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natal plum





eugenia repanda, eugenia pyriformis, psidium cattleianum red, almonds










I am doing mermelade with uvaia, strawberry guava, ñangapiré negro and even the pulp of the almonds...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / more jaboticabas do ID
« on: February 12, 2018, 01:21:38 PM »
Hi, in this first too photos, they look like coronata or trunciflora to me:





And in the next photo the new growth seems similar to red hybrid (the color and by the remarkable ribs)... but I dont know, the leaves are more elongated than my red hybrids... so... ¿?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / inga spectabilis sprouting
« on: February 11, 2018, 11:05:05 AM »
I am very happy about this:









I assume that they will prefer some shade now when they are small, or half shade, not full sun ...

maybe I should enter them in my house in winter, since they are quite tropical? Will I do as I do with guanabana?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / can you ID this garcinia?
« on: February 04, 2018, 11:15:12 AM »
The tree is from Misiones, maybe 3 or 4 years old. I have 2 more of them, they dont like full sun or wind.












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Tropical Fruit Discussion / I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 24, 2018, 03:49:45 PM »
During these weeks I harvested approx 60 fruits of uvaia from different trees, it was not such a big crop but it was enough for me to make tests: the juice has a similar flavor to passion fruit, although maybe a little less strong ... the fruit opens and gives off a aromatic juice that, with sugar, is very good (you even dont need to include the rest of the pulp and skin).


Then I kept the fruits in the fridge to make a jam that was extremely delicious and has nothing to envy to the best jams on earth. The flavor reminds me a bit of the tropical guava but also has shades of passion fruit, orange, ubajay and mango. I would say that it is clearly tropical, strong and interesting. The color is also attractive because it does not remain brown as it happens with many other fruits, but orange.



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New seeds and species, fresh janyuary 2018 harvest, please let me know if you are interested in cocona (solanum sessilimflorum), averrhoa bilimbi, tamarindus indica, dovyalis hebecarpa, physalis peruviana or solanum quitoense and I will put a price for them too.


* black Eugenia Repanda (harvesting now, then later on march and april) (cheaper than 2017):
5 seeds USD 12,
10 seeds USD 20
20 seeds USD 38

This small and hardy bush likes shade and bears small cherry like (acid and sweet) fruits, it could be in full sun, semi shaded spot or full shade: it will fruit anywhere. Frost resistance: -6ºC

I have a very rare variety: ripe fruits are almost black! Normally, eugenia repanda use to be red.





* sweet Uvaia (eugenia pyriformis or hybrid x e. lutescens) [second harvest]

Big (4cm diameter), rounded shaped fruits (not so pear shaped, more flattened), juicy and tasty, 12º Brix. It flowers 2 times: spring and summer. The perfume of the flowers is one of the best I know (along with citrus flowers and sete capotes), and it is my favourite. Maybe it is eugenia lutescens, as the fruits are sweet and not pyriformis (pear shaped)





3 seeds --> USD 8
5 seeds --> USD 12
10 seeds --> USD 22
20 seeds --> USD 42
25 seeds --> USD 50

Now I have something like 35 seeds and then some more in one month or so.

Natal Plum:

10 seeds USD 6


Small shrub or bush, south african origin. Produces medium sized, fleshy red fruits that can be eaten fresh or used in preserves. Beautiful white fragrant flowers are showy and ornamental. Commonly used as a hedge plant. Tolerant to salt, frost resistance -5ºC or -6ºC.



More info: http://www.huertasurbanas.com/tag/natal-plum/




* Red Strawberry guava (psidium cattleianum var sabine)
20 seeds (USD 4)
40 seeds (USD 7)
80 seeds (USD 12)





* Lemon guava (psidium cattleianum var lucidum), very nice lemon flavour, not acid, sweet.
20 seeds (USD 4)
40 seeds (USD 7)
80 seeds (USD 12)




* Araçá-una / black strawberry guava or purple forest guava (psidium eugeniaefolia), harvest feb 2018

5 seeds: 9 USD
10 seeds: 14 USD
20 seeds: 25 USD
40 seeds: 45 USD
80 seeds: 80 USD
100 seeds: 90 USD




* acid uvaia (eugenia sp.)

3 to 4cm diameter, rough skin pear shaped fruits, The perfume of the flowers is one of the best I know (along with citrus flowers and sete capotes), good for mermelades, icecreams, jams, etc.



3 seeds --> USD 7
5 seeds --> USD 11
10 seeds --> USD 20




* Cedar Bay cherries (eugenia reinwardtiana), Australian fruit, that bears in about 2 years from seed. A very tasty berry (similar to plums).

5 seeds --> 5 USD

Max order: 10 seeds.







* GUABIJU / GUAVIYU: myrcianthes pungens

5 seeds --> USD 10
10 seeds -->  USD 18  (I have very few this year.)

Fruit is sweet and not acid, very nice. 24º Brix!

Frost resistance of guaviyú: -9 or -10º C (similar to feijoa -acca sellowiana-).  It bears at 4 years old.






More species:

SOLD * red eugenia uniflora, pitanga, no resinous taste at all, taste similar to tangerines, very productive
10  seeds USD 7
25  seeds USD 13
50  seeds USD 21
100 seeds USD 39




SOLD  * black eugenia uniflora, pitanga negra, no resinous taste at all, acid and sweet similar to a grape
10  seeds USD 19
25  seeds USD 35





* Acid Ubajay (hexachlamys edulis), good for mermelades, icecream, all kind of desserts, drinks
5  seeds USD 11
10  seeds USD 19





Updated Shipping costs:
17 USD aprox. 30 days
23 USD aprox. 15 days

For dry seeds it could be cheaper, but wet seeds are just heavier.

Wet seeds: uvaia, guaviyú, cedar bay cherry, eugenia uniflora, ubajay, and more to come
Dry seeds: all psidium, acca sellowiana, aguaymanto and others

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cedar bay cherry fruiting for the first time
« on: January 10, 2018, 06:12:44 AM »
We have two 3 years old plants, one of them 40cm tall, poted, and the other one 60cm tall on the ground. Growing slowly but steady, thanks to Steven from Portugal for the seeds!










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: December 19, 2017, 03:59:24 PM »
Hi

I buyed these "big" (for Argentina) jaboticabas, 1.5 m tall (5 feet tall) or so.

I think they are myrciaria trunciflora (more likely to me) or myrciaria coronata, what do you think?






The seller wrote that the mother tree is more than 5 meters tall and the fruit is not so acid, so I think it could be sweet and very good. They should be 6 years old and maybe will flower soon!

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Hi, the tree is 4 years old or so, 4m high, it is flowering for the first time... some flowers just "die" and onthers have fruits. I didnt hand pollinated them

Why does it works?

maybe we have some interesting bug pollinating them?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / tasting a "bad" ubajay for the first time...
« on: December 14, 2017, 12:38:51 PM »
A few weeks ago at Carlos Thays Botanical Garden I found ubajays on the ground and, as the perfume did not pleased me, it did not seem a good idea to eat them ... I barely bit one and it was very acidic, but other people wanted to taste them and they liked them, to this day I did not understand them...

Yesterday a friend harvested ubajays from their trees and he did not liked them either, so I asked him to give me some fruits to try: it did not seem so bad to me, they just have a very strong and acid flavor but there are other varieties that should be clearly superior, good and sweet (Miguel Pt and a nursery woman form Entre Rios).

For now I hope that my ubajays bear some fruit to see which one is the best - maybe I have the sweet variety given that a tree is from Entre Ríos and the nursery woman who sold it to me said that she has a good variety, with medlar (nispero) flavor. Then I will graft the trees of the acid variety with branches of the best variety, or perhaps I will leave them like this because I think that these acid fruits have a complex and interesting flavor tone to prepare ice cream ... in fact an overripe fruit had a much better perfume , similar to that of the uvaias, and I imagine that flavor prepared with a lot of sugar and I think it's fantastic for jams, sweets, candies ... it's a caramel-like taste but with something strange, with a strong "alcoholic" touch.

But if I try to ear them raw, natural: I dont like them.

I added some sugar and the almíbar from them was good








PD: my friend wants to kill his trees... hahaha, he will give them to me as a gift

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It surprises me that it is almost exactly like a normal cherry but with a myrtaceae touch!

Taste report and photos, inside of the fruit, etc., spanish:

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2017/12/13/probando-cerella-por-primera-vez/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVEdBdSfI0

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I planted it near a sete capotes and it looks so good! maybe next year we will have some fruit! Seeds from Hawaii

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Hi, the season is open! I will have several more species in the next months (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=22466.50), but these pitanga varieties are very tasty so I am selling the seeds now.

I harvested a lot of surinam cherries! So I am doing a special offer

* red eugenia uniflora, pitanga, no resinous taste at all, taste similar to tangerines, very productive
10  seeds USD 7
25  seeds USD 13
50  seeds USD 21
100 seeds USD 39




* black eugenia uniflora, pitanga negra, no resinous taste at all, acid and sweet similar to a grape
10  seeds USD 19
25  seeds USD 35





* Acid Ubajay (hexachlamys edulis), good for mermelades, icecream, all kind of desserts, drinks
5  seeds USD 11
10  seeds USD 19







Updated Shipping costs:
17 USD aprox. 30 days
23 USD aprox. 15 days

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Hi, I dont know if call them spine or thorn (they dont hurt you), but I dont have another jaboticaba species that has this little spine-like at the tip of the leaves. Similar to guaviyú too, but softer.

It looks like grimal or sabará or coronata, but I dont know what is it in fact... the seller (from Misiones) of these seedlings told me that it bears big fruits, that is the only data I have!














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Tropical Fruit Discussion / first psidium guyanense flowers!
« on: October 25, 2017, 12:46:45 PM »
The smell is similar to psidium cattleianum but I like it more (now that I have both, this smells sweeter), the flower is bigger (as the leaves and fruits!)



I call it arazá blanco, or white arazá, but I dont know if there is a popular name for it...

The last year we got just one fruit and I didnt noticed the flowers, now I know how nice they are :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tasting more jaboticabas (video)
« on: October 10, 2017, 08:28:03 AM »
The fruits were very tasty, sweet and acid, not too acid, like a mix of grapes, guavas and plums (but they were harvested a bit unripe and they traveled for 4 days so I think they were in the starting stage of a fermentation... they had a "wine" taste too). Soft to the touch.

To me, they dont have the green crown in the apex that should have a myrciaria coronata fruit, maybe they are sabará...

My english is not too good, I never speak english! I sound like an arab (dont have nothing against them).


English video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpHBFM-g5bY&t=1s

Spanish video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo508ZRMSXI&t=5s





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / outstanding eugenia uniflora flowering
« on: October 02, 2017, 12:27:51 PM »
It is full of bees, I hope it will bear thousand of sweet fruits this spring! This is her best year so far.

A nice video, today (idk how to embed it here...):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv4mS3vtsPA

Photos, yesterday:








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Hi dear forum members.

This method would be good for many species, but I am focusing now on jaboticabas, could you help us? There are many forum members that doesnt know what kind of jaboticaba are they growing, but if we could compare leaf venation, size, shape and other details, we should identify them properly!

* How can you help? (and we maybe can help you!)

Could you take some photos of the leaves? If you could take good near photos of leaves we can identify it properly.

It would be cool to have photos of your named m. cauliflora paulista, m. jaboticaba sabará, m. coronata, other species, and photos of unidentified jaboticabas (and or eugenias too!).

Any photo of the leaves would be fine, but it would be better if you can take photos like these:



I did that just with my cell phone using android, but you can do it with a normal camera or an iphone too:

How-to:

1) take a leaf of your plant and point it directly to the sun to show their veins
2) the camera should be in "flower" or "macro" mode to focus a near object! (in android, go to Auto --> PRO, Settings, Manual Focus, select the Flower icon)
3) focus your camera or cell phone to the leaf: the leaf should be between the sun and the camera
4) be sure to focus right! take a shot (as much shots as you think till it focus right)
5) upload it here!

your photo should look a bit like this:



There you can also see the sun behind, I let it there just for explaining purposes


A good photo should look like this (although the tip is not visible, it should ideally be seen):





Here you can get some clues of myrtaceae leaf taxonomy (spanish doc):

http://www.scielo.org.ar/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1851-23722011000100004

For instance:




We can work together and find what we really have!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: September 16, 2017, 12:25:25 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzV_AsyRJpU&feature=youtu.be










This tree is maybe 6 to 8 years old, 2cm thick in the base of the main trunk.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25386.0

Adam S. identified it as myrciaria cauliflora, jaboticaba paulista...

Do you think It is having its first flower buds right now?

it would be so............... awesome!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / is there a taxonomist here?
« on: September 12, 2017, 03:43:37 PM »
Hi

I would like to learn taxonomy in terms of leaf architecture in order to identify the species I am finding... so, could anyone teach, help or give examples? I can take good photos of the venaria of Myrtaceae and other families ...

I hope so...

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I simply want to share my amazement at this jaboticaba that produces pure reddish leaves a few days before spring, and has never given me problems at direct sun or water from the city (very easy to grow, unlike any other). Now it must be something like 6 years old and I hope it will fructify soon, although I know it could take 3 or 4 years more ... it measures 70cm in height and the thickness of the trunk is 2cm (a little less than 2 inches)










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID: myrciaria delicatula or what?
« on: September 11, 2017, 01:21:48 PM »
In this photo from http://www.scielo.org.ar/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1851-23722011000100004 sou can see A and B, are myrciaria delicatula:



And this is from my plant:











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Hi, I think that these are the first photos of psidium guyanense (not guineense!) flower buds on the net!

It flowers along with psidium cattleianum, so we now know how is its season. The fruit is very tasty, sweet and juicy, similar to p. cattleianum but bigger and with bigger seeds.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / psidium to ID
« on: August 13, 2017, 04:20:48 PM »
Hi, I got this psidium from a collector and he think it is very rare and unknow... but, would you know what is it?









When I broke a leaf, I smelled it and chewed it, it had a pleasant aroma and taste, unlike all the other 10 psidium I have ... more like p. Eugeniaefolia than the rest, and less bitter than the rest ... The aroma was interesting, similar to that of psidium longipetiulatum, but less strong, and stronger than psidium cattleianum. Definitely not any of the ones I had:
It is not:
Friedrichsthalianum
Longipetiolatum
Eugeniaefolia
Sartoriarum
Cattleianum
Guineense
Guyanese
Guajava
Australe

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID: jaboticaba oblongata or aureana?
« on: August 13, 2017, 03:17:16 PM »
Hi, I got this jaboticaba from a collector that thinks that it could be aureana or oblongata, what do u think?












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