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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2013, 06:09:50 PM »
I tried 5 Pickering mangos.  1 was very good and the other four had a very off flavor, not sure why.

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2013, 06:47:01 PM »
I had a couple early season Pickering that were quite bland.  I had another larger Pickering last weekend that was very rich and had much more flavor.  They do seem to be variable.  This season is so out of sync that fruits are ripening outside their normal window and may not be a good representation of their "normal" flavors.

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2013, 07:53:43 PM »
Rob did you write this

I have tasted pineapple pleasure...not a big fan of it and nowhere in ft he same league as coco cream, LZ and Orange Sherbert.  Harvest Moon is a much better mango than pneapple pleasure and Ugly Betty rivals Coco cream, LZ and OS.  I would put Pineapple Pleasure in the same "league" as Fruit Punch and Sweet Tart.
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2013, 08:35:42 PM »
Rob did you write this

I have tasted pineapple pleasure...not a big fan of it and nowhere in ft he same league as coco cream, LZ and Orange Sherbert.  Harvest Moon is a much better mango than pneapple pleasure and Ugly Betty rivals Coco cream, LZ and OS.  I would put Pineapple Pleasure in the same "league" as Fruit Punch and Sweet Tart.
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Okay.  I'm going to try to be your editor:
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2013, 08:48:41 PM »
If you don't like pineapple or acidic fruit you probably wont like Pineapple Pleasure mango.  I have had a few this year and last and was pretty impressed at how much the color, flavor, and texture remind me of actual pineapple.  Another redeeming quality is they are almost twice the size of most other mangoes! 

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2013, 02:50:37 PM »
PP on par size wise with a Lancetilla? Is it fiberless as well?

I had my 3rd Pickering off of my tree for the season and it was excellent. Rich, sweet, dense flesh, juicy, and I did pick up on some very subtle coconutty flavor in it. Going to give one to a friend and see if they pick up on anything without the power of suggestion. Thus far, Pickering has been the highlight of my mango season. Also got a ripe Neelam (in June :O ) from my tree (first time bearing). Anxious to taste this one.
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2013, 03:28:15 PM »
1st pickering off my tree (first fruit ever off of it!) and it was absolutely delicious. Fragrant, rich, very mango-y and a pronounce "tropical" after taste akin to coconut. was a bit on the small size at an estimated 8 to 10 oz, there are 3 more fruit on it that are much larger.

My coworker has a few full sized ~15-20 year old mango trees on his property. He doesn't know their variety but i believe the two I got fruit off of to be a Haden and a Glenn (Glenn identification is 95% confidence). The Haden's have been disgusting. Insipid, tons of internal issues. I was thinking they were tommies because of the fiber and insipid flavor but the coloration and breakdown issues make me think it is Haden. The Glenns were variable, some a bit north of good, some bland and so-so.
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2013, 04:04:00 PM »
Yes, I did write that about the pineapple pleasure basedb on last years fruit that were groen in central/western palm beach county.  I have eaten a half dozen or so that were grown east of sea crest, in soft sand close to the ocean, and they were excellent.  If you letvthem get a litgle overripe they lose some of their acidity.

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2013, 08:08:51 AM »
PP on par size wise with a Lancetilla? Is it fiberless as well?

I think PP is closer to Keitt in typical weight than to Lancetilla.  I would not say it's fiberless, but the fiber is minimal. Caveat:  a modest amount of fiber doesn't bother me at all.

I've been very impressed by the flavor of the Sweet Tart mangos I bought from eastern Palm Beach County.  But Rob has me wondering if they (or PP) would do as well in my location. Since I don't have room for the trees I already own, I may have to be content with buying them.

Edit:  Walter Zill told me that Sweet Tart has more problems with fungus, even in his growing conditions. Perhaps a good spraying program would compensate for my growing conditions, but I think I'll hold off on this cultivar for now.

Edit: brave words, but I'm going to plant Sweet Tart and hope for the best.

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2013, 06:36:02 AM »
Stopped by TT last Saturday and bought 28lbs of the mangoes they had. Thus far ZIC (or ZINC) really impressed me. Flesh was firm like a Choc-anon/ Flourigon. The mango dosent let go it of juice when cutting. But once you bit into it, the juicy sweetness just rushes out, and has a chalky mouth feel to it that I just looove. This mango was outstanding. I would plant it.
2nd and 3rd were Dot and Valencia Pride. VP reminds me of a milder Pickering, but none the less was very good.
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2013, 05:39:42 PM »
I've been to TT many times this summer but have never seen the Dots displayed.

Is there a secret handshake involved?

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2013, 10:40:15 PM »
 ;D hehe. Yep. But it must be done early in the morning when they open. They didnt have much that Saturday morning when I was there. About 5-6 and quite honestly, I was surprised at their size. They were huge. Slightly bigger than the ZIC (ZINC) . Just had the lone Alphonoso they had.....it was really very good. Very sweet and creamy then all of a sudden, a sharp tart flavor (but sweet) just registered in my brain as I was eating a different part of the mango. I think I like this mango more than Neelam. Its a bigger mango too with more flesh to eat. Where would I put this tree now. :-\
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2013, 04:07:11 PM »
I gave a ZIC / ZINC  mango to a coworker today. He said it was the most awesome mango he's had in years.    Of course, he doesn't get out much  ;)

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2013, 04:41:35 PM »
I thought it's ZINC (Zill Indo-Chinese)?

Dan, your comments always crack me up  ;D
I gave a ZIC / ZINC  mango to a coworker today. He said it was the most awesome mango he's had in years.    Of course, he doesn't get out much  ;)
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2013, 07:48:57 PM »
Thanks, Tim.

At TT the Zill Indochinese had ZIC written on them, just a shorter abbreviation I guess.

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2013, 11:40:34 AM »
zinc is basically just an oversized fairchild. sweet tart (a seedling of zinc) is better in my opin, as it ripens more evenly than the zinc.
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2013, 01:56:26 PM »
Are the fruit size of ZIC and Sweet Tart the same?
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2013, 05:31:56 PM »
In keeping with the essence of the thread title, my mango season was pushed back this year due to the cold snap in March.

I've been eating mango every day for the past month.

Right now my early mangos are just about done but got tons of Glenn. Rosigold, and Cogshall.  All three taste great and produced well this  year.

The off brands that I've been eating are gary, pickering, florigon, fairchild, and ice cream.   I've eaten a couple Mallika and they are THE BEST. 

Still holding on the trees are Kent, Valencia Pride, Mallika, jakarta, and Gary.  Some cogshall are still holding but they are almost done.

My lancetilla tasted great this year, but almost gone due to rodent damage.  Lancetilla is a terrible one to grow. They taste good, but have problems with softnose, and being too big to hold on the tree. Plus they are colorful early so the rodents see them and pick at them before they are ready.

Trees that didn't produce for me this year: imam pasand, tebow, nam doc mai. 

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2013, 11:22:14 PM »
Z.I.C. = the first letters of the constituent words:  Zill, Indo-, and Chinese.

ZINC is a Walter Zill expression of humor.
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2013, 11:46:29 PM »
I only had a few different types of mangos this year but I would say fairchild, dot & by far the best this year was a fresh picked carrie from Jeff's tree OMG never wanted to stop eating it!
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2014, 11:58:26 PM »
I was just reading through some old threads and noticed that many people listed Po Pyu Kalay as one of their favorite mango tasted last year. I thought that a Lemon Zest was the new and improved version of PPK? Don't they taste similar with Lemon Zest being sweeter and better tasting flavor wise? Or perhaps the people that listed PPK as one of their favorites last year have not tasted the Lemon Zest? Are Lemon Zest and PPK different enough flavor wise to warrant planting both varieties in an already cramped yard? Thanks for any feedback!
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2014, 01:44:29 AM »
For me and possibly some other forum members,  it was easier to find PPK mangos to taste than to find Lemon Zest.  When I finally got to taste a prime LZ, it was exquisite.  But a good PPK is a darn fine mango as well.

By this time there may be forum members who can compare the two as far as production, disease resistance, and consistency of flavor.

My robust 8-foot tall LZ has a half dozen fruit the size of peas, from one panicle.   And it's starting to push lots of vegetative growth.  ???

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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2014, 07:22:19 PM »
Most folks haven't tried the LZ. The fact that it: a) is new and b) is not precocious / takes several years to start producing means that we probably won't see a spike in LZ enthusiasm for several years.
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2014, 01:19:34 AM »
Thanks for the information Mangomandan and Cookie Monster! I'm really looking forward to try my first Lemon Zest. I'm glad the tree is not precocious because my major problem growing mangos in Southern California is that my mangoes keep trying to bloom and hold fruit.
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Re: Tastes triumphant, dreams dashed: the mango season so far
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2014, 07:08:34 AM »
Had Cookie Monster merely over-nighted his LZ fruit to all interested forum members, this delay could have been avoided.

 

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