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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2018, 10:11:44 AM »
For conventional, you absolutely cannot go wrong with Osmocote 15-9-12 (Everris).  Only having to apply twice a year is really nice.  I used the 8-9 month slow release and it worked great.

I'm still trying to find an OMRI slow release product with no luck.
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2018, 10:21:07 AM »
I got a bag of this osmocote pro.  85$ for 50lbs 19-5-8

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/osmocote-pro-19-5-8-50-bag-8-9-month/fertilizers

Dont remember what shipping cost but dont remember it being excessive.

They also have osmocote classic, osmote plus, etc in different release rates.

I like the pro stuff better than the 8lb osmocote plus little balls on amazon.
Greenhousemegastore 19-5-8 looks like a good price as to my zip only $9.99 shipping + $85 approximately = $95 for home delivery 50lb. Have you ordered often from this company and any shipping problems yet?

Also it's claimed to be a second generation (So is everything else Osmocote 1st generation and if so what's really the difference in longevity etc.)  (• For use on nursery stock, foliage and landscapes.
• 2nd Generation Osmocote® Pro contains
Osmocote® N-P-K blended with micronutrients
and other fertilizer technologies).......I guess that means a longer slower release potential... but not really sure.

It's interesting that I keep finding a new formulation of Osmocote on many different selling sites with none of the sites clearly listing all of the available osmocote products to purchase on their website... Thus very confusing and hard to evaluate desired choices.

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/category/s?keyword=osmocote
http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/osmocote-pro-19-5-8-50-bag-8-9-month/
http://cdn.greenhousemegastore.com/downloads/pdf/osmocote-pro-19-5-8-product-sheet.pdf?linkingParam=%7B%22__ctmid%22%3A%225ab24bbe001caefb9d9c2d25%22%2C%22__roit%22%3A%220%22%2C%22_ga%22%3A%22GA1.2.114142024.1521634240%22%2C%22_gid%22%3A%22GA1.2.923462961.1521634240%22%2C%22__roiNonDirect%22%3A%22true%22%2C%22_gat%22%3A%221%22%2C%22_gat_t3%22%3A%221%22%2C%22_gat_t4%22%3A%221%22%7D
http://www.osmocotegarden.com/
https://www.scottsaustralia.com.au/scotts-brands/osmocote/osmocote-plus-trace-elements-controlled-release-plant-food/
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=osmocote+slow+release+fertilizer&sprefix=osmocote%2Caps%2C161&crid=3GR3S6XO4QFZB
https://www.plantersplace.com/osmocote-plant-food/




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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2018, 10:34:32 AM »
Yes I ordered several times and built much of my GH from GH mega store.

No issues.

This stuff is not the same physical fertilizer shape as the osmocote plus on amazon.  The amazon stuff is little yellow balls that never disolve.  They hollow out but always remain, at least on top of soil.

The pro stuff is small granuals and a few different sizes and colors.  Its not all packed into one ball like the plus stuff.

GH megastore has other osmocote stuff also, they have the 15 9 12 osmocote plus but I have not tried it to see if its the same stuff as amazon. 

What I really want is time release 10 5 20 for my bananas.  If anyone knows a high potassium time release let me know.
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2018, 10:41:02 AM »
Thanks for the info spaugh, it looks like wait a few months & they may have your desired combo if not already present on another website... quite a variety...

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/osmocote-plus-15-9-12-fertilizer/fertilizers

This page gives you a choice of 4 different delay choices of 15-9-12 using the new 3rd generation technology (if needed)...

3-4 Month MSDS (PDF), 3-4 Month Info Sheet (PDF)

5-6 Month MSDS (PDF), 5-6 Month Info Sheet (PDF)

8-9 Month MSDS (PDF), 8-9 Month Info Sheet (PDF)

12-14 month listed on page
higher prices however...   
$110.00 — 12-14 Month Release, 50# Bag
$119.00 — 3-4 Month Release, 50# Bag
$110.00 — 5-6 Month Release, 50# Bag
$132.00 — 8-9 Month Release, 50# Bag

Funny, but it almost sounds like the computer chip manufactureres.... 1st generation, 2nd generation, 3rd generation, etc. etc. etc. I don't know what generation is in my computer I'm currently typing on .... but it works.  ;)
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2018, 10:58:31 AM »
I see it says 3rd gen contains stuff in each prill.  This is probably the yellow balls.  Just because its 3rd gen and all in one ball doesnt mean its better necessarily.  Could be a cost savings for osmocote.  But I really have no clue.

I just dont like how the prills dump their load and leave an empty shell.  It gives you a false indication that the fertilizer is still present.

I havent used the PRO stuff long enough to say if its much better in this regard but I think it may be.  I will look closer at it soon.  I need to get out and fertilize some potted plants.

I am propogating a lot of trees in a GH to use as stock for my grove and like being able to mix this stuff in a 5gal pot and forget about it.  By the time its spent, the trees are ready to plant out in the earth.

Also for what its worth, the recommended amounts are less for the PRO stuff.  I have measured it out using a scale using their recommended rates and the physical volume of fertilizer required with the pro stuff seems much less than the osmocote plus balls.  I belive the plus stuff is recommended to put 1 scoop per gallon of dirt.  The PRO stuff they list out by weight.  And it ends up only being 2 scoops for 5 gallons of dirt based on their chart. 

By the way, where did you see that they are working on high K time release?
Brad Spaugh

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2018, 11:32:09 AM »
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2018, 11:38:40 AM »
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2018, 10:50:01 PM »
Thanks for all the info. I ve a better picture now
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2018, 07:33:33 AM »
By the way, where did you see that they are working on high K time release?

I keep potassium sulfate handy for a K hit.

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2018, 05:41:33 PM »
Yes I ordered several times and built much of my GH from GH mega store.

No issues.

This stuff is not the same physical fertilizer shape as the osmocote plus on amazon.  The amazon stuff is little yellow balls that never disolve.  They hollow out but always remain, at least on top of soil.

The pro stuff is small granuals and a few different sizes and colors.  Its not all packed into one ball like the plus stuff.
Just go down to your local Poultry ranch, like Hilliker’s in Lakeside and get some manure for your bananas, you’ll have great results.

GH megastore has other osmocote stuff also, they have the 15 9 12 osmocote plus but I have not tried it to see if its the same stuff as amazon. 

What I really want is time release 10 5 20 for my bananas.  If anyone knows a high potassium time release let me know.

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2018, 11:08:34 AM »
Just a FYI.... The yo yo amazon price matching has affected osmocote plus pricing...

(It may change again in a few minutes/hours/days to another lower price as most have noticed with amazon price matching rapidly one way & then the other)...

Osmocote Plus Outdoor and Indoor Smart-Release Plant Food, 8-Pound (Plant Fertilizer)  has increased from $14.86 to $19.87
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTDGMHC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2018, 10:22:27 AM »
Just a FYI.... The yo yo amazon price matching has affected osmocote plus pricing...

(It may change again in a few minutes/hours/days to another lower price as most have noticed with amazon price matching rapidly one way & then the other)...

Osmocote Plus Outdoor and Indoor Smart-Release Plant Food, 8-Pound (Plant Fertilizer)  has increased from $14.86 to $19.87
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTDGMHC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

$22 now.   Glad I got two when it was $14.  Amazon prices can rock all over the place even from one hour to the next.

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2018, 10:56:03 AM »
Just a FYI.... The yo yo amazon price matching has affected osmocote plus pricing...

(It may change again in a few minutes/hours/days to another lower price as most have noticed with amazon price matching rapidly one way & then the other)...

Osmocote Plus Outdoor and Indoor Smart-Release Plant Food, 8-Pound (Plant Fertilizer)  has increased from $14.86 to $19.87
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTDGMHC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

$22 now.   Glad I got two when it was $14.  Amazon prices can rock all over the place even from one hour to the next.

I bought this a few weeks ago as well at $14.
(Download the chrome extension "the camelizer", it gives you histographs of the prices for Amazon items.)

I also bought Espoma RT8 8-Pound Rose-Tone Plant Food last week because it was $6 for an 8lb pound.
https://www.amazon.com/Espoma-RT8-8-Pound-Rose-Tone-Plant/dp/B001H1GUIW/ref=pd_sim_86_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001H1GUIW&pd_rd_r=RF08J1549BWFBTQQCMRK&pd_rd_w=P8z59&pd_rd_wg=sxxk6&psc=1&refRID=RF08J1549BWFBTQQCMRK

Heard good things about the brand, I actually thought it was some type of potting soil.
Suppose to be slow release so I'm just trying it on my potted plants and raised bed.
The potassium level is not where I'd like it to be but I'll just supplement with 0-0-22 if needed.

Anybody knows a decent minor mix?
Southern Ag has one but i never heard of anyone using it

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2018, 11:51:00 AM »
That's funny. I bought 2 bags myself at the 14 mark 2 weeks ago. I think they must have some sort of algorithm to increase price based on demand. Many of the folks reading this thread must have kicked the pricing algorithm into high demand mode. It was an awesome price at 14 bux.

As for minor element mixes, Helena's 0-0-6 is the best of any I've found. It's around $30 per 50 pound bag, but has an awesome micros package, with something like 14% iron.
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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2018, 09:42:09 PM »
That's funny. I bought 2 bags myself at the 14 mark 2 weeks ago. I think they must have some sort of algorithm to increase price based on demand. Many of the folks reading this thread must have kicked the pricing algorithm into high demand mode. It was an awesome price at 14 bux.

As for minor element mixes, Helena's 0-0-6 is the best of any I've found. It's around $30 per 50 pound bag, but has an awesome micros package, with something like 14% iron.

Do you know of any OMRI minor element granule?
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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2018, 10:20:32 PM »
I don't. You'd probably have to make your own. 7springs sells various Tiger granules, and I suppose you could mix them together (eg, http://www.7springsfarm.com/iron-22-tiger-micronutrient-granular-50-lb/ ).

There's no real practical difference between the OMRI listed micronutrients and conventional -- other than how much it costs. Unless you have a market for organic products, save yourself the $$ and use conventional.

That's funny. I bought 2 bags myself at the 14 mark 2 weeks ago. I think they must have some sort of algorithm to increase price based on demand. Many of the folks reading this thread must have kicked the pricing algorithm into high demand mode. It was an awesome price at 14 bux.

As for minor element mixes, Helena's 0-0-6 is the best of any I've found. It's around $30 per 50 pound bag, but has an awesome micros package, with something like 14% iron.

Do you know of any OMRI minor element granule?
Jeff  :-)

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« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2018, 07:47:51 AM »
Anybody knows a decent minor mix?
Southern Ag has one but i never heard of anyone using it

Keyplex 350DP is amazing both as a foliar spray and soil drench.  You'll need to contact a rep.

S.T.E.M. is also good.

Never had any luck with S. Ag.  Many claim they have.

 

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