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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Cacao Possible in SoCal
« on: September 02, 2017, 05:19:11 PM »
good news. sorry i haven't read the responses in the entire thread so i apologize if it has been answered already. There is a full grown tree in Carlsbad planted in the ground with adult fruit on it. this looks to be a very mature tree and is very happy so i want to say the answer is yes but it will take a whole lot of love to get it strong and happy

Awesome! We go to Carlsbad / Oceanside usually once a year. Where is it at, I would love to see it!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: August 19, 2017, 10:24:02 AM »
Man, if only you wanted a flying pig instead of a three-legged duck ....

I got mangoes from Mark ( and Alex (Tropical Acres) and Shamus had a mango tasting with ones he brought back from Zills

My favorites this year:

1. Sweet Tart
2. Lemon Zest
3. Peach Cobbler
4. Coconut Cream
5. Mahachanok

Also I absolutely loved Cac. I would put that in spot 5 along with Mahachanok

I had some Duncan, Edward and Mallika that were also superb.

Per the forum rules, you must post the price

Please post the price of the cuttings.

I have received two boxes of mangoes from Mark, and just placed an order for box #3. They are awesome!! Excellent variety in each box and the mangoes are all at varying stages of ripeness so you get to enjoy them over several days. Such high quality and so delicious. Thanks!!

Please list the sale price and the botanical name

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Banana Corms
« on: May 25, 2017, 04:58:01 PM »
pm sent!

Alex, Do you have any slides for the talks for those of us not able to attend. I would love to see your notes! Especially any notes you have for the growing mangoes in central Florida talk.

Ladies and Gents,

   After careful consideration, I came to the conclusion that I must have been out of my mind.  I can not possibly part with my collection.  Sorry for those of you looking to buy trees but congrats to you looking to buy budwood.  As soon as the trees are finished fruiting, we are back in business!

George, that is great to hear! I am so glad for you that you are keeping your collection for your benefit and enjoyment. And I am so glad (selfishly) for us that you are keeping your trees so we can continue to buy top-quality budwood in such a vast variety!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: April 24, 2017, 10:04:24 AM »
The question now is how do I get one?

Excalibur may have them. You can call and check.

In about a month I will have a 3 gallon M-4 for sale. I am using the 3G right now as a source of budwood for top-working and once the grafts take for sure, I will sell the 3G.


would you be willing to sell budwood off that tree first before you sell the tree? I would love to buy some M-4 budwood if it were available!

Tree looks great and very healthy! Thanks River!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: April 19, 2017, 06:38:31 PM »
I vouch for M-4.  Among more than a hundred varieties I've had the delight to eat, it will join the ranks of a rarified top 10 mango.  Time will tell if it can bump something out of the Fab 5.

Hey Future, thanks for the input!

Just a quick question (and not to derail the thread), what is the Fab 5 in your opinion?

boxturtle beat me to it. I was going to say contact the man himself.

I bought some seeds from luc last year at got about 90% germination. I have several seedlings all doing great. They are still small and I protected them over the winter, but they are now waking up with the spring.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: royal poinciana dwarf
« on: April 03, 2017, 02:35:26 PM »
Oh, to answer the original question: We have them at every Lowes and HD around here. I would actually be surprised if you CA Lowes / HDs don't carry them. They are very often sold as 1 gallons, but they grow fast!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: royal poinciana dwarf
« on: April 03, 2017, 02:32:08 PM »
Any one know where they sell this tree? I want replace my gigantic flamboyant that's cracking the sidewalk
Dwarf flamboyan

Hey Frank, based on the image I agree with Roy-Ind: Red Bird of Paradise (Caesalpinia pulcherrima). We have them all over the neighborhoods down here. In fact I had one in my backyard for years before I ripped it out to make room for a mango.

Nothing invasive about the roots and gets maybe 10-12 ft tall. It wants to be very bushy, so if you want to grow it like a tree you will be pruning it several times a year to keep the form.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Amrapali mango budwood
« on: April 02, 2017, 10:40:55 PM »
I am looking for some Amrapali mango budwood. If anyone has it and is able to mail it via priority mail please let me know.

Oscar has Amrapali. I ordered some from him last year and my grafts took. They are still too small to harvest, otherwise I would offer some from my trees.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mango Seeds in Bulk
« on: March 31, 2017, 10:14:10 AM »
I don't know if they have "Mangoes" in Florida but around here they do. It's like a smoothie shop chain. They saved me a weeks worth which amounted to about 200 (a garbage bag full anyway). The guy seemed to think it was better for the environment to "recycle" them, so he gave them to me for free. Came back the next week for a few hundred more. Unfortunately only about one in 15 germinated. Idk why. Irradiated? Too long in the cold? I bought about 50 champagne mangoes from Mexico at the produce market with tiny seeds and got an 80%+ germination rate.

I noticed that last year too. I got a bunch of Kesar and Alphonso mangoes (SO GOOD!!!) from India last year. And only 1 out of about 30 seeds germinated for me. I agree with you that they were probably irradiated. But the "yellow" mangoes from Mexico (Manila, ataulfo, champagne) had an almost 100% germination rate for me.

Another (IMO) easier solution than figuring out SpiceZee pollination potential would be to just graft a Burgundy plum onto the Sweet Treat. Burgundy is a good pollinator for most of the lower chill plums / pluots. Plant the SpiceZee near the Sweet Treat and turn one of the Sweet Treat branches into a Burgundy.

EDIT: Basically what GardenScientist said :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Namwah ... uhhhhh.....
« on: March 24, 2017, 05:36:27 PM »
Don't give up on the dead one either, keep watering the area it was who knows. A neighbor gave me
a small pup from her finger bananas and it didn't flourish even though I watered it. I dug it up and through it in
my mulch pile. Now it is 12 feet and looks better then my bananas I care for. It definitely loves the mulch pile.
As far as the red blotches I would grow it up and see in 6 months what it looks like. I know some people tell me
to never buy tissue culture plants. The reason is that the plants have never been exposed to anything and have no
immunity? I also should have pups later this year from Dwarf Namwah if you need one? My namwah has only had one
pup and I don't recall red on the juvenile leaves


Thanks, that is good advice. I will keep watering it, give it some compost, and see what happens. And thanks for the offer!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Namwah ... uhhhhh.....
« on: March 24, 2017, 05:35:21 PM »
Hi Mark, i am no expert but i do have the dwarf Namwah ALL GREEN LEAVES , however that is not why i am sticking my nose in i would like to know why for the past few months so many of the postings with photos just show me a square with a red X in it and no photo, on a second note if your bannana does not work out for you of you would just like a new one let me know i can send a corm or pup.          Regards     Patrick

Hey Patrick!

Thanks, that's what I figured. Regarding the pics: Man, I have no idea why that is happening for you. The pics show up for me without issue.

Thanks for the offer on the pups / corms! I might take you up on it!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dwarf Namwah ... uhhhhh.....
« on: March 24, 2017, 01:18:24 PM »
So I used to have a Dwarf Namwah that I got from Going Bananas. Everyone says it is a great banana plant. It grew great from me all last summer, took the heat just fine. I moved it to a different spot in my yard because I had it potted and I wanted it in the ground. Long story short ... I killed it by underwatering.

Not the plants fault, totally my fault. And as it grew all last summer it had gorgeous green typical banana leaves.

So I decide to get another one this spring. Not from Going Bananas but another place.

I get the tree in and this is what I get:

.... uhhhh ... this does not look a Dwarf Namwah to me.

So this is what I wrote to them:

"I just received an order in which I ordered a Dwarf Namwah banana. However the banana that I received is not a Dwarf Namah. The leaves have red splotches on them. See attached picture. Based on the spotches, I think it is either Siam Ruby or Sumatran X or something similar. It is definitely not Dwarf Namwah which have solid green leaves (I used to have one, so I know what it should look like)."

This is what they responded with:

"We have spoken to our horticulturist and he said that since these are made by tissue culture it is possible for the Nam Wah to have red color variations. This is the correct banana even though your last one had only green leaves."

Does this pass muster?

I did a quick Google search to see if Namwah ever has red splotches and could not find anything.

So the question to the banana experts here is: Can Dwarf Namwah have red splotches?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: the best avocado to use for rootstock?
« on: March 21, 2017, 02:16:37 PM »
Lula seeds will work well for rootstock.

Agreed. I get avocados shipped from FL not only for the fruit but also to use seeds for rootstocks.

Simmonds = vigorous, big seed. Very good. But shows a little salt sensitivity (not much). Little suckering but not much
Waldin = vigrous, big seed. However tends to sucker a lot, like Adam says.
Lula = vigorous, big seed. Excellent grow, very little salt sensitivity, little suckering.

Like Rob and Carlos say, I like Lula too.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cherimoya seeds
« on: March 21, 2017, 09:49:05 AM »
I got some cherimoya seeds if anyone wants.

The cherimoyas came from southcoastorganics.

PM for details


How was the fruit quality?  We just ate our first Booth from Goodland Organics and it was delicious!  Cross between a pineapple, strawberry, banana, and kiwi.

I too got some Dr. White cherimoyas from South Coast Organics last week. Man, they were superb! It was a big box that had 1-2 ripe on arrival and the range of sizes ripened over the course of 5 days (that is how long I could make them last :) ). And I love Dr. White chermioyas: Pear / banana / tropical flavors, just a little acidity, very juicy and incredible texture. So good!

Shopping for beans from a farm known of within the community of growers.

Please let me know if I can buy unroasted coffee beans, up to 3 lbs, from you or a friend.

Thank you!

Sweet Maria's beans.  They really take this stuff seriously and offer only the best.

Hard to beat the community based and supported area of Costa Rica Tarrazu La Millita.  Highest quality too.  Goodland Organics sells locally grown (SoCal) greens but the prices our ridiculous.


When I used to roast my own coffee (which I did for years) I always bought my beans from Sweet Marias. Totally agreed they are the best.

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