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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Members here from Goa India
« on: July 14, 2018, 09:48:00 PM »
During the first 25 years of my life in the West Coast of India South of Goa I have most likely tasted over thousand (Yes. 1000) different varieties of non-grafted so called 'wild' mangoes and never cared much for any or some top grafted varieties including 'Benet Alfanso' / AKA 'appus'. We had a family fruit orchard growing varieties of Mangoes, Cashew, Jack Fruits and most other common Indian and other tropical fruits in about 16 acres of land and it was not a business venture!
 5 acres of over forty (40) grafted varieties of mangoes specially obtained from Agriculture Colleges of 1. Bangalore in Mysore,  2. Agricultural Colleges in Coimbatore and Northern part of Andhra of Madras Province, 3. Poona Agricultural College of Bombay Province. We also had so many varieties of 'wild mangoes' each tree having it's unique quality which is hard to describe. Most of the home gardens had their own unique mangoes. This is true of the whole Deccan Plateau, South of the Vindhya Mountains.
Frankly I chuckle when reading about the 'greatness' of most (all!) of the mangoes mentioned in the TFF. It is hard to perceive what I am talking about.

PM sent. Good luck. Triphal

Thank you Doctor Sir for your kind words.
Just talked to my nephew. They had 'ekpani' (Centella asiatica) chutney, 'durvankur' (Cynodon dactylon / Burmuda grass) rasam and 'taikilo' ( Cassia tora) bajias and among others for lunch today. Will send you the recipe. Triphal

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Kokum seeds...
« on: June 17, 2018, 02:45:43 PM »
Sir. Is this a new cultivar of sweet variety of kokum than the common (sour) one? In tamarind there are two distinct varieties. A common sour variety and a NE Thai sweet variety.
Please note that all kokums I tasted had some sweetness just like as in all those tasted sour tamarinds. I am interested in some sweet kokum seeds for a friend in South Konkan Maharashtra. Thank you.

To Luketrollope. Thank you for your timely comment. Please let me inform you that even I am in Zone 6B I have been spending since over 55 years twice a year 6 to 12 weeks in India between 13 and 14 degrees N and between 74 and 75 degrees E. We have been growing nutmegs also. Since I have retired I am helping other Nurseries and home owners, promoting ( Totally Non Commercial ) rare but useful low land tropical fruit trees from around the world.
My first known experience of nutmeg is probably 75 years ago. To me and us around that area this fruit is bland. That was what I meant. I am sorry for the 'tone', which was unfortunate.
 You can make jam , syrup, drinks or candies of any insipid non poisonous fruits. Just blend it and add lime or lemon or orange or tamarind or pineapple juice + some sweet component of cane or beet sugar or molasses or sorghum or maple syrup + optional cardamom powder. You can make it into an edible substance in less than an hour of cooking! Make ice cream with all sorts of milks and yogurts.
I have never seen any wild life including squirrels, bats nor mice relishing those yellow fruits. Neither those ants. But the cuckoo relishes the mace and the seed. I am now spending at least 4 months in an year at that zone of our over 200 years old ancestral home and farm. Sorry for my different 'wave length'. Thanks for your tip on that 'Coke' ingredient.

 Knowing nutmeg trees and fruits (unpalatable) for over half a century since my childhood days in low land Tropics of Southern India this information about 'nutmeg' appears to be misleading and unacceptable.
Both the nutmeg seeds and the encircled red mace are valued as a spice and used in some Ayurvedic medicines. I request someone to please comment on this topic of nutmeg. Thanks.

Agree with you Mike. Probably it was an error.  Triphal

Just received in India well packed 20 seeds of Yellow Jaboticaba. 10 of them sprouted. Have already planted all 20 of them in an apt. medium tray in a nursery. Hoping others to germinate. Thank you very much.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Is Eating My Papayas?
« on: November 19, 2017, 10:10:33 AM »
Age old method in India. For rat problem on coconut trees a thin 1' to 1 1/2' long aluminum sheet is wrapped around the trees 6' to 8' above the ground. This can be applied to control squirrel also. Make sure there are no nearby tree branches or building structures for them to jump on those trees.This method can be used for arecanut and papaya trees.

I think some Syzygiums will be termed as 'pests'. Please check out from USDA California offices. Triphal

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: pulasan
« on: October 29, 2017, 07:58:40 PM »
Thanks. Please note that I am late in thanking you. Triphal

California Rare Fruit Growers association (of Southern California) is the BEST place for you to get what you want. A membership may land you in an appropriate (sour type) well rooted plant for a 'song'! Please try to browse their net. Triphal

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: First and second year pawpaws
« on: September 22, 2017, 05:17:28 PM »
Pawpaw trees love easy water access. That's why they have long tap roots and so you find them wild on the banks of the rivers. Since we have our own well water and live about 3 miles interior of the river banks I have been watering pawpaws more often than Kiwi, Chinese jujube, Persimmon and others when we are in 6b zone. Good organic mulch and planting trees very close will help to conserve water for the surface roots and pollination.   Triphal

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PAW PAW
« on: September 20, 2017, 01:10:20 PM »
Thank you 'Mangaba' for helping me to put these two of my yesterday's picks of pawpaws from the planted three home garden trees. I will wait for the weekend to publish more pics with the help of my daughter. Thanks again.  Triphal

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread
« on: September 19, 2017, 05:59:49 PM »
Correction of my previous comment.  I am unable to send the PICTURES I have taken of the 3 pawpaw plants loaded with fruits and the harvested fruits. Triphal

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread
« on: September 19, 2017, 03:47:54 PM »
I have harvested over five hundred (500) pawpaws so far out of my three (3) trees.  Unfortunately I am unable to send it to other than the email addresses through my PC, Galaxy tablet and iphone! I wish some TFF member would be able to publish them on the TFF. If interested send me a pm. Triphal

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread
« on: September 16, 2017, 07:37:46 AM »
Our 3 planted trees already yielded over 200 fruits this year. There are 200 more to ripen and fall. Just picked about 25 fallen fruits in the morning. Please note that I have pruned the tree with fruits in late spring.Fruits are of good quality orange colored and sweet.


Found wild in the woods of the Coastal Karnataka. Food for the wildlife. Photo taken about 2 weeks ago.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: pulasan
« on: September 06, 2017, 08:30:41 AM »
From which part of India? What variety of pulasan grafted? How old is the plant and it's size? What is the price and how many plants  available? Shipping method and cost of shipping to Karnataka? Thanks. A photograph of the plant along with it's container is apt. Thanks.

When did you start selling these seeds?  It takes awhile for many varieties of Garcinia seeds to fruit in in 7 to 10 years.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please ID this plant
« on: August 17, 2017, 06:55:14 PM »
Thanks for the information. I will smell both the purple and greenish yellow flowers of pawpaws next spring.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please ID this plant
« on: August 17, 2017, 10:19:01 AM »
Pawpaws mostly has purple flowers but have about 15% greenish yellow flowers. When the fruits first sets up most of the non-pollinated flowers crumple dry out and fall. The yellow flowers take longer time to wither and drop. Pawpaw flowers are not sweet smelling but stinky, the reason for repelling bees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please ID this plant
« on: August 16, 2017, 09:34:25 PM »
 This is not a tropical tree now. ( Eons ago it was a tropical tree in N.American continent related to the custard apple family ) It needs at least  3 weeks of chilling around 35 to 40 degrees. So you should post this in the 'Temperate zone' fruit section and may get more responses. Incidentally over 80% of American  (USA) do not know about this indigenous fruit. As the Pawpaw has long taproot it may not be ideal to grow it as a container plant hence needs to be in the ground.

My 9 yrs. old grafted tree is in zone 6b. It started fruiting 5 yrs. ago. Three years ago after moderate pruning (unnecessary) I found black spots at the cut ends of the branches. Later found black areas in few leaves (like in your photographs) which I initially thought as related to the oozing from the pruning areas. Some or all of those leaves turned yellow and shed. Got worried. Later a colleague of mine told me it's from a caterpillar infestation. But I never chanced to see one there by then! Tree is growing healthy, 20+ feet in height now and skinny branches with full of fruits. Since we planted this tree for wild life we do not harvest. But have tasted in November, 5 years ago. Two inches round, mushy, very sweet and with 0 to 4 seeds.  Probably zone 4 to 9 may be ideal for growing this tree which is it's natural habitat area. This may help.

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Momordica sahyadrica
« on: August 14, 2017, 09:00:51 PM »
Please see my comment on M. dioica.
For years I wanted to use raw unripe Gac fruit M. cochichinensis, as a vegetable. There should be a reason why SE Asians do not use this unripe as a vegetable as it is commonly grown there.

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