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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba Starcherry
« on: August 12, 2015, 01:10:24 PM »
Carlos: are you shure that the yellow one is eugenia selloi and not just a yellow eugenia uniflora like these ones?








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba Starcherry
« on: August 11, 2015, 11:28:36 PM »
thanks  Adam here an a near town in a park there is pitangatuba and "pitanga hybrida" i will try by cuttings.


Hey, who would plant an unknown pitangatuba in a park of Argentina? that's amazing! could you do some photos of the tree?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba Starcherry
« on: August 11, 2015, 11:24:47 PM »
Pitangatuba is really hard plant. Easy to grow (...) No leaf burning, no "apoplexy", no growth stops. And very drought tolerant.  (...) They tolerate city water. Tolerate heavy wind.
Very diverse species. Here is a picture how much: 3 examples, different leaf shape, different growth rate and different growth habit.

Yes, you´re totally right.  :)
A curious detail: it seems that the seed without the shell, is also edible ...
The only problem is that the fruit quickly oxidizes after being harvested.

That would be great! did the natives from Brazil used to ate the seed? or... how do you know that? I am hoping for many fruit trees in the myrtaceae family to have edible seeds! specially guaviyú and some eugenias...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia rivularis
« on: August 11, 2015, 11:01:05 PM »
as of today, here is the Plinia rivularis in a 15 gal container.



Congrats for your tree, it is beautiful

I see it so similar to my -supposed- myrciaria cauliflora (paulista)! I will take photos now... here they are...








why would they be so similar (similar cold hardiness?)? ok, I know they are all myrciarias, but my other myrciarias have very different look, even the new growth is not red, for instance these others from Paraguay (you said they are similar to peluda do alagoas):


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba Starcherry
« on: August 11, 2015, 04:52:31 PM »
Quote from: Cassio on August 10, 2015, 06:50:46 AM
Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on August 06, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
Supposedly somewhat salt tolerant! Being from the restinga (coastal area in Brazil)....but I have never put them to the test!!

Oh you can do that for sure. They grow in soils composed almost enterelly by sand here in Brasil, flowereing almost all the year (except winter).
The pitangatubas reacts very well to adubation.

I have never heard the word "adubation".

what does it mean?

Adubation means fertilizing.
This is my first post here, but I have been lurking around for a couple of weeks. I'm interested in all myrtle and eugenia varieties that would be able to handle a 9a climate... I live near Geneva in the French Alps, but have a little garden in the north of Portugal

I love to read about all that you are doing!
Cheers,
Solko


Welcome Solko: nice taste :) ,myrtaceae are often easy to grow and very beautiful plants, I grow lots of them and almost all will do it fine in 9a climate, the hardier ones are feijoa, guaviyu, ubajay, surinam cherry, uvaia, sete capotes, cerella, red strawberry guava, araçá da serra, maybe ñangapiré negro, some jaboticabas... and I am missing others... for sure.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID: a rare fruit tree from Misiones
« on: August 11, 2015, 12:44:14 PM »
I agree...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID: a rare fruit tree from Misiones
« on: August 10, 2015, 10:45:37 PM »
see:

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2015/08/10/identificar/

she said (translation from spanish)

"I was given this plant in Misiones, El Dorado. The sr that gave me told me it was called "gift". He said also that it produces a sweet edible fruit that the birds love. Now it is growing something on the tips, they dont seem to be fruits ... but neither leaves.

Someone knows what tree is it?"






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: growing in full sun from seed?
« on: August 10, 2015, 07:52:16 PM »
Thanks both of you. Our summers are mostly wet and it should rain a lot in spring and summer...

I think of feijoas... they seem to like full sun almost sprouted... but I never tried... only tried with 10cm tall feijoas... and tamarillo, guayaba? it should work...

trees from Cerrado, as for instance eugenia pitanga?

any else?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / growing in full sun from seed?
« on: August 10, 2015, 04:00:20 PM »
Hi

what tropical fruit trees could we grow in FULL sun from the start?

guanabana

what else?

a jaboticaba will die...

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2l bottles fit well over mega tubes as well. I've been starting alot of seeds in the 16cm deep megatubes with bottles on top and it keeps the humidity nice and high.





Hi: very nice, what species are them? escarlate what?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia to ID
« on: August 09, 2015, 11:42:19 PM »
oh, now they dont show... dont know what the problem is

here they are:




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia to ID
« on: August 09, 2015, 10:35:24 PM »
Maybe a myrciaria or plinia? another photo:





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia to ID
« on: August 09, 2015, 02:37:06 PM »
Folks: I will try to get seeds, but no response from the person for now.

Miguel: yes, it looks similar to eugenia pitanga, and the bush is 1M tall, so it's small.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia to ID
« on: August 07, 2015, 11:55:11 PM »
and:

"the taste is quite nice, not resinous or astringent. It is slightly sweet and sour. but it is tasty, so much so that fruits are hunted when they mature and not let them fall to the ground ..."

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia to ID
« on: August 07, 2015, 11:28:39 PM »
:-S

he said -translation:

""It is a shrub that is 1 meter tall (equal to Eugenia uniflora  but the leaves are thinner, that's the only difference I see) The fruit is red, round, has a central SEED, SKIN IS BRILLIANT, THIN, porous texture. The taste is acidic and sweet, very nice. ""


So he has an unknown eugenia? maybe... I will ask about the fibrous and resinous taste...



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Eugenia? to ID
« on: August 07, 2015, 02:21:50 PM »
Hi, the tree is not mine, neither the photos:








"ES UN ARBUSTO QUE MIDE 1 METRO DE ALTO (es igual a la eugenia uniflora pero las hojas son más delgadas, esa es la única diferencia del arbusto) LA FRUTA ES ROJA, REDONDA, POSEE UNA SEMILLA CENTRAL, LA PIEL ES BRILLANTE, DELGADA, DE TEXTURA POROSA. EL SABOR ES ÁCIDA Y DULCE, MUY AGRADABLE."






It seems to be similar to eugenia repanda, but I see that the leaves are different...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry of the rio grande dieback
« on: August 06, 2015, 05:53:36 PM »
Hi, my eugenia involucrata plants are 3 years old and gowing all the time, no die back... this post is interesting, anyway... (as I have die back in other myrtaceae, campomanesia xanthocarpa, and now I know there are "misterious" die backs...)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: please id this jaboticaba
« on: August 05, 2015, 09:38:30 PM »
Great, Adam, maybe it's similar to peluda de alagoas... (because of the tiny hairs in the leaves? and growing habit)

today, the seller explained to me that when she travels to Paraguay, she visit different nurseries, and that they dont know the scientific name of the plants, and that she bought from different nurseries... so I think I have at least 2 species from her (5 to 7 years old): this is even more interesting to me, I like and I need variation


https://youtu.be/T9ugkfApckU

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Winter guavas, no fruit fly :-)
« on: August 05, 2015, 04:43:13 PM »
Leooel: I understand or believe that many guava varieties will fruit on winter... maybe it's just that you must remove the fruits from summer and prune it! did you tried?

By the way: today I tasted another fruit: the smell was incredible, but the taste was insipid and/or tart, not as good as the first one, but I think we could improve it adding potasium/banana to the soil and/or watering better or just waiting for the tree to be bigger

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: please id this jaboticaba
« on: August 05, 2015, 02:40:32 PM »
now I remember something about this fruit I tasted: it had a very good smell :-D

I dont know if any jaboticaba smells or not...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: and another jaboticaba to ID
« on: August 04, 2015, 03:45:44 PM »
Well, I dont know what is really the problem with fruit trees... maybe this is a complex matter involving pests and so...

http://www.economiayviveros.com.ar/agosto2011/actualidad_floricola_2.html

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: and another jaboticaba to ID
« on: August 04, 2015, 09:57:17 AM »
Good Adam, I will try to get better photos... it's very difficult here to get plants from Brazil... maybe this person could do it

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / and another jaboticaba to ID
« on: August 04, 2015, 09:42:14 AM »
Hi, this is not mine (and I dont have it near), it is from a woman that received it from a friend from Brazil





maybe m. cauliflora? at least, it's similar to the one I believe it's "paulista" or something like that...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Variegated Jaboticaba?!?!
« on: August 03, 2015, 11:17:57 AM »
Ok Cassio, I am amazed about the people that sells jaboticabas on MercadoLibre do Brazil (there are even hybrid sabara or so... aureana, etc.)... I would like to buy them, but it seems to be impossible to get the plants here in Argentina, so sad!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Winter guavas, no fruit fly :-)
« on: August 03, 2015, 09:59:07 AM »
Hi, they are less sweet than in summer, but I liked them and the fact that the fruit fly is not around here, is great.

Now I think: maybe I should remove all the flowers and/or  fruits from summer and just let the tree produce in winter? This could be a good method. And maybe when the tree gets bigger it could produce sweeter fruits in winter.












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