The Tropical Fruit Forum

He's been renting from the wood stove place next door forever.
there is no water on the exotica site so they run water from the wood stove place to the 3 acre nursery site, and the adjacent 3 acre grove.
There is another 3 acres where the cherimoya grove, lychee grove, kei apples and pome fruit grove is. that was bought by a friend of Steve's 10 or so years ago and then "rented" to Steve so he could keep the groves going. by "rented" I mean he wasn't paying the rent so the owner was interested in selling, but I think he saw value in that epic lychee grove and also the fact that Steve see's that property and all the tree's he planted as his friends, so no-one could really buy that piece and do anything with it without freezing out Steve, who still rents the 3 acres next door where the nursery is. My buddy was in negotiation to buy that 3 acres next to the nursery years ago but realized it was Steve's no matter whose name was on title.
I hope they can move the nursery there, but like I said there is no water . I hope Steve can keep doing the nursery if he wants to.
Somebody please rescue the Paul Thompson jaboticaba.

I doubt it will be a problem. They grow like a weed in the tropics but in So Cal I wouldn't worry about it.

I was thinking HoneyHart has a distinct fruit shape and appearance , often looking like a strawberry shape with more sugar apple looking skin .
But, I think overall Cherimoya is a fruit where 2 fruits hanging on the same tree can look completely different. Some with protuberances and some smooth on the same tree.
I do think there are characteristics that stick out to help narrow it down but ultimately there is a ton of cultivars,  and with lots of pollen making crosses ( my Inca Red is never red, pollinated by another cultivar) I think it's just an exercise but hard to be definitive .

There is no 99 ranch , nor any asian markets anywhere in Santa Cruz County.

try and find them a shadier , cooler spot with less wind and give it a go.
Also you could graft onto Mamey , that could help as well.
They are grafted onto Mamey commercially in Florida.

I think it’s just not cold tolerant.
I’d love to hear otherwise from someone that planted out a seedling in So Cal in the last 5 years or so. A bunch got out there awhile ago.

Good update Nate!
I want to get guinense grafted onto the weedy guavajava round here. I have some topped and ready.
P. Striatcchhh is settling in in ground on it's own roots.
Maybe Robustum will graft to guavajava or strawbs.

Psidium robustum: Super delicious fruit with no tannins.  Tones of Banana in this fruit. Very sweet with no tartness nor tannic bitterness found in some other species such as longipetiolatum or cattleianum.

Psidium guinense x: A potential hybrid guinense species. Species confirmed by Leslie Landrum, who believes it to be a guinense or possible hybrid of.  Fruit was delicious. Very nice tart/sweet ratio with only a couple of seeds and lots of flesh! A really beautiful and low growing, but slow plant. Large showy  flowers and absolutely something I want to grow a lot more of.


Psidium longipetiolatum is really not a particularly great fruit. The tree bears heavily, drops sporadically unripe and ripe fruit.  The fruit has a strong tannic eucalyptus-y flavor that is mainly in the skin. The pulp itself is pretty good but ultimately not sure it's really a winner in my book.

It's been fruited in Iceland and Russia as well.
I don't think you'll find a huge variation in temperature tolerance.
The main trick, as with any other tropical that doesn't like it below 50 degree's, is getting the fruit to hold & grow & sweeten over winter .

I think Seanny is onto something with the inter stock graft being a great idea.

A. Montana pollen must not be compatible, likely previously tried and documented by Har on the forum somewhere.

soursop has been fruited in north san diego.  *pats self on back for saving that video in a playlist*

coincidentally, today a guy doing some work on my house showed me a pic of his soursop tree here in the los angeles area.  it had a bunch of fruits on it last year but they didn't survive the long winter.  he said that he grew it from seed from nayarit.  i gave him a 5 gallon nanche as down-payment for future seeds/scions from his soursop.

how much variation in temp tolerance is there among soursops from different locations?  i have small seedlings from florida, costa rica and oaxaca mexico.  so far i haven't tested any outside over the winter.

it's surprising that i haven't heard of anyone crossing soursop with mountain soursop.

Does Panoramic have a storefront or how do you reach them?
I was staying in Mayaguez , I called and left messages and never heard back from them.

Panoramic fruit company in Mayaguez sells mangosteen, durian, longan, langsat, rambutan and pulasan. They may have others as well, you can call and ask. Although I think the season is over for most of these now.

https://www.panoramicfruit.com/

Jardines Eneida is the tropical fruit nursery in Cabo Rojo. They used to sell fruit as well, but I’m not sure they still do.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php/?id=100063605917340

Here are some screenshots of this short and sweet info download that was recently posted on TFF.
I sent the link to everyone I know interested in Casimiroa and have yet to discuss with anyone. I think it’s fascinating and am curious on what other Casimiroa enthusiasts think about this.





 

What about Lammertz , Suebelle and other Fuzzy/ Wooly C. Edulis's?
Did you read the recent genetic research from Japan someone posted recently saying C. Edulis and C.tetrameria are no different genetically?

Fishie, you can tell from the leaves. The yellow sapote leaves have the fuzzy/wooly bottom side so it's pretty easy to tell. But no, you can't look at the seed and differentiate between the white and yellow seeds.

Your best bet for scions is TFF.