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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Snails
« on: July 19, 2018, 07:38:47 PM »
I have seen and removed many, many small snails from my citrus trees this year, but I have seen no damage in the area where they where removed from. Do some snails clean leaves? Can they be beneficial?  Do we any snailologists on here? Lol
Not sure but you may have the "decollate snail" they are smaller than the regular "garden snail" the decollate snail is good because it predates on other snails that cause more harm to your plants.

There is one called  Shwe Hin Thar, I don't know if it is the same as  Shwe Hin Dha, but I have had the  Shwe Hin Thar for a few years but have not let it fruit yet so I don't know what it is like except from the description on the link below:


ive had 3 (1 still alive -freeze killed the others)
they all  had been chlorotic at first
iron, magnesium and nitrogen greened them up.
im not sure which one is the culprit, maybe 2, or all 3, but it made a huge difference.
and it took several days to notice any change at all,

Nitrogen is mobile in the plant, so, you can see the difference in days.
iron is not, you have to wait for new growth.
(Magnesium is "Somewhat mobile")

too much magnesium can act as a salt and shrivel up leaves
too much of anything can lockout other nutrients. just an FYI.

Thanks for the information

I will have oak Leaf Papaya seeds in about a month. The fruit is forming now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Choloric Peanut Butter fruit flowering
« on: July 10, 2018, 11:08:37 PM »
I've drenched this this with iron, added cottonseed meal and even lowered the PH of stored rain water. It is slowly starting to green up, but it is flowering profusely now. I'm hoping the flowers form into fruits. I've only got a few fruit to mature the last few seasons. Any ideas.

Maybe Marklee s tree is infausta? It's hard to tell from pics the two species are distinct from eachother in person. Madagascarensis is not velvety like infausta :)

Mine must be infausta, it has the velvety leaves on the underside.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help: wax apple wonít flower
« on: July 06, 2018, 07:48:15 PM »
You may have a seedling or you may be trimming off the new growth where the buds form on wax jambus.
Do buds form on current year growth or last year's growth?

I pinch of new growth on mine because it's every leggy, maybe that is inhibiting flowering :'(
Also a seedling. Do seedlings only usually flower when huge?

Yes, the fruit forms on the ends of the springs new growth. I'm not sure how long a seedling takes to fruit. I've only had airlayers.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help: wax apple wonít flower
« on: July 06, 2018, 06:08:50 PM »
You may have a seedling or you may be trimming off the new growth where the buds form on wax jambus.

I've had this outside for a few years in a pot and have it marked as Vangueria edulis. Can anyone confirm this is the "Spanish Tamarind"


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rajapuri Mango
« on: June 29, 2018, 11:04:25 PM »
I have never even heard of this mango before so when I saw it at the Indian supermarket, I had to try it. I have a description of this mango along with pictures here

I just canít believe that I have never heard about this mango before. It is absolutely delicious, super juicy and the combination of unique flavors make it stand out from the crowd.

Is anyone growing this variety and does anyone know anything about this variety? This is definitely a variety worth growing in the US.



The Rajapuri I had also was one of the best even though it was a little soft when I finally got into it. I really like the "piney" taste of Indian mangoes.
Too bad the fruit has been radiated, I planted the seed and it turned to brown pretty quick. Maybe we can get some scions one day here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafting experiments
« on: June 23, 2018, 02:25:38 AM »
Looks good Simon, I think I'll try some of the varieties I have and put them on the seedlings I have.

Also, I was a Quail gardens today and someone is air layering  a couple of lychees. One is labeled as "Kwai Mi", have you ever heard of that one?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:38:45 PM »
Here are the leaves from the Jim Neitzel pitanga. The first photo is of some leaves at the base of the tree. The second photo is of some mature foliage.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:32:41 PM »
This year I let one rootstock root into the ground through the pot while upping the other 2 to 5gal before grafting. Interestingly, the one in the ground did not take any grafts. It did make a really strong sucker that pushed the main trunk almost flat to the soil line. The grafts were already failing before the sucker took over. I guess I should graft onto the sucker and see how that does. The other rootstocks took 1 or 2 out of about 5 grafts. I hope the heat doesn't kill the grafts. Some grafts that pushed out earlier wilted. Yangmei grafts will push early and then die. The ones that are slower tend to have better chances of healing.


Of the 3 pieces that I got from you via Toan, I grafted onto Californica they did good for a bit, but eventually all failed. I think next time try the M. cerifera as rootstock.

if you live in Ca or Hi he can't ship to you, but at least you got some really good mangoes growing in your state already...

its funny that we in So Cal depending on location are seeing blooms now, few sets and dropping, horrible year due to warm winter and freezing March, warm cold warm cold and it continues.

The only ones I have doing good down here in Chula Vista are some Paul Thomson seedlings, Keitt, Edward, Peggy and Ewais. The rest have dropped fruit or are just starting to bloom.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:10:40 PM »
That looks great! The nicest thing about eugenias is they can tolerate some shade. I just put my surinam cherry seedling in the front yard where it's shady all the time. It was flowering this year before planting. I hope it will do so next year.

Yeah Fang,

Surinames do fine in the shade. This particular one only gets sun until about 1 in the afternoon.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:09:30 PM »
That's a nice size pitanga Mark, interesting that i was called smithii i know that Nelson Westree developed some varieties of pitanga too, I have one seedling named westree 369 that's black but not as big as your's!

I think they have a Westree at Quail Gardens that puts out black fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:08:03 PM »
Hi Mark, I would love to get some seeds from that if you are willing to send to FL.  I have another black Surinam Cherry from Adam that is on the verge of fruiting, so I would love to grow both and compare.  Thanks, Nate

Hi Nate,

The tree doesn't have much fruit right now. But I will keep you in mind.



Tropical Fruit Discussion / Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 12, 2018, 11:15:41 PM »
Jim, said he bought this tree at Walter Andersons nursery in San Diego some 20 years ago and said it was labeled as Eugenia Smithii, I know there is not a species "Smithii" so it must be a variety. The leaves are thicker and bigger than any other Unifloras I've come across. The fruit is large and are black as "black star' and "Zill's dark". The taste at maturity does not have any resinous or bad after taste.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 11, 2018, 01:30:29 AM »
Big Sister is one I've been looking for. I've had Sabor for many years but only just grafted Big Sister a month ago. Thanks for the pictures.


I'm glad you have those ones. I think some of the original trees are gone now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 10, 2018, 05:22:01 PM »
Jim, with one of his varieties.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cainito fruit set photo in San Diego
« on: June 08, 2018, 03:57:28 PM »
This is a friends tree near me, it is grafted and we haven't tried the fruit yet. Mine formed marble sized fruits but fell off in winter. It may be because it is a different variety not as cold tolerant as my friends tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria guaquiea
« on: June 08, 2018, 03:06:12 PM »
I have a one foot tall one in a tree pot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cainito fruit set photo in San Diego
« on: June 07, 2018, 11:17:19 PM »
Here is finally a good photo of some Cainito fruit set in San Diego

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 07, 2018, 11:15:33 PM »
Jim, with friends

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