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2001
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: germinating jaboticaba in winter in central Florida
« on: December 21, 2015, 01:58:40 PM »
Quote from: fourseasonsflorida on December 21, 2015, 10:39:52 AM
huertas, are you saying that they start growing well at first indoors, then they die, apparently from lack of humidity and too much direct sun indoors?

Yes, and heat (more than 30º C or so)

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It would seem easy to keep them from getting too much direct sun indoors and here in FL it is still fairly humid year round, even in the house. I don't use the A/C or heat too much at this time.  I plan to keep them well-watered and they are sitting in a larger plastic bin in the kitchen where it stays above 70F but less than 85F.  Seems optimal, but this is my first time germinating jaboticaba, so we'll see what happens.

They will grow fine, the problem will be to acclimatize them when you get them outside in the spring: keep them in the shade and take care about dry winds

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Maybe Adam will chime in about some things to watch for after initial germinating to ensure higher rate of success.

Yes. You need to know they need shade, humidity and a lot of patience

2002
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: germinating jaboticaba in winter in central Florida
« on: December 21, 2015, 08:33:16 AM »
Quote from: fourseasonsflorida on December 21, 2015, 08:28:04 AM
I ended up bringing almost all the pots indoors (except for about 12 that I kept in my shed).  Indoors has averaged about 75F and I got the first sprouts coming up after 21 days since planting.  I think bringing them indoors helped a lot.  I've got a couple red jabo seeds that I have been trying to germinate outside for a couple months now and they have yet to sprout.



I use to do this at my home, they grow very nice at the beginning and then the problems are: humidity and light... they should be humid and direct sun light kills them

2003
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My A.squamosa 1year old fruiting!!
« on: December 20, 2015, 10:05:00 PM »
Quote from: joaave on December 19, 2015, 07:19:58 PM
Itsnot atemoya....its sugarapple huertas :).....how long? mi trees aroun 1m-----other 1,50 mts. I practiced cut the upper part of the tree

I know, I am just saying I have some atemoyas from you. I also grow some squamosas but they are very small for now, and I really dont know where are them :D

2004
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My A.squamosa 1year old fruiting!!
« on: December 19, 2015, 06:18:41 PM »
Quote from: Mike T on December 19, 2015, 05:34:56 PM
It is a prodigy and there seems to be these in many species.

Normally, how long would it take?

Congrats jooave! I have some atemoyas from you

2005
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia dysenterica - Cagaita
« on: December 16, 2015, 10:14:27 AM »
Quote from: luc on December 05, 2015, 07:06:32 PM
Well that's it for me , I give up on Cagaita , after doing well for a long time they all started to decline and are history now .

What is the problem with them and your location?

2006
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: planting macadamia, what is the best method?
« on: December 15, 2015, 03:24:22 PM »
Quote from: Solko on December 13, 2015, 01:24:52 PM
Hola huertasurbanas,

Three years ago I planted 6 or 7 macadamia seedlings of about one and a half years old in the north of Portgal - zone 9a. They were about the same size as yours and i grew them from seed myself indoors. I planted them under Eucalyptus and some other brushes - not in full sun and they have all survived three winters up to now and are growing slowly but steadily. They definitely handled some frost, although not much, but they survived where cherimoya, jaboticaba, strawberry guava seedlings, white sapote seedlings and others were struggling and dying. That may also be because of their exceptional drought tolerance in summer, but i was pretty surprised by their hardiness. So if you can give them some overhead protection, i think it could be worth while to try to plant one of them outside. They love acid soil. And the sooner they can get their roots deep in the ground, the healthier tree you will get.

 Good luck, and I can try to look for seeds here if you like

Hi Solko, thanks for writing! I love your project.

So my main concern would be the sun this summer... not the frosts at my backyard. I will try to plant them as soon as possible, maybe one below a pear tree.

2007
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia? to ID
« on: December 15, 2015, 03:20:52 PM »
I agree Adam, they look very similar to my candolleana (now doing well in the shade), I will get some seeds in some months if the new government let us bring mails from other countries (your wonderful seeds were blocked!, I am so sad, but new mails should do it!)

2008
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: flamboyant (delonix regia) edible seeds?
« on: December 15, 2015, 12:05:26 PM »
Quote from: Raulglezruiz on December 15, 2015, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: huertasurbanas on December 15, 2015, 07:43:59 AM
Quote from: From the sea on December 13, 2015, 09:47:38 PM
My buddy said they taste good roasted.

Cool info, very thanks: so she or he is the only person that actually eat them in the world? hehe, maybe... I am afraid to taste them...
Huertas,  they are call Tabachin or Framboyan,  and are every where here,  they flower in the rainy season and is a spectacular bright deep red color, here nobody uses anything for eating,  the kids love the big, large, strong black pods to play swords like starwars!!,  je, je,  I dont know we have to check out the stage probably......  when they are small or very tender

So, would you be my rata de laboratorio? :-S

2009
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: flamboyant (delonix regia) edible seeds?
« on: December 15, 2015, 07:43:59 AM »
Quote from: From the sea on December 13, 2015, 09:47:38 PM
My buddy said they taste good roasted.

Cool info, very thanks: so she or he is the only person that actually eat them in the world? hehe, maybe... I am afraid to taste them...

2010
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia? to ID
« on: December 14, 2015, 01:52:07 PM »
Quote from: huertasurbanas on December 09, 2015, 05:48:59 PM
She said that she planted 5 seeds and all of them are growing fine, maybe will take some photos to help to id it.








2011
Tropical Fruit Discussion / flamboyant (delonix regia) edible seeds?
« on: December 13, 2015, 09:28:41 PM »
Hi

I got one flamboyant tree and I am thinking about planting it at our backyard, it's beautiful and I read on the net that the pods are edible... but

'The pods are edible and have good potential as a dietary protein source for humans and livestock (Webb et al., 1984; Grant et al., 1995). The leaves (with 39.5% protein) provide nutritious fodder and browse for livestock.' (http://www.hear.org/pier/wra/pacific/delonix_regia_htmlwra.htm)

But, do you ate them or do you know some one that ever ate those seeds?

Or... would it be wise to trust in the HEAR.org site?

There is also some info at:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/4591#b


"they are also edible once boiled. But beware; raw seeds contain glycopeptides (phytohemaglutinin) which causes vomiting, diarrhea, sleeping and tachycardia, so you are warned!"


2012
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: planting macadamia, what is the best method?
« on: December 12, 2015, 07:55:05 PM »
Very thanks to all of you. I will wait till they grow to 7 feets or so into 30L pots, and then will plant them at places were the frosts can be -6C, I hope they will survive.

2013
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Terra Frutis
« on: December 11, 2015, 11:50:39 AM »
Great project, are some of you from south america? We are doing a food forest at Junin, Argentina, it is a social project but maybe will not be a community as yours, just a field of a friend, full of nice fruit trees (and edible leaves, and nuts), trying to live just eating that.... but, we dont know if we could do it (we are vegetarians but today we are not "fruitarians")

Would you plant nuts too?  We have 90 species to share seeds ;-), but fruited just 10 of them

2014
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: planting macadamia, what is the best method?
« on: December 09, 2015, 09:21:04 PM »
Thanks to all of you. Jack: that sounds very promising to me: 19ºC is -7ºC, thats all we can get here in the worst winters.

We have integrifolia, that I read that is not so hardy as tetraphylla

So, how tall and/or at what age would you plant a tree at a place that could be -6º C in winter 2 or 3 times a year? I have a friend that bough 2 trees like ours and would like to plant them in the weekend house in the open fields. As this species is almost impossible to find here at Argentina, we must success

2015
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia? to ID
« on: December 09, 2015, 05:48:59 PM »
She said that she planted 5 seeds and all of them are growing fine, maybe will take some photos to help to id it.

2016
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: planting macadamia, what is the best method?
« on: December 09, 2015, 08:31:54 AM »
They say macadamia is cold hardy to -4.4ºC when adult, and in my backyard the temp will not be lower than -3ºC.

2017
Tropical Fruit Discussion / planting macadamia, what is the best method?
« on: December 09, 2015, 12:11:12 AM »
Hi, I bought 3 macadamia trees, 3 years old and 80cm tall, and I am learning about the species. Our trees are not growing now, and I can see brown tiny  sprouts (maybe burned), as they would like to sprout some weeks ago, but could not do it.








We are entering in summer and the sun here is very hot, we are having a rainy season too, nice.

The seller told me to plant the macadamias below other trees, and give them just 5 or 6 hours of direct sun per day.

Would it be good? Is this the best method?

I bought inga marginata and inga uruguensis to serve as support trees, they should grow taller, but maybe it's a good idea too.

I could plant one of the macadamias bellow a pear tree, 3m tall, it will have a lot of sun light because the pear tree is young,but, in winter, it will be almost full shade. I also could plant another one bellow a plum tree at my parents house, but it would have very few direct sun light (would it grow too slow? never?).

I also could plant another one at the front yard: a lot of hot sun from 2pm to 8pm, but shade on winter.


2018
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria jaboticaba var. Caipirinha
« on: December 08, 2015, 06:36:09 PM »
Now I see it, I hope you can taste them as soon as possible and do a taste report :)


2019
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria jaboticaba var. Caipirinha
« on: December 08, 2015, 05:52:40 PM »
What about the grow habit? I see it very similar to my supposed sabara...

I took some photos of my -supposed- caipirinha: it is recovering from a very hot time into the greenhouse (my error).











It seems that maybe they are 2 or 3 trees in one hole...






2020
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia? to ID
« on: December 08, 2015, 05:34:39 PM »
Quote from: Cassio on December 03, 2015, 09:04:29 AM
Marcos, if the pulp was red, as the young leafs..... Then it could be the ubaia (eugenia patrisii).
But she don´t looks like a pitanga, and the leafs and general aspect also makes her different of Eugenia Matosii... Maybe Eugenia Cuprea?

Do you already identified her?

No, this tree is from a person at a forum, and I never talked again... I will ask

2021
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit diet
« on: December 04, 2015, 10:53:10 PM »
Oh, I hate you!

2022
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit diet
« on: December 04, 2015, 10:58:25 AM »
Quote from: johnb51 on December 04, 2015, 08:55:59 AM
Don't try it.  You'll end up with malnutrition and serious health issues.

maybe unless you eat a lot of nuts, macadamia, almonds, legumes and so on...

2023
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: other Ingas - edible seed?
« on: December 03, 2015, 10:46:54 PM »
Yesterday I got many species, inga uruguensis seems to be edible too, I have to confirm

2024
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: another more jaboticaba to ID from Misiones ...
« on: December 03, 2015, 06:00:25 PM »
Now I see the main difference with paulista: coronata leaves are thinner at the top, I do not know what this is called taxonomically ... they are more elegant, I would say.

2025
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rooting Jaboticaba Cuttings
« on: December 03, 2015, 12:23:52 PM »
Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on December 02, 2015, 06:35:10 PM
You can root all sorts of Myrciaria but I think u gotta have the right pH, and use the right hormones...takes a long time to root I've heard..

I have a friend who has rooted cuttings of all sorts of Eugenia and Myrciaria

I have only done it a few times, and I didn't use hormone..but took a long time root

How many time? 6 months? I am trying to root jambolan, e. pyriformis, p. eugeniaefolia and others...

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