  THey really do hang on the tree a Looooooooong time. The last one I had last year was on Thanksgiving, and I picked that while it was still green a couple weeks before that....and I think I first one was in late Sept.....for me this is such an ideal mango for season spreading......

ANd so sweetly complex and fiberless.....mmm.......mmm.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



You are right MangoDog. I had my first keitt in Oct. and the other one around thanksgiving.My Mallika flowers twice in my area, In early Feb and late July. I had my last Malika on Christmas day.

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I don't want your money Belh. I will send you seeds from my guavas this year. If you want fruiting trees there is Roger Meyer and Exotica. they have 25-30 cultivars between them and they are very cheap.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: April 06, 2012, 10:37:05 PM »
Hello everyone
I had Mr. Minh's atemoya today what a treat it was! The fruit had unbelievable fragrant....fill the entire kitchen with a pleasant aroma ,  The texture was chewy, like most atemoya I have tried, but very juicy,sweet , refreshing, slightly grainy near the skin.  A custard lemony taste, not acidic, with few seeds . I've tried the VA last year but from the fridge this was special. Can' wait for my tree to grow up.





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No problem Phucvu,
most stuff goes out USPS priority so shipping just depends on what you get.  One person paid about $9 for their shipping another is paying close to $40.

Thank you JF, I'm still waiting on some things for you but let me know if you need anything else.

-Ethan

tempting but....no thanks Ethan. I have too many things going on. I love to grow some of those garcinas and lichis I just don't have the room.  Thanks for the offer.

JF

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I came across Malaysian Red Guava at Lowe's last night. More I read about it more I want to get one. Question for guava lowers/growers, which Pink/Red Guava is the best in terms of best taste, juiciness, sweetness, and soft seeds.

Does anyone has extra scions that could be shared? Right now most Guava's are starting to go dormant or coming out of dormancy. Perfect time to graft as well.

let's see....thai maroon, ruby X, indian red, hong kong pink, tropical pink etc.  I have a few more reds from Michoacan and Colima MX. btw,  malaysian red is an excellent guava.

JF

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Ok Jay and Guanabanus your wish is my command LOL I rounded up a shadecloth from the garage, that came with my flowerhouse, and secured it with clothespins and bungee cords. I'm going to have to buy another piece for the back of the tree but we are going to be in the mid 80's for the weekend so I need to protect the grafts from the hot and dry California sun.

JF


shadecloth was not large enough







 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fieldcraft Topgrafter Tool in Action
« on: April 05, 2012, 09:48:50 PM »
Greg

they work good with annonas but with a thicker rootstock, My friend got one of those Omega tools last year and none of his mangos that he grafted with it took.


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Looks like a great job of grafting, but you always need 70-80% shade over plastic bags.


Thank you Guanabanus, I will remove the plastic bags. What about the paper bags with plastic bags?

JF

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Oranges Color and Taste Comparison
« on: April 05, 2012, 08:43:29 PM »
My Moros are on the small size this year....very juicy but not very raspberry like taste like last year, a bit sour. They were ready by this time last year. I'll give them a few more weeks.



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Roger Meyer is one of the nicest dude in the biz and very knowable. I highly recommend him.

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Thanks Ethan, Jay, Tim and Belh. They all have parafilm. I was adviced to take those paper bags off, since they are expose to full sun, or poke holes. I will take Jay's advice and cover the trees with a  shade cloth. BTW Jay, do you get a lot of fruits from your multi-grafted cherimoya?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: April 05, 2012, 07:57:05 PM »
That's a fierce looking fruit, Joe.  Is that little tree the one he grafted and sold you?  Guess my chance of getting budwood is better through you.  Anyways, no hurry, I've been slow starting up my rootstocks. Maybe next season when your tree has some growth.

yes, Tim it looks like an african tortoise. Mr.Minh told me to take it to my bedroom you can smell when its ready......a sweet smelling fruit, very unique taste also.

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Paper is especially good at retaining heat so fat chance of you baking your scions in them  :-[

Oh no! thanks for the advice Tim.

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Here is a picture of a 16oz. mangosteen and a 32oz. marang plus a standard soda can.



Most the stuff in 16oz and 32oz (plus 1 gal durian) is about 8-9mo. old, the larger 1-2 gallon stuff is about 20 mo. and I think the oldest are the chempedak and macadamias at about 3yrs.

let me know if you have anymore questions,
-Ethan

Very nice Ethan! I wish I had room for all those. I'm still interested.
JF

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I send pics of my grafted trees to Mr Minh. He suggested a big umbrella over the trees because it's heating up into the 80's. Will this work better than aluminum foil?suggestions? My neighbors are giving me a weird look......tick-or-treat LOL


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here is my tree that I pruned. waiting on Scoins now to graft onto.


Joe, you got any scions left or all done?

Very nice job Belh. you will get your second shipment of scion on Saturday.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: April 04, 2012, 08:01:52 PM »
Hi JF, any chance of getting a budwood of this baby?

Hi Belh

Mr Minh has been very stingy with his budwood he gave me 2 small piece and that has been distributed and grafted. I did not want to push it with him so you will have to wait till next year. Expect your second shipment of scion from me by Saturday. Here is a pic of my VA that I bought from Mr. Minh after I removed all the leave. New branches and leaves have emerge so I'm hoping the tree will double its size by this time next year,

JF


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: April 03, 2012, 11:39:09 PM »
When to Minh's house Monday. Missed out on the giant fruits they all went to his family and friends but he gave me a beautiful fruit just under two pounds. When it ripen I will post it and give you my critic.

JF
next to a medium size white

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