Author Topic: Grimal is not Plinia spiritosantensis, most likely "Peluda-de-alagoas" (Read 28940 times)

ScottR · « **Reply #50 on:** December 27, 2015, 11:58:14 AM »

Adam, I was referring to your New seedling M. spirit-sanctensis

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #51 on:** January 08, 2016, 08:50:36 PM »

reading in the new book "Frutas no Brasil", it states that this is one of the better tasting varieties out there!

it's nice to know this one isn't hard to get established!

I guess we are about 6-7yr away from getting blooms...the trees are already about 1yr old.

palologrower · « **Reply #52 on:** June 30, 2016, 02:09:12 PM »

one year since getting this seedling from Adam. It's a nice tree. I couldn't bring myself to trimming it. May just let nature take its course and shape itself as it see fit. Very bonsai'ish now. Ha ha ha.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #53 on:** June 30, 2016, 02:58:16 PM »

Quote from: palologrower on June 30, 2016, 02:09:12 PM

one year since getting this seedling from Adam. It's a nice tree. I couldn't bring myself to trimming it. May just let nature take its course and shape itself as it see fit. Very bonsai'ish now. Ha ha ha.

that one is a rainforest plum! looking good!

palologrower · « **Reply #54 on:** June 30, 2016, 03:43:04 PM »

what?!?!?! this one was labeled spirit santensis when I got it from you!

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #55 on:** June 30, 2016, 05:25:25 PM »

Quote from: palologrower on June 30, 2016, 03:43:04 PM

what?!?!?! this one was labeled spirit santensis when I got it from you!

maybe it somehow got mislabeled? me or you? I wonder if you have the real plinia spiritosantensis floating around in your collection?

it does look superficially like rainforest plum...or even more like Plinia aureana, or Plinia grandifolia...

let me know if you can't track it down....

palologrower · « **Reply #56 on:** June 30, 2016, 06:12:04 PM »

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on June 30, 2016, 05:25:25 PM

Quote from: palologrower on June 30, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
what?!?!?! this one was labeled spirit santensis when I got it from you!

maybe it somehow got mislabeled? me or you? I wonder if you have the real plinia spiritosantensis floating around in your collection?

it does look superficially like rainforest plum...or even more like Plinia aureana, or Plinia grandifolia...

let me know if you can't track it down....

when I get home in a bit i'll take better pics. but ever since I got it from you last summer, I made sure I took extra care of it since it was the special spirit santensis. i'll track down the other plants I got from you from that order also.

palologrower · « **Reply #57 on:** June 30, 2016, 07:56:16 PM »

The four pics are:
Close up above of the plant in question
Cambuca
Camucamu... Yeah it looks bad I know...
And two pics of rainforest plum I got from u.. One of them is from another order.

I assumed the spirito santensis was the first one the whole time.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #58 on:** June 30, 2016, 08:36:40 PM »

Bottom pic, plant on right! That is your man! Mr spiritosantensis

palologrower · « **Reply #59 on:** June 30, 2016, 08:40:17 PM »

Then my spirito santensis is scrawny but my rainforest plum looks awesome!

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #60 on:** July 01, 2016, 10:06:20 AM »

Quote from: palologrower on June 30, 2016, 08:40:17 PM

Then my spirito santensis is scrawny but my rainforest plum looks awesome!

Give the spiritosantensis a slightly bigger pot...(not sure what soil you're using, but I wonder if your native soil would be better?).

And give it some fertilizer....

Then it should perk up...

It can take full sun too...

palologrower · « **Reply #61 on:** July 01, 2016, 02:20:54 PM »

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on July 01, 2016, 10:06:20 AM

Quote from: palologrower on June 30, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
Then my spirito santensis is scrawny but my rainforest plum looks awesome!

Give the spiritosantensis a slightly bigger pot...(not sure what soil you're using, but I wonder if your native soil would be better?).

And give it some fertilizer....

Then it should perk up...

It can take full sun too...

native soil...ha ha ha. all clay!

i'll take the advice and do it this wknd!

thanks adam! is it a fast(er) grower than regular jaboticabas?

Mike T · « **Reply #62 on:** July 01, 2016, 04:45:46 PM »

My large leafed jab must be neither as the seedlings don't look like the seedlings of peluda de alagoes that I have.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #63 on:** July 01, 2016, 04:57:38 PM »

All clay? Sounds perfect ! Let me know how it works

Quote from: palologrower on July 01, 2016, 02:20:54 PM

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on July 01, 2016, 10:06:20 AM
Quote from: palologrower on June 30, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
Then my spirito santensis is scrawny but my rainforest plum looks awesome!

Give the spiritosantensis a slightly bigger pot...(not sure what soil you're using, but I wonder if your native soil would be better?).

And give it some fertilizer....

Then it should perk up...

It can take full sun too...

native soil...ha ha ha. all clay!

i'll take the advice and do it this wknd!

thanks adam! is it a fast(er) grower than regular jaboticabas?

palologrower · « **Reply #64 on:** July 01, 2016, 07:15:08 PM »

Ha! definitely staying in a pot for a while till I get it big enough and then amend the hell out of the clay first. So we'll compare notes in 10 years! Ha ha ha

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #65 on:** July 01, 2016, 07:16:12 PM »

Quote from: palologrower on July 01, 2016, 07:15:08 PM

Ha! definitely staying in a pot for a while till I get it big enough and then amend the hell out of the clay first. So we'll compare notes in 10 years! Ha ha ha

seems like most of the jabuticabas love that red/clay type of soil.

palologrower · « **Reply #66 on:** July 01, 2016, 10:16:47 PM »

I don't know my soils/clay very much. but it's definitely not red and the bane of my existence.

arvind · « **Reply #67 on:** January 16, 2017, 09:04:54 PM »

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on December 23, 2015, 05:29:45 PM

I'm starting to ship seedlings of this rare species (Myrciaria spirito-sanctensis)! It's been a joy to grow so far, much easier than most of the other rare species. The foliage is beautiful too! I'm excited to taste fruits eventually !!

Is the the myrciaria spirito sanctensis susceptible to rust like the grimal ? My area have high rainfall.If it does well in areas with high rainfall i would like to purchase seedling from you

Mike T · « **Reply #68 on:** January 17, 2017, 03:53:44 AM »

Mine is loaded with big fruit right now.

shot · « **Reply #69 on:** January 17, 2017, 09:24:24 AM »

does any have issues with rust on grimals .I love good ripe grimal fruit

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #70 on:** January 17, 2017, 01:36:37 PM »

Quote from: arvind on January 16, 2017, 09:04:54 PM

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on December 23, 2015, 05:29:45 PM
I'm starting to ship seedlings of this rare species (Myrciaria spirito-sanctensis)! It's been a joy to grow so far, much easier than most of the other rare species. The foliage is beautiful too! I'm excited to taste fruits eventually !!
Is the the myrciaria spirito sanctensis susceptible to rust like the grimal ? My area have high rainfall.If it does well in areas with high rainfall i would like to purchase seedling from you

Grimal (Peluda de Alagoas) has issues with rust for sure, on fruit and foliage, but in my experience has been purely cosmetic.

Plinia spiritosantensis does not exhibit the same symptoms...it is extremely rugged, in terms of coping with high temps, and humidity (and even mineral content in water).

shot · « **Reply #71 on:** January 17, 2017, 06:54:03 PM »

so humid out on this island were all getting fungus including on me . but i planted grimal in the back near forest no air circulation so lots of rust ,but exotics love that spot

Mike T · « **Reply #72 on:** January 18, 2017, 08:29:14 AM »

My one is flourishing and pumping out big fruit like a machine.They are booming around here also in places that had over 40 inches of rain last week with new flushes of growth. There has not a zephyr, night temps are not falling below 80f and the day temps climb through the 90s. The air is like syrup and even if your are like a starfish under the fan on full you are in a pool of sweat. The humidity has been at saturation level for weeks now but the grimal has welcomed summer with new foliage and its best fruiting ever. Heat and humidity as well as heavy rain is something they enjoy.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #73 on:** January 18, 2017, 05:43:51 PM »

Quote from: Mike T on January 18, 2017, 08:29:14 AM

My one is flourishing and pumping out big fruit like a machine.They are booming around here also in places that had over 40 inches of rain last week with new flushes of growth. There has not a zephyr, night temps are not falling below 80f and the day temps climb through the 90s. The air is like syrup and even if your are like a starfish under the fan on full you are in a pool of sweat. The humidity has been at saturation level for weeks now but the grimal has welcomed summer with new foliage and its best fruiting ever. Heat and humidity as well as heavy rain is something they enjoy.

Grimal is more susceptible to rust than spiritosantensis...conditions that promote rust are, hot and humid...Grimal is one of most sensitive varieties in my experience, showing rust on foliage and fruits with heavy rains in FL.

arvind · « **Reply #74 on:** January 18, 2017, 08:24:06 PM »

Grimal is native to alagoas right? From my search on google using weatherbase and climate data org some cities even near the coastal areas have a 4 to 5 months dry season with annual rainfal of 1500mm on average.

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Author Topic: Grimal is not Plinia spiritosantensis, most likely "Peluda-de-alagoas" (Read 28940 times)