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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peach tree update + pruning tips?
« on: September 07, 2018, 10:09:08 AM »
Better if this is discussed in the Temperate zone section.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 29, 2018, 11:12:05 PM »
What varieties of avocado are practical for a low land tropical area with the average temperature of 27 degrees Centigrade with high humidity and 3780 mm of rain and a mild winter?
I am trying to help a Horticulture Scientist struggling in avocado growing in such areas. {But it grows well in nearby high elevation ( 1500 meters and above ) areas with low winter temperatures.}
 I was unable to find much of a participation from low land tropical areas. Any suggestion or comments from avocado growers in such tropical areas are very well appreciated. Thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mabungo - Saba comorensis
« on: August 27, 2018, 11:48:18 AM »
Sorry for my misreading. After seeing your comment I put on my reading glasses and viewed carefully! Absence of remnants of the sepals and petals attached to the top of the fruit noted. It is NOT a Diospyros. Thanks for correcting me. Triphal

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mabungo - Saba comorensis
« on: August 27, 2018, 09:26:53 AM »
Probably African Ebony, a Diospyros variety?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: #Kerala floods 2018
« on: August 20, 2018, 08:07:31 PM »
Disheartened and sorry to see this devastation by the monsoon rains in Kerala and Karnataka. My condolences and sympathy to all those affected by this calamity.
The Western Ghats are one of the 8 hot spots of the biologica diversity in the UNESCO World Heritage list. It spreads from Gujarat into Maharashtra, Goa, Karnataka, Kerala and Tamilnad. Those mountains are millions of years older than the Himalayas!
After the recommendation of the UNESCO for preservation of this mountainous area Indian Government formed the Western Ghats Experts Ecology Panel (WGEEP) headed by a well known ecologist Mr Madhav Gadgil from Indian Institution Of Science. Zoning those areas into 3 zones. Zone 1 area where no plantation and agricultural activities done. The main devastated areas are in Zone 1 as stated in the report.
I was visiting India when they released this report 7 years ago. Subsequently some of the farmers backed up by the Kerala Christian Churches who were the main supporters of the Kerala Congress Party opposed the committee report with (violent) street protests demanding not to ban on Agriculture and Plantation activities in Zone1.
 The Kerala STATE UDF and LDF governments with the Idukki and Thamarassery Bishops influencing them acted against the recommendation of the WGEEP report. Central UPA Congress Party Government gave in. The Environmental Central Minister was replaced and the newly appointed minister Mr. Moily announced on 15th January 2014 that each state bordering the Western Ghats should appoint their own Commission in this matter!  Same year UPA lost the general elections.
DO NOT BLAME NATURE ONLY. This calamity could have been avoided if man has respected the ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE ZONES, Zone 1 as recommended by the WGEEP.  *Please look for WGEEP in the net if you have any questions what I outlined above and I am sure you would find it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Members here from Goa India
« on: July 14, 2018, 09:48:00 PM »
During the first 25 years of my life in the West Coast of India South of Goa I have most likely tasted over thousand (Yes. 1000) different varieties of non-grafted so called 'wild' mangoes and never cared much for any or some top grafted varieties including 'Benet Alfanso' / AKA 'appus'. We had a family fruit orchard growing varieties of Mangoes, Cashew, Jack Fruits and most other common Indian and other tropical fruits in about 16 acres of land and it was not a business venture!
 5 acres of over forty (40) grafted varieties of mangoes specially obtained from Agriculture Colleges of 1. Bangalore in Mysore,  2. Agricultural Colleges in Coimbatore and Northern part of Andhra of Madras Province, 3. Poona Agricultural College of Bombay Province. We also had so many varieties of 'wild mangoes' each tree having it's unique quality which is hard to describe. Most of the home gardens had their own unique mangoes. This is true of the whole Deccan Plateau, South of the Vindhya Mountains.
Frankly I chuckle when reading about the 'greatness' of most (all!) of the mangoes mentioned in the TFF. It is hard to perceive what I am talking about.

PM sent. Good luck. Triphal

Thank you Doctor Sir for your kind words.
Just talked to my nephew. They had 'ekpani' (Centella asiatica) chutney, 'durvankur' (Cynodon dactylon / Burmuda grass) rasam and 'taikilo' ( Cassia tora) bajias and among others for lunch today. Will send you the recipe. Triphal

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Kokum seeds...
« on: June 17, 2018, 02:45:43 PM »
Sir. Is this a new cultivar of sweet variety of kokum than the common (sour) one? In tamarind there are two distinct varieties. A common sour variety and a NE Thai sweet variety.
Please note that all kokums I tasted had some sweetness just like as in all those tasted sour tamarinds. I am interested in some sweet kokum seeds for a friend in South Konkan Maharashtra. Thank you.

To Luketrollope. Thank you for your timely comment. Please let me inform you that even I am in Zone 6B I have been spending since over 55 years twice a year 6 to 12 weeks in India between 13 and 14 degrees N and between 74 and 75 degrees E. We have been growing nutmegs also. Since I have retired I am helping other Nurseries and home owners, promoting ( Totally Non Commercial ) rare but useful low land tropical fruit trees from around the world.
My first known experience of nutmeg is probably 75 years ago. To me and us around that area this fruit is bland. That was what I meant. I am sorry for the 'tone', which was unfortunate.
 You can make jam , syrup, drinks or candies of any insipid non poisonous fruits. Just blend it and add lime or lemon or orange or tamarind or pineapple juice + some sweet component of cane or beet sugar or molasses or sorghum or maple syrup + optional cardamom powder. You can make it into an edible substance in less than an hour of cooking! Make ice cream with all sorts of milks and yogurts.
I have never seen any wild life including squirrels, bats nor mice relishing those yellow fruits. Neither those ants. But the cuckoo relishes the mace and the seed. I am now spending at least 4 months in an year at that zone of our over 200 years old ancestral home and farm. Sorry for my different 'wave length'. Thanks for your tip on that 'Coke' ingredient.

 Knowing nutmeg trees and fruits (unpalatable) for over half a century since my childhood days in low land Tropics of Southern India this information about 'nutmeg' appears to be misleading and unacceptable.
Both the nutmeg seeds and the encircled red mace are valued as a spice and used in some Ayurvedic medicines. I request someone to please comment on this topic of nutmeg. Thanks.

Agree with you Mike. Probably it was an error.  Triphal

Just received in India well packed 20 seeds of Yellow Jaboticaba. 10 of them sprouted. Have already planted all 20 of them in an apt. medium tray in a nursery. Hoping others to germinate. Thank you very much.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Is Eating My Papayas?
« on: November 19, 2017, 10:10:33 AM »
Age old method in India. For rat problem on coconut trees a thin 1' to 1 1/2' long aluminum sheet is wrapped around the trees 6' to 8' above the ground. This can be applied to control squirrel also. Make sure there are no nearby tree branches or building structures for them to jump on those trees.This method can be used for arecanut and papaya trees.

I think some Syzygiums will be termed as 'pests'. Please check out from USDA California offices. Triphal

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: pulasan
« on: October 29, 2017, 07:58:40 PM »
Thanks. Please note that I am late in thanking you. Triphal

California Rare Fruit Growers association (of Southern California) is the BEST place for you to get what you want. A membership may land you in an appropriate (sour type) well rooted plant for a 'song'! Please try to browse their net. Triphal

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: First and second year pawpaws
« on: September 22, 2017, 05:17:28 PM »
Pawpaw trees love easy water access. That's why they have long tap roots and so you find them wild on the banks of the rivers. Since we have our own well water and live about 3 miles interior of the river banks I have been watering pawpaws more often than Kiwi, Chinese jujube, Persimmon and others when we are in 6b zone. Good organic mulch and planting trees very close will help to conserve water for the surface roots and pollination.   Triphal

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PAW PAW
« on: September 20, 2017, 01:10:20 PM »
Thank you 'Mangaba' for helping me to put these two of my yesterday's picks of pawpaws from the planted three home garden trees. I will wait for the weekend to publish more pics with the help of my daughter. Thanks again.  Triphal

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread
« on: September 19, 2017, 05:59:49 PM »
Correction of my previous comment.  I am unable to send the PICTURES I have taken of the 3 pawpaw plants loaded with fruits and the harvested fruits. Triphal

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread
« on: September 19, 2017, 03:47:54 PM »
I have harvested over five hundred (500) pawpaws so far out of my three (3) trees.  Unfortunately I am unable to send it to other than the email addresses through my PC, Galaxy tablet and iphone! I wish some TFF member would be able to publish them on the TFF. If interested send me a pm. Triphal

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread
« on: September 16, 2017, 07:37:46 AM »
Our 3 planted trees already yielded over 200 fruits this year. There are 200 more to ripen and fall. Just picked about 25 fallen fruits in the morning. Please note that I have pruned the tree with fruits in late spring.Fruits are of good quality orange colored and sweet.


Found wild in the woods of the Coastal Karnataka. Food for the wildlife. Photo taken about 2 weeks ago.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: pulasan
« on: September 06, 2017, 08:30:41 AM »
From which part of India? What variety of pulasan grafted? How old is the plant and it's size? What is the price and how many plants  available? Shipping method and cost of shipping to Karnataka? Thanks. A photograph of the plant along with it's container is apt. Thanks.

When did you start selling these seeds?  It takes awhile for many varieties of Garcinia seeds to fruit in in 7 to 10 years.

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