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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another prickly pear selection
« on: September 16, 2018, 12:52:14 PM »
BTW, I can donate pads from either variety to anyone who can pick up from my home in Palos Verdes or from my office in Torrance. No shipping.


I just have to remember which one is which!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tools of the Trade
« on: September 16, 2018, 12:17:27 PM »
grab it by the lady parts


I can't believe you actually wrote that!  ;D


But that's an interesting tip; I probably waste a lot of pollen by brushing it on, because my brush usually picks up far more than I need to pollinate a single flower, and it kinda falls all over the place when I brush it on. Or maybe I just need a smaller brush for pollinating than the one I use for pollen collection.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another prickly pear selection
« on: September 16, 2018, 12:11:44 PM »
Based on the vigor of plant #1, and the fact that I'm running out of pots, I will give away both #2 and #3 to anyone who wants to pick them up from my home in Palos Verdes (90274) or my office in Torrance (90502). 1 per person! I don't want to unpot them or ship them.In exchange I ask only for a clay pot of similar or larger size. PM if you're interested!
So Opuntia #3 also started growing! It grew a pair of Mickey Mouse ears, and it now on its way to being a reasonable plant.#2 and #3 are still up for donation if anyone wants them.In November I also cut some pads and fruit from another spineless Opuntia here in Palos Verdes. I never got a chance to taste the fruit, because guests were coming over so I hurriedly stuffed a whole bunch of stuff in a closet, including the Opuntia pads and fruit. 5 months later (no kidding!) I was looking in the closet and "found" my Opuntia. Both pads were very pale green, and one was quite shriveled, so I thought they were goners, but I put them in some dirt anyway.Here's what the shriveled one looked like a few weeks ago:It's pale and sickly looking, but it's alive! The other pad looks a tad better, and has just started pushing out new growth.So it looks like these things are pretty unkillable!

2 years hence I now have 4 robust Opuntia plants--two "Torrance PCH" and two of these other local plants that I'll call "PV Rhone," because that's where I cut them from.

But last week I found out that:

1) Spineless cacti aren’t.
2) Prickly pear isn’t a great pot cactus, because it’ll bust right out of your pots.
3) Repotting a cactus is not fun.
4) There’s a second one that needs repotting.


I still don't have any fruit yet, from any of my four plants. One of my PV Rhones set 3 fruit a few months ago, but the contractors rebuilding my fence knocked all of them off the plant when they moved the pot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Vegetative propagation from fruit tissue?
« on: September 16, 2018, 11:44:18 AM »
Just curious: what other fruit, besides pineapple, can be vegetatively propagated from purchased fruit? This post about a yellow dragonfruit with a tiny stub of vine on it got me thinking. That particular case is only marginally interesting, because it doesn't happen very often.


But could the stem of an apple or pear be induced to root? What if it had a leaf on it?


What type of tissue is typically used for tissue culture propagation?


(let's leave patent issues for a separate thread and just talk about what's biologically possible)





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 16, 2018, 11:21:46 AM »
oxidize stuff, and more potential for condensation. I just defrosted some pollen to take to the giant Lomita "Dragonfruit Tree" and when I was done I had drops of water in my pollen, just from condensation.

Don't uncap it until the container has reached room temp.  Like I said, I dilute pollen with flour before storing it in the fridge, not the freezer.


I may try this method. Having the "single serving" vials makes it easier for me to freeze some, fridge some, etc,. as needed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 16, 2018, 11:20:58 AM »
I didn't know container size was important! But it makes sense, because excess space will have more air to oxidize stuff, and more potential for condensation. I just defrosted some pollen to take to the giant Lomita "Dragonfruit Tree" and when I was done I had drops of water in my pollen, just from condensation.

So I just ordered a set of 10 vials, for $8.29 with free shipping:
They've arrived! So here's my "pollen collection kit:"







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 11, 2018, 03:47:01 PM »
I just couldn't stand to see all these flowers drop, so I went there around 10:00 PM last week and pollinated one. I couldn't reach any others without a taller ladder.

So I've returned to this location a few times over the last week, and I've pollinated about 7-8 more flowers with old Physical Graffiti pollen.

The one I pollinated back in August is doing great! Nice and swollen, and of pretty decent size. I'm hoping no one else picks it before I do! I forgot to take a photo last night.

I'll have to wait a week or so before I know whether the other ones will set. My pollen was pretty old by that time, and I'd had some condensation in my pollen storage container.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 11, 2018, 03:39:20 PM »
This is a san ignacio plant.  There was a photo of the buds a page ago.  They bloomed last night.  Bees are all over it.




I want some of your bees! I have 2 colonies right next to my DF vines, and my lazy, good-for-nothing bees pretty much ignore my DF blooms.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 11, 2018, 03:37:38 PM »
Here's the simple version of my process:
1. Use some sort of object you can insert into the flower, without damaging it, as far in as you can get it, and tap on the flowers stem to dislodge the pollen. I have an ice scoop that I've cut and reshaped to fit the flowers geometry, but another good idea Ive hear is to take a 1 litre soda or water bottle, and basically cut half the body of it out to form a scoop, then trim whats left of the body into a point, with a curved tip (no sharp or pointy edges), so it had a triangular shape.
2. Dump your pollen onto a white, or other lightly colored, plate so you can go through it and dig out anything that isnt pollen, like ants, flower parts, etc. Use tools like tweezers or sewing needles. Avoid touching the pollen directly.
3. Spread your pollen out on a folded paper towel or a napkin, not in clumps, but as an even powder. Place it somewhere shady, not in direct sunlight, but warm, and let it sit for 8-24 hours. Beware of strong drafts that might blow your pollen off its resting surface.
4. Place the towel/napkin back on your plate, fliped over, and pat/flick the dried pollen back onto the plate surface. Reexamine for anything not pollen. At my house its usually cat hair.
5. Here's the important part. Using as small of a container as possible, you can now store your pollen in your freezer. The colder the better. But the container is key. I have small sample vials I picked up from Ebay that I use. The idea is that you was as little air in with the pollen as possible. For a single flower, using something like the glass tubes free perfume samples used to come in would be a good size. Whatever you find, the container needs to be as small as you can find and air tight. Oh, and clean, too. Any moisture in the air can degrade the pollen when ice crystals form.
This process should give you pollen that will last a couple weeks in storage.
I didn't know container size was important! But it makes sense, because excess space will have more air to oxidize stuff, and more potential for condensation. I just defrosted some pollen to take to the giant Lomita "Dragonfruit Tree" and when I was done I had drops of water in my pollen, just from condensation.

So I just ordered a set of 10 vials, for $8.29 with free shipping:




Having smaller "single dose" sets of pollen will also allow me to not disturb the pollen that I don't need tonight.


And here's my collector scoop, cut down from a 16 oz. Perrier bottle, with RB's guidance. It works very well!



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 28, 2018, 02:47:36 PM »
Here's the vine that's closest to the street. I'm calling this the "A" vine.


The vines in that Lomita Dragonfruit Park are going pop tonight or Sunday night. Anyone want to sneak in with me and steal some pollen?

Or maybe sneak in and pollinate a few dozen flowers?


I just couldn't stand to see all these flowers drop, so I went there around 10:00 PM last week and pollinated one. I couldn't reach any others without a taller ladder.


Here is it, 10 days after pollen donation. It appears to have been successful!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 28, 2018, 02:37:58 PM »
I build my trellises out of redwood 2 x 4s and 4 x 4s. I don't set them in the ground; I put them on 1' x 1' concrete pavers so that I can move them around if necessary:



Design and drawings are here.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kona Sugarloaf is Fruiting!
« on: August 24, 2018, 05:07:56 PM »
Yes, there is a thread about the sugarloaf pineapples. The 'Kona Sugarloaf' is spiny, the 'Sugarloaf' is spineless.


Thanks! I'm just waiting for the day when we'll have Ronco Home DNA Sequencers in every home, and we'll be able to just puree a leaf to ID every plant in our gardens.  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kona Sugarloaf is Fruiting!
« on: August 23, 2018, 05:09:11 PM »
Yes! Mine are pretty sharp! I need to wear gloves when working on them, and I really should be wearing long sleeves, as well.


I'm not sure exactly how to guarantee lineage on plants bought over the internet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kona Sugarloaf is Fruiting!
« on: August 23, 2018, 04:41:19 PM »
Congrats! Yes those look like sugarloafs. They are smaller than cayenne pineapples. But if well fed can get pretty good sized.


If mine look like Kona Sugarloafs, then what are these?


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D8LKJOO/


These have zero red in the foliage, whereas mine have quite a bit, especially on new leaves and around the fruit.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kona Sugarloaf is Fruiting!
« on: August 23, 2018, 04:39:06 PM »
The fruit were good! They were small, but very tasty. The plants also did a lot multiplying after harvest. I twisted off 20+ good-sized suckers/slips, while still leaving the best/largest/most-central one on the 4 mother plants for the next crop:





I didn't want to bother with shipping these, so I gave them all away locally.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Spanish Pineapple Plants
« on: August 23, 2018, 03:13:30 PM »
If you need to give away your Spanish Red suckers or slips, I'd gladly take a few!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 20, 2018, 01:13:51 PM »
"Purple Haze" is a name given to Paul Thomson's 5-S, a hybrid from a Dragon Fruit Netitzel X Rixford” cross, which Paul said has dark red or magenta flesh, flavor good – very good.
Paul also said; All of the seedlings from his “Netitzel X Rixford” cross must be cross pollinated to set fruit. Other hobbyist growers agree.


Here's a previous post by Ric showing the various "#-S" lineages. So is S-8 Sugar Dragon truly a universal pollinator? Is there anything that it _won't_ pollinate?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 20, 2018, 11:05:57 AM »
Is this the "tap and plug" method mentioned in the post following yours?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljf6wyUmJ9k

Has anyone tried this onto a descending branch? I'm interested in grafting something onto those giant vines posted just above this, so that there's something to cross with those 4 plants. I've never seen fruit on them, despite several _hundred_ meters of vine that produce hundreds of flowers every season.
The grafting works ok but the graft is a weak point and breaks off easily.  I accidentally broke both of the grafts off just moving the plant around.  The center core stem heals well but the fins didnt bind well for mine and they created a weak spot.  What you would need to do is put a crutch of bamboo on the joint and use some tree tape or caution tape to tie the crutch to stiffen up the graft joint. 

I may do some more of those and try to get them tied up to a post right away so they dont break.


Ah, if it doesn't hold up to stress, then it probably won't work on this vine. I may just plant a few S-8 cuttings (when I get them) around the base of each tree, and hope that they do as well as the incumbent plant, some day.


By the way, I'll repeat what I wrote last year--Teuchert Park is a little miracle for those of us interested in DragonFruit, and everyone in the LA area should make a pilgrimage.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 18, 2018, 12:53:44 PM »
I think my purchased-from-Lowes-from-LaVerne dragonfruit is about ready for trellising, so I built this:



Should I wrap the main post with burlap to give the aerial roots something to attach to?

I eventually built 4 more of these and wrapped them in burlap.


Dear Dragonfruit: you're doing it wrong  ;D ;D ;D :



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 18, 2018, 12:47:58 PM »
My DF flowers have up to 10 bees inside in the morning so I don't ever hand pollinate them.

I thought pitaya was pollinated with some kind of night moth.  Forgot the name - it's big though.  If bees pollinate DF then I've got it made, IF, they do so early morning before the flowers close up? ??? ???

Seems like my DF flowers don't fully close until about 10 in the morning.  In my yard, the bees are busy on them until they can't get inside anymore.


Interesting. I'm a beekeeper, so I have 40,000 bees literally right next to my DF vines, and I almost never see bees in the flowers.  >:(

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 18, 2018, 12:46:59 PM »
Heres an american beauty with peruvian yellow DF "grafted" onto it.  Simon was nice enough to share some of the peruvian yellow DF with me and I am going to see if the growth rate is improved at all with a different rootstock.  They are quite slow growers even in a greenhouse so we wjll see if it helps at all.




Is this the "tap and plug" method mentioned in the post following yours?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljf6wyUmJ9k


Has anyone tried this onto a descending branch? I'm interested in grafting something onto those giant vines posted just above this, so that there's something to cross with those 4 plants. I've never seen fruit on them, despite several _hundred_ meters of vine that produce hundreds of flowers every season.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 18, 2018, 12:41:42 PM »
Here's the vine that's closest to the street. I'm calling this the "A" vine.



This was 9:00 PM in the evening; it's a 15 second exposure to get that much light. Full resolution, here.

There were at least 2 dozen blooms tonight, of which 5-6 were easily reachable on foot, and one more with a stepladder. I have about a teaspoon of pollen in my fridge, because some of my own vines will bloom within a week.

I didn't have any of my own pollen with me, so I couldn't pollinate this vine, but I will bring some next time I visit. I did hand-pollinate these flowers with their own pollen, though I suspect they're self-infertile (but I don't actually know for sure).

The B vine (also outside the gate) had only one bloom, but there are more buds ready to pop over the next several nights.

The C vine (inside the gate) also had lots of blooms tonight, but I couldn't get inside.


None of the flowers I hand-self-pollinated set fruit, so apparently the A vine is self-infertile, and I never did get around to bringing some foreign pollen to it. Maybe next bloom cycle, if we have one, or perhaps next year.

A cutting of S-8 or other pollinator will take years to get to flowering stage.


But I had another idea--What if I were to graft some S-8 on these vines?

Can one graft DF onto descending branches? Is it hard to ensure contact on an upside-down graft? When causes a grafted piece to flower? Its own maturity, or the maturity of the host plant? Or a combination of both? When is the right time to graft?


The vines in that Lomita Dragonfruit Park are going pop tonight or Sunday night. Anyone want to sneak in with me and steal some pollen?


Or maybe sneak in and pollinate a few dozen flowers?

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Roots pretty much act as anchors.


I keep reading this, but then I de-potted one of mine after harvest, and it looked like this:





That looks like a pretty extensive root system. I'm going to de-pot another one, soon, out of a 19" pot (about 11 gal) and see if it's filled that up with roots, too.

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Im using shrubblers and spot spitters just because I have the materials but would prefer something that will promote a healthy root trajectory.  Also big big benefits of precise drip is weed mitigation and if you want to fertigate


Yup! I use drippers for my vegetables for these two reasons.


I've also started experimenting with spot spitters. One nice feature of the Primerus spot spitters is that you can reverse them and plug your 1/8" hose if you move/remove/lose a plant, and then reverse it again to turn it back on when you need it again.

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3) Either this was some crazy timing, or maybe I'm having a very strong psychosomatic effect..... OR, this stuff does exactly what it says on the tin.   I was only a quarter of the way into the mug when I noticed that I felt sleepy.  And not "normal sleepy"; but like something was actively dragging my awakeness level down.


That sounds almost scary! If anyone here reads Robin Hobb, "A leaf to sleep, two to dull pain, three for a merciful grave," although that was written for the mythical "carryme" herb/poison.

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